Wouldn't the key chain be considered a brass knuckle?   

Oh I know, let's just call 911 while we're getting stabbed, thrown in a dumpster or our heads bashed in!  That'll work!

The law specifies "metal knuckles".  These are super-hard plastic or rubber.  Very tough.

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The law specifies "metal knuckles".  These are super-hard plastic or rubber.  Very tough.

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It's perfectly LEGAL to carry and use "pepper spray" in any shape or form.




Sec. 41-37.3 Restrictions on possession, sale, and use of pepper sprays.
It is unlawful for any person to use any pepper spray for any purpose except:
(1) Self-defense;
(2) Defense of another person; or
(3) Protection of property of the person or of another person.

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Problem is that under HRS 134, these are defined as 'deadly weapons', simply because their intended creation/purpose is for self-defense/bodily harm. If you are going the knuckle route, I'd just head to Home Depot and fit a d-ring to your hand, then use it as a key ring.


Yes, but regardless of the legality, they WILL find a way to crucify you in court for having something that looks like a firearm; it's just the Modus operandi of this particular department.


When in doubt, contact HPD firearms and specifically speak to the highest ranking officer and/or administration; the guys at the window tend not to know jack. You could also contact the court system to get an exact interpretation of the law. I would be interested in finding out about these as well, as it seems like a viable option for CCW for the time being. However, the potential problem I see with this is the whole 'concealed carry' debacle. If these are considered legal, I'd hope they don't fall under the regulations for a CCW, because the chief will immediately shoot you down, and there is no way to open carry this item openly without causing some problems.

Since this item is a keychain, I've been allowed to carry it into courthouses and on aircraft.  The security folks don't give it a second glance. 

There's no blade, no projectile, and no metal other than the key ring and keys.  Unless you know what you're looking at, it's just a big, funny looking key fob.

I think the term "deadly weapon" is not a catch-all.  The courts have said that a knife, while not being used to injure or kill, is not in and of itself a deadly weapon (excluding certain "scary" exceptions).  Once you use it as a weapon, it then is treated as such.

So many everyday items are potential weapons.  That doesn't make them illegal to conceal carry.

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how did they know it was a kubotan and not some other blunt object in your pants?
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1673 Kapiolani Blvd

 

I still think walking sticks and/or a flashlight is the best option we have right now in Hawaii.

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Illegal. See bolded section

  §134-1  Definitions.  As used in this chapter, unless the context indicates otherwise:
     "Acquire" means gain ownership of.
     "Antique pistol or revolver" means any pistol or revolver manufactured before 1899 and any replica thereof if it either is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition or is designed or redesigned to use rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition that is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.
     "Assault pistol" means a semiautomatic pistol which accepts a detachable magazine and which has two or more of the following characteristics:
     (1)  An ammunition magazine which attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

     (2)  A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward hand grip, or silencer;

     (3)  A shroud which is attached to or partially or completely encircles the barrel and which permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the second hand without being burned;

     (4)  A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded;

     (5)  A centerfire pistol with an overall length of twelve inches or more; or

     (6)  It is a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm;

but does not include a firearm with a barrel sixteen or more inches in length, an antique pistol as defined in this section or a curio or relic as those terms are used in 18 United States Code §921(16) or 27 Code of Federal Regulations 178.11.
     "Automatic firearm" means any firearm that shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily modified to shoot automatically more than one shot, without a manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.  This term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such firearm, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or any combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a firearm into an automatic firearm, and any combination of parts from which an automatic firearm can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a single person.
     "Chief of police" means the chief of police of the counties of Hawaii, Maui, Kauai, or the city and county of Honolulu.
     "Crime of violence" means any offense, as defined in title 37, that involves injury or threat of injury to the person of another.
     "Electric gun" means any portable device that is electrically operated to project a missile or electromotive force.  It does not include any electric livestock prod used in animal husbandry and any automatic external defibrillator used in emergency medical situations.
    "Firearm" means any weapon, for which the operating force is an explosive, including but not limited to pistols, revolvers, rifles, shotguns, automatic firearms, noxious gas projectors, mortars, bombs, and cannon.
     "Firearm loaded with ammunition" and "loaded firearm" means a firearm with ammunition present within the firing chamber, revolving cylinder, or within a magazine which is inserted in a firearm.
     "Fugitive from justice" means any person (1) who has fled from any state, territory, the District of Columbia, or possession of the United States, to avoid prosecution for a felony or to avoid giving testimony in any criminal proceeding or (2) who has fled from any country other than the United States and is avoiding lawful extradition back to that country.
     "Pistol" or "revolver" means any firearm of any shape with a barrel less than sixteen inches in length and capable of discharging loaded ammunition or any noxious gas.
     "Public highway" shall have the same meaning as defined in section 264-1(a).
     "Semiautomatic" means the mode of operation by which a firearm uses the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to extract a fired cartridge and chamber a fresh cartridge with each single pull of a trigger. [L 1988, c 275, pt of §2 and am c 271, §2; am L 1989, c 263, §§2, 3; am L 1990, c 195, §1; am L 1992, c 286, §1; am L 1994, c 204, §2; am L 2001, c 252, §2]

That makes HILTI nail guns are "firearms". 

 

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