I've heard such speculation before regarding gun modifications.  I've also heard similar discussion on ammo choices and people going with what the local PD uses.  However, I never could decide for myself how much of that was speculation and how much was from "real life" experiences.

One of my best friends is a former prosecuting attorney.  Since he moved on from that job, he's developed quite an interest in firearms, particularly for defensive use.  I admit that I helped in that regard. . . 

Anyways, back on topic.  I'll talk with him about this next time I see him.  I know his Sig is stock with a Streamlight.  He also has a used Glock 19 that came with a Ghost trigger and Trijicon HD sights.  Since getting the gun, he changed out the extractor and the ejector because he was getting stove-pipes and brass to the face.  Not sure if he swapped out the action spring as well.  We went to the range recently and whatever he changed out seems to have resolved his issues.  In my mind, the changes were all about ensuring that the gun functions properly.  For triggers, as long as they aren't monkeyed with to be super light, then I would think it wouldn't be an issue.  That said, you never know. . .

Just curious, but why'd you change the safety plunger? Was the spring the action spring?  If you still have the stock action spring, I could use a spare for my 34.  Hehe 

Thanks for offering to check.  A former prosecutor's opinion would definitely be welcome.

I'm not sure of the proper names for the springs, but I've changed ALL of the coiled ones.  Combined with the Ghost Evo Elite trigger (which I like a lot better than the Ghost Rocket which I also have) the trigger pull is night and day different.  Relatively cheap upgrades too as I got a whole set of different spring weights to replace each spring for fine tuning for not much money at all.  I do intend to keep all the stock stuff, just in case I ever want to return it to stock though...  Downside to all the spring tuning is that the trigger safety doesn't always function properly as the trigger does not always return all the way forward to engage it.  Finger off the trigger anyway right?  Pull weight is around 3.5 lbs, I think.

I got the gold/titanium safety plunger and reduced safety plunger spring on a bit of a whim after reading too much internet.  Supposedly, it being lighter would smooth the trigger further as the trigger bar (?) had an easier time depressing the plunger.  Honestly I don't think I could tell the difference on that change, but I left it in anyway. 

I talked to Tony at the pistol range last Sunday (the last day it was open) and he offered that the current plan was to indeed only allow 100yd shooting at the rifle range after these changes.

After these "repairs" are completed, they hoped for a Phase 2 where additional changes would be made to allow for shooting at distances other than 100yds.  He added that Phase 2 would require permits (unlike the emergency repairs they're doing now?) and actual range design changes so a 6 MONTH timeframe would probably be optimistic.

I really hope Mayor Caldwell, the Parks Director Robinson, and any other party that has a say in this understands just how limiting and significantly negative shooting at only 100yds is.  Hopefully we can let them try to hit a target at 100yds on a windy day with iron sights and a .22lr so they can realize that such a final outcome is unacceptable and Phase 2 needs to be fast tracked as much as possible.

We need someone to be sure common sense and logic are represented in this situation (if not for the limited repairs then at least for Phase 2), whether that's from the HRA, Mike Muramoto, another representative from the grassroots movement, or hopefully all of the above. 

While I do give major kudos to the Mayor and his team for responding in what I do believe is an as fast as reasonably possible timeframe for these initial repairs, I fear they may not understand what the limitations will do and the importance of getting this right soon.  People who don't actually shoot will probably figure, "the range is back open, it's all good now for the shooters."  If the limitations are implemented as indicated, I would strongly disagree, and don't believe for a second that such limitations are actually necessary to improve safety.

Baby steps are fine, as long as it's not a couple of baby steps- and then live with rules that make no sense "because."

problem is, common sense went out the window a long time ago
the reason they are going back to the original design considerations is that if they go beyond the original design and something goes wrong, the city is LIABLE

mac, I know I'm not arguing with you, and I don't doubt that's the argument/excuse that may be put out there, but I don't see how it justifies the decision.  Someone designed KHSC 60 some years ago (or whatever it is) and I imagine there aren't many people who would like to accept the liability of any design changes, but there must be some standards or some agency that can be used/paid to update/approve the other uses that have been going on safely for decades.

Really, if they need to make changes, how hard is it to throw some dirt out at 50 yds so you can place your targets (taller if necessary) so they're right in line with the 100yd berm?

Liability?  I know 2 wrongs don't make a right, but there's a ton of liability for the state continuing to allow people to go hike an unauthorized and unmaintained trail above a shooting range too.  If a sign telling people not to trespass up there is sufficient liability prevention, so should a sign that says don't shoot your rifle over koko head.

To try and keep this constructive, does anyone know who could/would certify a range like this to acceptable safety standards?

