Post by: stangzilla on June 14, 2022, 09:27:59 AM
I like the Predator series, but I don't have Hulu to watch this one
Post by: macsak on June 14, 2022, 12:01:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOWUxl6swO4
I like the Predator series, but I don't have Hulu to watch this one
Post by: hvybarrels on June 14, 2022, 11:56:07 PM
Post by: QUIETShooter on June 15, 2022, 08:38:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOWUxl6swO4
I like the Predator series, but I don't have Hulu to watch this one
Thanks for sharing this. I'm looking forward to watching this one. :thumbsup:
Post by: stangzilla on June 15, 2022, 10:03:45 AM
sometimes I like watching a not so good movie. sometimes I like mindless violence
I liked Alien vs Predator, and Predators. not so good movies but I enjoyed watching them
Post by: hvybarrels on June 15, 2022, 10:23:12 AM
Paying too much money just to get preached at is not entertainment. It's the sign of a doomed religious organization.
At least those megachurches still function as social clubs
Post by: QUIETShooter on June 15, 2022, 11:24:06 AM
Did it start with "Free Willy?" :rofl:
But like Stang mentioned, I like the predator series. It might be mindless and some of the sequels were stupid but they were entertaining.
The concept is interesting. The plot or message? For me who da f**k cares..... :wave:
Post by: drck1000 on June 15, 2022, 11:51:10 AM
I would rather someone actually watch the movie before giving criticism rather than watching 2 minutes and giving their opinion. although it might be a "woke" prequil, but I'll still watch it bc i like the Predator seriesExactly. Mindless moving with guns, action, maybe some gore, etc.
sometimes I like watching a not so good movie. sometimes I like mindless violence
I liked Alien vs Predator, and Predators. not so good movies but I enjoyed watching them
True. A lot of the movies nowadays veil a "message" that they want to get across.Zactly!
Did it start with "Free Willy?" :rofl:
But like Stang mentioned, I like the predator series. It might be mindless and some of the sequels were stupid but they were entertaining.
The concept is interesting. The plot or message? For me who da f**k cares..... :wave:
I have a buddy that overanalyzes movies like this, or any really. Get's exhausting, especially analyzing character arcs, what he expects, etc. ::)
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 15, 2022, 07:47:19 PM
I like the Predator series, but I don't have Hulu to watch this one
It'll be on Disney+, too.
Most movie streaming services have a free trial period. Just saying.
Post by: aletheuo137 on June 16, 2022, 06:52:55 AM
Exactly. Mindless moving with guns, action, maybe some gore, etc.My sister will read the last chapter of a murder mystery before reading the book!
Zactly!
I have a buddy that overanalyzes movies like this, or any really. Get's exhausting, especially analyzing character arcs, what he expects, etc. ::)
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Post by: hvybarrels on June 16, 2022, 10:36:24 AM
I have a buddy that overanalyzes movies like this, or any really. Get's exhausting, especially analyzing character arcs, what he expects, etc. ::)
It's something to do when the movie is bad so you don't get bored, but when you develop a critical eye and all of a sudden find your disbelief suspended in an actual good movie the reward is even sweeter.
The Drinker pointed out that Ahnold's character in the original Predator changed his strategy from that of a soldier to that of a hunter, and it showed a character arc that we didn't realize at the time but we definitely felt it and were fully invested because of those creative choices. That was a really good movie.
Post by: drck1000 on June 16, 2022, 10:51:29 AM
It's something to do when the movie is bad so you don't get bored, but when you develop a critical eye and all of a sudden find your disbelief suspended in an actual good movie the reward is even sweeter.Ya. I love the original Predator, including some of the nuisances that one (can) pick up watching it multiple times.
The Drinker pointed out that Ahnold's character in the original Predator changed his strategy from that of a soldier to that of a hunter, and it showed a character arc that we didn't realize at the time but we definitely felt it and were fully invested because of those creative choices. That was a really good movie.
There are folks that the "disbelief" in character arcs that cause them to go on rants. Ok, I get it, that person didn't like it. But to be that extremely critical takes away from some of the enjoyment of movies, at least for me.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 16, 2022, 11:08:16 AM
It's something to do when the movie is bad so you don't get bored, but when you develop a critical eye and all of a sudden find your disbelief suspended in an actual good movie the reward is even sweeter.
