22lr for home defense? (Read 59180 times)

dirsh

22lr for home defense?
« on: July 26, 2013, 11:09:50 AM »
I've been thinking of having 22lr as home defense guns. Low recoil, low noise easy manuerverability makes it seem like a good choice. Actually low noise is my biggest concern since we can't have suppressors here. I don't want go deaf trying to defend  my life
Did some quick googling and came up on this

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/06/foghorn/ask-foghorn-22l-for-self-defense/
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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 11:19:47 AM »
I keep my LCR .22 for a backup HD gun
my primary is my .45 or .357

I would want something with deadly potential for HD
i mean, i wouldn't want to bring a knife to a gun fight.  so to speak.
if my life or the lives of my family are in danger, i want something that has ample knock down power.

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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 11:43:49 AM »
Any gun is better than no gun.

I would just keep a pair of these next to your HD gun.
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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 12:21:29 PM »
I use .22 easy to shoot for anyone. ..low recoil...easy follow up shots. I can prob shoot off 10rnds very accurate in short period.  .22 at close range can be lethal

GZire

Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2013, 12:58:20 PM »
Any gun is better than no gun.

I would just keep a pair of these next to your HD gun.

True, but given the choice dirsh may be better off looking for something along the lines of a usc, etc.  Carbine in a handgun caliber with the capacity beyond what is allowed for handguns.

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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 12:59:20 PM »
I use .22 easy to shoot for anyone. ..low recoil...easy follow up shots. I can prob shoot off 10rnds very accurate in short period.  .22 at close range can be lethal


True, but some 22lr semi autos are very finicky.  Shoot with my old Mosquito I'd probably have to shoot 1 round then throw the pistol because it's not working after that.

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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 12:59:57 PM »
Times like this make you wish the Ruger charger with BX-25 wasn't on the no go list.
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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 01:47:56 PM »
If noise is your biggest concern, I wouldn't worry about it.  First, I really wouldn't recommend a less-effective lifesaving tool; defending your life is much more important than protecting your hearing.  Second, a few gunshots aren't going to be that big of a deal.  Some folks seem to be convinced that firing a gun indoors without hearing protection will leave you looking like a bystander at the bombing of a discotheque, with blood running out your ears and instant stone deafness.  I've fired quite a few guns over the years without the benefit of hearing protection, such as when hunting, and my annual audiograms keep coming back satisfactory.  If the internet rumors about hearing loss had merit, everyone who was ever a bit slow getting their earmuffs back on after a cease-fire at the range would be learning American Sign Language right now.
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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2013, 02:02:52 PM »
Hope ur a crack shot.  Only wounding the perp may be grounds for a lawsuit in Hawaii.....

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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2013, 03:00:27 PM »
What about a PS90 or UZI :)   Oh yeah, stupid carbine barrel.  Nevermind.

Just use whatever pistol you got.  I don't think using a .22 will "save" your hearing any more or less.  Read about scopes failing even due to sharper report/shock with the .22 round but I don't understand that.  Also some people wrote in their AAR they don't even recall hearing their guns firing.  fwiw we keep ear pro bedside as well. 
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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2013, 03:57:22 PM »
If noise is your biggest concern, I wouldn't worry about it.  First, I really wouldn't recommend a less-effective lifesaving tool; defending your life is much more important than protecting your hearing.  Second, a few gunshots aren't going to be that big of a deal.  Some folks seem to be convinced that firing a gun indoors without hearing protection will leave you looking like a bystander at the bombing of a discotheque, with blood running out your ears and instant stone deafness.  I've fired quite a few guns over the years without the benefit of hearing protection, such as when hunting, and my annual audiograms keep coming back satisfactory.  If the internet rumors about hearing loss had merit, everyone who was ever a bit slow getting their earmuffs back on after a cease-fire at the range would be learning American Sign Language right now.

Think Cougar is right on this one. Though the crack of a rifle or handgun can be unpleasant, it probably does little to no damage at all to your hearing unless you like to use the side of your head as a platform to steady your aim. Prolonged exposure to noise is the real killer.

Though "stopping power" has been and still is a subject of debate, you would probably be better off using something more powerful than a 22 lr if you're going to pull the trigger to stop someone from attacking you. Either way, once you pull the trigger, you've committed yourself to being run through the legal system gauntlet. You may as well using something that stands a greater chance of creating a wound channel that will result in the cessation of forward movement by your attacker. Not saying a 22 lr can't do that. Just saying that shot placement is more critical as Speedtek mentioned with a 22 lr than with a .40 or even a 9 mm.
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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2013, 04:16:01 PM »
I think any round has the capability to do damage. I still remember getting hit with a .25 cal from a pocket pistol. It went through a window, into my right arm and fractured my right humerus. Luckily it stayed imbedded in my bone and not break into tiny bits.. 22lr got some spice behind it for a tiny caliber but it does the job! Unless you shooting somebody like Yokozuna or  konishiki then I advise you to take a headshot...

GZire

Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2013, 04:44:42 PM »
What about a PS90 or UZI :)   Oh yeah, stupid carbine barrel.  Nevermind.

Just use whatever pistol you got.  I don't think using a .22 will "save" your hearing any more or less.  Read about scopes failing even due to sharper report/shock with the .22 round but I don't understand that.  Also some people wrote in their AAR they don't even recall hearing their guns firing.  fwiw we keep ear pro bedside as well.

PS90 would be a great choice with that mag capacity.

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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2013, 06:25:24 PM »
Times like this make you wish the Ruger charger with BX-25 wasn't on the no go list.

just get a 10/22 with a side folding stock and BX-25. pretty sure that would do just fine, no?

Kingkeoni

Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 06:26:46 PM »
just get a 10/22 with a side folding stock and BX-25. pretty sure that would do just fine, no?

I was just being sarcastic.

I wouldn't recommend 22lr for home defense unless that were your only option.
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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2013, 06:31:15 PM »
I was just being sarcastic.

I wouldn't recommend 22lr for home defense unless that were your only option.

I wonder how some of the .17 Win super mag would do.  Those things are cooking out like 3400+ fps..
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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2013, 07:00:12 PM »
I wonder how some of the .17 Win super mag would do.  Those things are cooking out like 3400+ fps..


.17 penetrates helmet


17hmr vs 22lr vs army helmet




How far will a .22 LR Kill?
@ 440yds 22LR was still considered lethal.
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dirsh

Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2013, 08:26:22 PM »
Any of you guys checked out the statistics from the link I posted?
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Re: 22lr for home defense?
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2013, 09:32:21 PM »
I read part of it, I saw the stats on a different website.

Link that I am providing if I am not mistaken uses that stat.



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