87, 89, 92?
is 10% ethanol ok?
or do we have to get the kind from the harbor or selected gas stations that has no ethanol?

edited to add:
asking because i want to bring a small gas can of gas for them to use and i don't want to get bad stuff
others of us who are prepared sometimes have a few gallons stashed away in their car or house and may want to donate it so they can rotate it out
just don't want to screw anybody's stuff up because they volunteered to clean the range
i know that smaller motors are affected the most

Hey Mac-
Just so you know, they have Ethanol Free Gas at the closest gas station to the range - the 76 on Lunalilo right by Hawaii National Bank.  It's usually the same price as E10 92 which is WAY cheaper than what the harbors charge (in particular those guys at Ala Wai that have been gouging me for years).

I have three 5 gallon gas cans that have only seen ethanol free gas if this project is still on and we need some.

"Patience little grasshopper."  Wait time is several months if you miss their production cycle for your caliber/bullet.

Finally delivered 7/18, so my 2000 bullets took 4 months and a week, coming without warning.  Now I just wish I had ordered more...

I have a person beef with the company over unethical business practices.

Mind sharing either here or over PM?  I think it's clear they raised prices during the panic, but I have a feeling you're referring to something else...

Well, I've owned a handgun since the tender age of  21, been shooting them since I was ten... and I found it kinda silly that to add to my collection  after moving to hawaii that I would need to take a special  (expensive) class.   It turned out I could register my (bought new off the line in 98' ) out of state handgun without any of the permiting  mumbo jumbo, but since I wanted to hunt here anyway, I took hunters ed and killed two birds with one rock, just in case I wanted to buy another handgun.
The pistol class just wasnt going to teach me anything I didnt already know about how to safely own, operate, and store a handgun, and at the time... 250 dollars could buy a lot of ammo.
In reality, everything I really needed to know about guns was taught to me by my dad, he also taught me such other valuable practical lessons like, how to clean a fish, change a tire, light a campfire without matches, and aways wear a rubber... when I was a kid - the way it should be

Pretty sad that even some of the shooting community is brainwashed to the point that they agree that in order to exercise the right to bear arms, that a citizen be made to take an expensive class. Everything a person needs to know about a gun can be found in it's manual, everything they need to know about how to be proficient with it can be learned for free at a good range, if you strike up a conversation with a friendly old salt shooter. My dad taught me how to shoot, some rangemaster at jackson arms in cali taught me a better grip, and trigger pull and helped me shoot better,
Heck, when my mini 30 arrived, the ffl that did the transfer showed me that a sharp blow to the butt of the rifle when the bolt is locked back can release it and chamber a round if you have a hot mag in it...(thats in the manual by the way)  Ive passed this kind knowledge on to other shooters... the way it should be.

Snuffalupaus, you sound like the perfect candidate for the hunters ed class- background in shooting and want a hunting license.  I don't know what the OP's background is, but I know many people who take the handgun class learn some valuable information there. 

In an ideal world, I don't think such classes should be required, because ideally anyone doing so without a class would be doing it because they either already have experience, or a solid plan on how to educate themselves on safety and legal issues.

Understanding that this is not an ideal world (and seeing how some newbs behave on the range), I do have mixed feelings about showing some level of proficiency before purchasing a handgun.

That debate aside, my main point was for anyone who needed/wanted to learn something about firearms and were trying to choose between a handgun class and hunter's ed, I can say again, with confidence, that you aren't going to learn much about guns from hunter's ed.

I know prices vary, but when I took the OGC class it was only $120 and I got $20 off of my gun purchase.  I think that would be money well spent for any person new to guns.

Still no delivery from PD after placing my order 3/12...

Made 2 visits today. 

Permit pick up visit arrived at 11:50, line was about 6 people long.  Out of there in 15 min.

Registration visit arrived at 1:15, line was about 10 people long.  Took 45 min as for whatever reason the line didn't move for 20 min at one point.  They did call for permit pickups once.  Once it started moving again, it was a fast registration.

Not bad for a Friday, I'd say.

http://concealedcarryacademy.com/gs/index.php

A fellow 2a Hawaii member found this and we were wondering if anyone had any experience with this course (or something simliar).

It seems almost too good to be true- watch a 90 min video online, take a 20 question quiz, fill out some paperwork, pay some money, and get the right to concealed carry in 35 states with the AZ and VA non-resident permits.

Looking at the reciprocity list, not sure why you would want the VA one once you have the AZ one as the AZ covers everything you get from VA as well and it's cheaper.

Not sure if a course like this is actually a good idea as you may actually want more instruction than this, and I'm sure it's not specific enough about the CCW laws of each state that you'll be earning the right to carry in, but this might seem to be a good way to get the job done if you already have some experience or wanted to do this cheaply from Hawaii.