The Drinker pointed out that Ahnold's character in the original Predator changed his strategy from that of a soldier to that of a hunter, and it showed a character arc that we didn't realize at the time but we definitely felt it and were fully invested because of those creative choices. That was a really good movie.
Arnold also discovered he could cover himself in wet mud as camouflage totally by accident.
That one element was the difference between him dying on the river bank and the rest of the movie happening! :thumbsup: :geekdanc:
Post by: drck1000 on June 16, 2022, 01:48:06 PM
Arnold also discovered he could cover himself in wet mud as camouflage totally by accident.So was that critical character evolution? Or survival of the lucky? ;D
That one element was the difference between him dying on the river bank and the rest of the movie happening! :thumbsup: :geekdanc:
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 16, 2022, 01:55:37 PM
So was that critical character evolution? Or survival of the lucky? ;D
He was lucky ... that the story writers had a little imagination.
What are the odds that he'd be covered in mud at that critical moment?
Post by: drck1000 on June 16, 2022, 02:13:04 PM
He was lucky ... that the story writers had a little imagination.Or that he would be perfectly covered with mud. Then eventually, it would try perfectly for a protective shell? 8)
What are the odds that he'd be covered in mud at that critical moment?
Post by: aletheuo137 on June 16, 2022, 02:39:08 PM
Or that he would be perfectly covered with mud. Then eventually, it would try perfectly for a protective shell? 8)It was in the script!
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Post by: drck1000 on June 16, 2022, 02:49:30 PM
It was in the script!Like that Liberty Mutual commercial :rofl:
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Post by: hvybarrels on June 16, 2022, 03:02:28 PM
Post by: drck1000 on June 16, 2022, 03:40:24 PM
I think the mud scene marked the beginning of his transformation. Before that he was used to being the strongest human with the biggest guns and toughest buddies, dominating everything in his path. The predator knocked him off the top of the food chain, came extremely close killing him in the process, and even though the mud was an accident it made him realize that he was no longer in a jungle war with conventional weapons but just another helpless animal in a primordial fight for survival. He had to throw out his usual tactics, completely change his strategy, and as a result he went from being a quivering side of beef to one of the few creatures in the galaxy who actually took down a Predator. That's way more inspiring than anything that happened in the sequels.Yeah, I can see that. Part of the evolution, even though by luck/accident. Realization of what happened was key in that evolution, like you mentioned.
While hella :wtf: I like the similar pivotal point scene of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" scene from Alien vs. Predator.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 16, 2022, 03:44:34 PM
I think the mud scene marked the beginning of his transformation. Before that he was used to being the strongest human with the biggest guns and toughest buddies, dominating everything in his path. The predator knocked him off the top of the food chain, came extremely close killing him in the process, and even though the mud was an accident it made him realize that he was no longer in a jungle war with conventional weapons but just another helpless animal in a primordial fight for survival. He had to throw out his usual tactics, completely change his strategy, and as a result he went from being a quivering side of beef to one of the few creatures in the galaxy who actually took down a Predator. That's way more inspiring than anything that happened in the sequels.
Why was I expecting to see the word "imperial" as I read through that?
:geekdanc:
Danny Glover did it better in the sequel. Regular guy (Cop) able to win respect from the alien predators on the ship. No mud-bath needed. :geekdanc: :thumbsup: He simply managed to get his hands on some alien tech.
The first movie should be re-titled: Predator vs. Terminator :rofl:
Post by: aletheuo137 on June 16, 2022, 05:39:42 PM
Like that Liberty Mutual commercial :rofl:We had a saying in High School, "only in the movies!"
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Post by: hvybarrels on June 16, 2022, 08:06:48 PM
Danny Glover did it better in the sequel. Regular guy (Cop) able to win respect from the alien predators on the ship. No mud-bath needed. :geekdanc: :thumbsup: He simply managed to get his hands on some alien tech.
