Pistol transport in car; can be soft case right? No need hard case?

What about long guns?

As long as enclosed, unloaded, OK right? No ammo nearby.

Pistol transport in car; can be soft case right? No need hard case?

What about long guns?

As long as enclosed, unloaded, OK right? No ammo nearby.

Recommend you spend a little more time reading the Hawaii Revised Statues regarding firearms.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0023.htm

... it shall be lawful to carry unloaded firearms in an enclosed container...

     "Enclosed container" means a rigidly constructed receptacle, or a commercially manufactured gun case, or the equivalent thereof that completely encloses the firearm.

     (b)  Any person violating this section by carrying or possessing a loaded firearm other than a pistol or revolver shall be guilty of a class B felony. [L 2006, c 66, pt of §1]

That's the law. 

yes but it says OR

or the equivalent thereof that completely encloses the firearm

so, I have a soft gun case that "completely encloses the firearm"

?

   [§134-23]  Place to keep loaded firearms other than pistols and revolvers; penalty.  (a)  Except as provided in section 134-5, all firearms shall be confined to the possessor's place of business, residence, or sojourn; provided that it shall be lawful to carry unloaded firearms in an enclosed container from the place of purchase to the purchaser's place of business, residence, or sojourn, or between these places upon change of place of business, residence, or sojourn, or between these places and the following:

     (1)  A place of repair;

     (2)  A target range;

     (3)  A licensed dealer's place of business;

     (4)  An organized, scheduled firearms show or exhibit;

     (5)  A place of formal hunter or firearm use training or instruction; or

     (6)  A police station.

     "Enclosed container" means a rigidly constructed receptacle, or a commercially manufactured gun case, or the equivalent thereof that completely encloses the firearm.

     (b)  Any person violating this section by carrying or possessing a loaded firearm other than a pistol or revolver shall be guilty of a class B felony. [L 2006, c 66, pt of §1]

 

yes but it says OR

so, I have a soft gun case that "completely encloses the firearm"

?

Plain English:

a rigid case
OR
a commercially manufactured gun case,
OR
 the equivalent thereof.

If it fits this description, it's legal.  Soft or not, if it is commercially manufactured as a gun case OR is the equivalent of one, it's fine.

Yes, I have this one

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Padded-Weapons-Case,137,134.htm

And I put inside AR15, and 3 handguns.

Is good no?

I guess, somebody beat me to it...I guess, since a soft rifle case sames ok, then a soft case for pistol should be ok also.  I usually put them in a soft case, then placed them inside the range bag...out of plain sight (trunk, if possible)

Yes, I have this one

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Padded-Weapons-Case,137,134.htm

And I put inside AR15, and 3 handguns.

Is good no?

Are you being thickheaded on purpose?   

I don't understand why you say that? I really need to know. No joking.

I don't understand why you say that? I really need to know. No joking.

Maybe if you can't figure out that's a "commercially manufactured gun case," you have bigger issues?   

I understand why you bug me about that but I just wanted to be 100% sure.

So I guess I am ok.

Yes, I was 99.9% sure before and in fact that is how I have been transporting firearms but the change this time is that not only do I have the rifle inside that soft case, but I also put 3 handguns inside which normally I put in their OEM hard cases (Glock, etc).

So I needed to come here and ask 100%.

PK, you're good to go. Try not to over analyze things.

I guess, somebody beat me to it...I guess, since a soft rifle case sames ok, then a soft case for pistol should be ok also.  I usually put them in a soft case, then placed them inside the range bag...out of plain sight (trunk, if possible)

not sure about putting a pistol on the side pocket...3-pistols inside main padded compartment, might be ok.  it's better you get the double rifle hard rifle case so you can put all in there.

So..is a small gym bag a no go..for a broken down rifle?

Yes I know, but I need to be 100% right.

I knew if I asked I would get hassled a bit but I decided better to be sure and take a few hits.

So I take a few minor hits but I got my answer.

 

The other sidebar to this post of course is the fact that I bought new firearms! That is why I need to transport to HPD to register! 

I understand why you bug me about that but I just wanted to be 100% sure.

So I guess I am ok.

Yes, I was 99.9% sure before and in fact that is how I have been transporting firearms but the change this time is that not only do I have the rifle inside that soft case, but I also put 3 handguns inside which normally I put in their OEM hard cases (Glock, etc).

So I needed to come here and ask 100%.

then that's good since the pistols are inside oem plastic cases, then inside the rifle case...

I understand why you bug me about that but I just wanted to be 100% sure.

So I guess I am ok.

Yes, I was 99.9% sure before and in fact that is how I have been transporting firearms but the change this time is that not only do I have the rifle inside that soft case, but I also put 3 handguns inside which normally I put in their OEM hard cases (Glock, etc).

So I needed to come here and ask 100%.

If you ever go to the range, I have doubts why you would have this question at all.  Every possible type of case known to shooting is on display.  Yours look like the majority of them.

Question was answered in the HRS quote.  Asking for further clarification about that specific bag seemed rather troll-ish...   

not sure about putting a pistol on the side pocket...3-pistols inside main padded compartment, might be ok.  it's better you get the double rifle hard rifle case so you can put all in there.

Damn.

OK I bring all the pistols in their hard cases. It will make carrying them super hassle. I got 3 long guns and 3 pistols to carry to HPD.

If you ever go to the range, I have doubts why you would have this question at all.  Every possible type of case known to shooting is on display.  Yours look like the majority of them.

Question was answered in the HRS quote.  Asking for further clarification about that specific bag seemed rather troll-ish...   

Going to HPD that is why I want to ask 100%

To be fair, the way laws are written, some semantics and nuances are open to interpretation.

So..is a small gym bag a no go..for a broken down rifle?

the equivalent thereof that completely encloses the firearm....depends on interpretation...that's why we have lawyers...lol