And what about the estimated 200,000 women each year who use guns to DEFEND themselves from sexual assault? What do you tell them when you take their guns away? Call the cops and hope they catch the guy after the fact?

Quote from: Alex Europa on December 29, 2010, 11:14:08 PM

And what about the estimated 200,000 women each year who use guns to DEFEND themselves from sexual assault? What do you tell them when you take their guns away? Call the cops and hope they catch the guy after the fact?

DH,

     Stop deflecting. It's a common tactic used by criminals during an interrogation to avoid facing the truth. Comment on the quote above. I would be interested to hear your take on it.

By the way, to further contrast your previous point that Hawaii a safe place to live without CCW, the number of Forcible Rapes in Hawaii has jumped up pretty significantly in the last 3 years-to the fourth highest amount in the last 40 years.(1)  As a LEO in the military, I sincerely sympathize with the families of those Officers who died at the hands of murders, let's be honest, you're talking about 9 people over the course of 3 years across the entire country. What about the 1,081 women JUST IN HAWAII who were forcibly raped during that same time period? Maybe some of those women would have had a chance of defending THEMSELVES (instead of Hawaii) had their right to bear arms been restored. By the way, they aren't allowed to carry a taser or baton for their protection either. How the anti-2a crowd does not realize that they are COMPLICT in the violent acts committed against those women is beyond me.

If you truly cared about "Defending Hawaii," then you would open your eyes and look at what problems the citizens of the state of Hawaii are currently facing and RATIONALLY determine if returning 2nd Amendment rights to The People would mitigate them. Or do you have such little faith in your fellow Hawaiians that you don't trust them with a gun?

- Alex

Reference:
(1) http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/hicrime.htm

Alex,  Minus the 10-20 2A Cult Members no one else in Hawaii really wants CCW. 

I will be at HPD Firearms in about an hour if any of you want to have a talk about this!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 30, 2010, 08:35:24 AM

Alex,  Minus the 10-20 2A Cult Members no one else in Hawaii really wants CCW. 

Dunno why you somehow think you have the authority to speak for the entire state. You can't even support your own argument, let alone anybody else's. 

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 30, 2010, 08:35:24 AM

I will be at HPD Firearms in about an hour if any of you want to have a talk about this!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I've figured out why you're so cranky about all this CCW business.  You're the registrar lady who has to do all the firearms paperwork down at the police station, aren't you?  More permits means more work for you, which is why you're so blatantly against CCW.  I'll be sure to say hello next time I'm registering a gun. 

.  You and your shithead attitude is what makes trolls like me against CCW. 

 

Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited.

It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose:

For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. 

KEEP ON FIGHTING CULT I MEAN 2A MEMBERS AND HAWAII WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill,

or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings,

DH, if you are going to repeat quotes, please cite them. If you continue to post these direct quotations without citation or without adding additional material or comments, you will be banned.

Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose:  For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues.  KEEP ON FIGHTING CULT I MEAN 2A MEMBERS AND HAWAII WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons

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