Those evil Jamaicans were a lot of fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RikrsTLYylk
Post by: hvybarrels on June 16, 2022, 11:48:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFbGV9UNSPw
Post by: hvybarrels on June 17, 2022, 12:22:00 AM
Why was I expecting to see the word "imperial" as I read through that?
Thanks for the reminder. Recent events got me tense and sometimes I need to dial it back.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 17, 2022, 01:58:36 AM
I don't think there was a "transformation." What I saw was a soldier with skills, talent, training, experience and extreme physical conditioning who brought all that to bear on his situation.
Sure, the traps and weapons he built were "Boy Scout shit" (according to Carl/Dillon), but from the time they lost their first teammate, Arnold began receiving and gather clues about the enemy's capabilities and limitations. Without dissecting all the scenes and dialogue, he learned:
1. It uses camouflage similar to a chameleon.
2. It bleeds, so it can be killed. He also knows what that blood looks like.
3. It hunts for sport, which is why it didn't kill Anna who was unarmed.
4. In Anna's village, in the years when it was very hot, the men would be skinned or worse, that this thing hunts humans and has done so for a long time.
5. It can see their trip wires, but can't easily see traps and triggers made of rope, vines, limbs and rocks.
6. It uses the trees to gain the "high ground" advantage, and can travel through them to avoid trip wires.
7. It has advanced energy weapons that use laser sighting (the Predator shot at an animal in a tree stump while Arnold was watching -- right after he first got muddied up).
8. It could not see him with the mud on him, which indicated its vision was heat-based -- probably in the infrared spectrum.
9. The camouflage capability could be interrupted, like it was from it falling in the water.
He then decided to make the big tree in front of him his base where he would set traps and areas that would make it easier to see it. This way he gained the home field advantage -- let the hunter come to him. He also used vines so he could take the high ground. He used fire and more mud bathing to "blind" it. He was without his normal weapons, but had his knife and some rifle launched grenades. He used the gunpowder to make exploding devices: arrows, spears and a "grenade pouch" around his neck. Luckily he also had some stick matches. He was very resourceful, which indicates a lot of time spent in survival training and practicing it in real life.
A lot of the traps were designed as anti-personnel contraptions. I'm sure they were a combination of survival know-how for finding food as well as devices used in jungle warfare throughout history: pits with punji sticks, large snares to toss you into pointy branches, etc.
I think this all falls under the category of "improvise - adapt - overcome." He was able to gather some intel on his enemy, through necessity and his previous success of using natural resources for traps. After analyzing the enemy's strengths and weaknesses, he was able to apply that knowledge and his skills to gain an advantage.
Much of this is within the wheelhouse of a soldier's knowledge, not that of a game hunter. Although the two worlds overlap, hunters are not often busy trying to survive attacks from the very animals they are trying to hunt.
All in all, I think the musical score "makes" the movie. Reminds me a little of the score behind the Eastwood western, "Hang 'em High."
I did learn something new I never noticed before. The same actor, Kevin Peter Hall, played both the Predator as well as the helicopter pilot flying the chopper coming back for Arnold. He looks out at the mushroom cloud and says, "What the ... ?" :geekdanc:
I learned most of my wilderness survival skills from my Scout Master, who happened to be a former Green Beret. Go figure. :thumbsup:
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 17, 2022, 03:18:03 AM
For my money, predator 2 was the best predator movie
Post by: stangzilla on June 17, 2022, 07:31:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylnZ22mJuBw
Post by: drck1000 on June 17, 2022, 07:38:48 AM
Jesse Ventura was the real star of the movie"Goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus, just like me"
;D
That mini-gun tho. . . brrrrrrtttt!
Post by: stangzilla on June 17, 2022, 07:51:02 AM
Jesse Ventura was the real star of the movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylnZ22mJuBw
before he was a professional wrestler, he was in the Navy in the UDT, underwater demolition team. I'm sure many of us know this already
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 17, 2022, 01:07:55 PM
before he was a professional wrestler, he was in the Navy in the UDT, underwater demolition team. I'm sure many of us know this already
Yeah. That came out when he sued a dead hero's widow for words he'd published.
Post by: QUIETShooter on June 17, 2022, 01:10:49 PM
After the gun ran out of ammo, all you can hear is the electric motor running as it continued to cycle the action. In front of them was a complete swath of jungle mowed down by the devastating fire.
One of my favorite scenes in the movie!! :thumbsup:
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 17, 2022, 01:18:15 PM
I kinda forget how the movie went but was it the black guy (not the Apollo Creed guy) that grabbed the mini-gun after Jesse got popped by the alien and then he cut loose with the gun, just firing wildly into the jungle.
After the gun ran out of ammo, all you can hear is the electric motor running as it continued to cycle the action. In front of them was a complete swath of jungle mowed down by the devastating fire.
One of my favorite scenes in the movie!! :thumbsup:
Blain's (Ventura's) friend was Mac -- the bald Black guy who kept shaving with a disposable razor.
Mac picked up Blain's gun and shot at the Predator, wounding it. He wasn't the only one. As the others ran to help, they, too, started firing bullets, grenades and whatever else they had in the same direction.
I think Mac exhausted all the ammo for that gun so his ass wouldn't have to lug it through the jungle!
Just a theory... :rofl:
Post by: QUIETShooter on June 17, 2022, 01:59:25 PM
Blain's (Ventura's) friend was Mac -- the bald Black guy who kept shaving with a disposable razor.
Mac picked up Blain's gun and shot at the Predator, wounding it. He wasn't the only one. As the others ran to help, they, too, started firing bullets, grenades and whatever else they had in the same direction.
Thanks for the re-cap, I remember now! :thumbsup: Makes me wanna watch the movie again. Yeah, that guy Mac was the coolest character in the movie imo, lol!
I think Mac exhausted all the ammo for that gun so his ass wouldn't have to lug it through the jungle!
Just a theory... :rofl:
Yeah, I wouldn't blame him! :rofl: I wonder how heavy that thing is, not to mention the ammo. It looks clearly like 4 to 5 times heavier than the M-60 we used to lug around back then.
Post by: stangzilla on June 17, 2022, 03:06:18 PM
Yeah. That came out when he sued a dead hero's widow for words he'd published.
yeah, that wasn't a good thing to do
Post by: hvybarrels on June 17, 2022, 03:55:00 PM
Edit: I'm doing it again, aren't I?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 17, 2022, 04:17:00 PM
Ventura won a libel case, which means there were obvious lies about him in the book. The insurance company for the publisher was the one who lost the lawsuit. The wife had nothing to do with it.
Still, it seemed petty on his part.
I guess once you've been a professional wrestler, state governor and celebrated conspiracy theorist, taking the high road is no longer an option.
:geekdanc: :shaka:
God forbid anyone tarnish such a stellar resume.
Post by: hvybarrels on June 17, 2022, 08:06:18 PM
celebrated conspiracy theorist
Haven't you noticed over the past couple years most of that "conspiracy" stuff came true?
Ventura was the target of a deep state smear campaign because he spoke out against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The people who put him in power wanted another Ahnold "screw your freedom" Schwarzenegger and were very disappointed.
These swamp creatures carry over from each administration (party doesn't matter) and are the same ones who went after Trump. Cancel culture was actually started by the Bush adminstration after 9/11, but back then they called it the Patriot Act.
Chris Kyle was very good at his job and saved countless lives, but he was clearly part of a propaganda campaign and it begs the question what else in his memoirs was fabricated.
Post by: stangzilla on August 09, 2022, 05:13:48 PM
I'll try watch it this weekend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV1V4r3FaJQ
Post by: passivekinetic on August 10, 2022, 01:42:42 PM
But I think I rewatched ALIENS more times.
If anyone has not watched the extended uncut version of ALIENS, there are some interesting backstories, and more footage of the automated defense turrets (which is no longer science fiction nowadays).
Post by: stangzilla on August 10, 2022, 01:44:58 PM
Holy smokes you guys wrote a ton about Predator LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But I think I rewatched ALIENS more times.
If anyone has not watched the extended uncut version of ALIENS, there are some interesting backstories, and more footage of the automated defense turrets (which is no longer science fiction nowadays).
I liked the movie "Aliens vs Predators"
Post by: passivekinetic on August 10, 2022, 01:47:01 PM
I kinda forget how the movie went but was it the black guy (not the Apollo Creed guy) that grabbed the mini-gun after Jesse got popped by the alien and then he cut loose with the gun, just firing wildly into the jungle.
Hey hey hey, have some respect!
They are not just called the "alien".
They are the Yautja.
And sometimes the Hish-Qu-Ten.
(LOL I'm just screwing with you, hahahaha, I happened to see that when Googling around LOL)
Post by: passivekinetic on August 10, 2022, 02:07:36 PM
https://youtu.be/cBwDibYQWsk
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 10, 2022, 09:06:41 PM
OMFG! :shake:
I got the Skullcandy Crusher EVO Sensory Bass Headphones from Costco Online:
https://www.costco.com/skullcandy-crusher-evo-sensory-bass-headphones-with-personal-sound.product.100785779.html
They are on sale at Costco for $50 off, making them a great value depending on your needs.
I have the bass slider control just barely above the lowest setting, and my head is literally being shaken by the sound! I thought someone was behind me messing with me (and I'm alone!). :wacko:
I called Costco on Sunday to check, and was told they don't carry them in the warehouse now. So I placed my order that night and they came today. Now they are showing out of stock on the Costco site.
Guess I got lucky! So far, they are everything I want in a BT wireless over-the-ear headphones for TV, movies, music, and phone calls.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 10, 2022, 10:15:22 PM
Hey hey hey, have some respect!
They are not just called the "alien".
They are the Yautja.
And sometimes the Hish-Qu-Ten.
(LOL I'm just screwing with you, hahahaha, I happened to see that when Googling around LOL)
Hey, let's not get our franchises confused.
Prey is part of the Predator franchise.
Alien is a whole other story ... if you don't count that one movie with the "merged" plot! :geekdanc:.
Post by: WTF?Shane on August 10, 2022, 11:47:14 PM
I decided to wait until my new headphones arrived before watching Prey. I'm watching now.
OMFG! :shake:
I got the Skullcandy Crusher EVO Sensory Bass Headphones from Costco Online:
https://www.costco.com/skullcandy-crusher-evo-sensory-bass-headphones-with-personal-sound.product.100785779.html
They are on sale at Costco for $50 off, making them a great value depending on your needs.
I have the bass slider control just barely above the lowest setting, and my head is literally being shaken by the sound! I thought someone was behind me messing with me (and I'm alone!). :wacko:
I called Costco on Sunday to check, and was told they don't carry them in the warehouse now. So I placed my order that night and they came today. Now they are showing out of stock on the Costco site.
Guess I got lucky! So far, they are everything I want in a BT wireless over-the-ear headphones for TV, movies, music, and phone calls.
So how was the movie?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 11, 2022, 01:17:02 PM
So how was the movie?
I didn't want to be "that guy" who posts a bunch of spoilers before everyone else has a chance to see it first.
First impressions: They used a LOT of the same plot devices from the first Predator movie, but once you're convinced the scene is a blatant rip-off from the original, they take you in an unexpected direction. I like a movie where I can't predict what's going to happen scene-to-scene.
Bottom line: I liked it. The ending, as with almost every movie the last 20+ years, could have had a better wrap-up.
Obviously the script writer is a Millennial. Many of the phrases used were current slang, something I highly doubt anyone a few hundred years ago would have used, much less Native Americans.
p.s. I think the Skullcandy headphones made a big difference in being able to enjoy the movie. I could crank the volume and enjoy the bass effects without disturbing the neighbors .... and their neighbors ... and so on! :geekdanc:
Post by: passivekinetic on August 11, 2022, 01:24:45 PM
Hey, let's not get our franchises confused.
Prey is part of the Predator franchise.
Alien is a whole other story ... if you don't count that one movie with the "merged" plot! :geekdanc:.
DUDE!
I did not get my franchises mixed up. Re-read!
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 11, 2022, 01:29:38 PM
DUDE!
I did not get my franchises mixed up. Re-read!
It was a JOKE!
Geesh! and Swoooooosh!
:wacko: