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macsak

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #280 on: December 29, 2013, 11:50:14 AM »
Quote from: dogman on December 29, 2013, 11:41:11 AM
Are these illegal hikers arrested or fined after they are rescued?

nope
not sure how it is for stairway to heaven, but for koko head, no
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edster48

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #281 on: December 29, 2013, 11:51:53 AM »
 
Quote from: dogman on December 29, 2013, 11:41:11 AM
Are these illegal hikers arrested or fined after they are rescued?

I'm sure they're given a stern talking to. Which has undoubtedly struck fear into hearts of all. ???
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ren

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #282 on: December 29, 2013, 12:01:10 PM »
They're like zombies going to the mall. " must hike Kokohead..."
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edster48

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #283 on: December 29, 2013, 12:13:54 PM »
Quote from: ren on December 29, 2013, 12:01:10 PM
They're like zombies going to the mall. " must hike Kokohead..."

What like is the attitude. When I saw the coverage on the news about Mariners Ridge being closed they interviewed some chirpy hiker girl who said  " oh, we'll probably just go around the fence and hike it anyway" and nobody said anything negative about it, even though they'd be breaking the law and knowingly trespassing on private property.

Then expect us taxpayers to pony up and save their rosy butts when they get into trouble. I'm tired of the double standard.
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ren

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #284 on: December 29, 2013, 04:32:57 PM »
Quote from: edster48 on December 29, 2013, 12:13:54 PM
What like is the attitude. When I saw the coverage on the news about Mariners Ridge being closed they interviewed some chirpy hiker girl who said  " oh, we'll probably just go around the fence and hike it anyway" and nobody said anything negative about it, even though they'd be breaking the law and knowingly trespassing on private property.

Then expect us taxpayers to pony up and save their rosy butts when they get into trouble. I'm tired of the double standard.

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ImKu

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #285 on: December 29, 2013, 07:46:16 PM »
Quote from: dogman on December 29, 2013, 11:41:11 AM
Are these illegal hikers arrested or fined after they are rescued?

They are only arrested if HPD intervenes, otherwise that is not part of the rescue crews job.  From talking with a retired Fire Captain, all rescues that involve a rescue crew, helicopter, and/or HFD are paid by the city(taxpayers) with the exception of the Ambulance (something like $700?).  I'm not even sure what type of penalties are given to trespassers... anyone  ???  I can only guess that it would be different between private, city, and federal property.
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dirsh

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #286 on: December 30, 2013, 12:39:54 PM »
So if someone were to call the cops on the illegal hikers would they do anything about it?
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zippz

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #287 on: December 30, 2013, 12:42:21 PM »
Quote from: dirsh on December 30, 2013, 12:39:54 PM
So if someone were to call the cops on the illegal hikers would they do anything about it?

The landowner would have to call the cops. 
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stangzilla

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #288 on: December 30, 2013, 12:50:53 PM »
dont know about recently
but in the past there used to be a guard stationed at haiku staircase hike, which is also a closed hike.
you would think having a gun range close by would warrant at least the same treatment.

try going on that haiku staircase hike, and the locals will harrass you saying its private property and a closed hike
and then they call the cops
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ren

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #289 on: December 30, 2013, 02:48:29 PM »
Quote from: stangzilla on December 30, 2013, 12:50:53 PM
dont know about recently
but in the past there used to be a guard stationed at haiku staircase hike, which is also a closed hike.
you would think having a gun range close by would warrant at least the same treatment.
try going on that haiku staircase hike, and the locals will harrass you saying its private property and a closed hike
and then they call the cops
From what I can interpret by historical inaction on the part of the state and/or city is that the illegal trail has a higher precedence than the range. With everything that is going on recently with the range i.e. unsubstantiated blame of errant projectiles, shooters caught on photo in the midst of mounting a rifle etc. suggest an agenda that supports the trail while trumping the existence of Oahu's ONLY public shooting range. Let's not forget that first responders risk their lives in the rescue of these illegal hikers as well. The situation stinks as any accident on that trail is preventable. In addition, there was a crime that was committed on that trail with the criminal free and victims still suffering from his actions.
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Boomah

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #290 on: December 30, 2013, 04:24:34 PM »
Quote from: dirsh on December 30, 2013, 12:39:54 PM
So if someone were to call the cops on the illegal hikers would they do anything about it?

I do know an officer who has arrested illegal hikers on a different trail (still unsanctioned, just a different part of the island).   They were arrested for trespassing after AIR 1 dropped them off.   So, I'm guessing here, it's probably at the discretion of the responding office...

Boomah :shaka:
« Last Edit: December 30, 2013, 07:49:12 PM by Boomah »
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mnpfamily

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #291 on: December 30, 2013, 11:32:04 PM »
Quote from: ren on December 30, 2013, 02:48:29 PM
From what I can interpret by historical inaction on the part of the state and/or city is that the illegal trail has a higher precedence than the range. With everything that is going on recently with the range i.e. unsubstantiated blame of errant projectiles, shooters caught on photo in the midst of mounting a rifle etc. suggest an agenda that supports the trail while trumping the existence of Oahu's ONLY public shooting range. Let's not forget that first responders risk their lives in the rescue of these illegal hikers as well. The situation stinks as any accident on that trail is preventable. In addition, there was a crime that was committed on that trail with the criminal free and victims still suffering from his actions.
PM sent regarding some ?s. 
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Boomah

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #292 on: January 01, 2014, 12:10:25 AM »
While celebrating the new year with family, just noticed people taking pics & setting off some fireworks at the top of Koko Head crater...

Well, Happy New Year 2A, hoping for a better 2014!  :shaka:

Boomah
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ren

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #293 on: January 01, 2014, 12:56:44 AM »
Quote from: Boomah on January 01, 2014, 12:10:25 AM
While celebrating the new year with family, just noticed people taking pics & setting off some fireworks at the top of Koko Head crater...

Well, Happy New Year 2A, hoping for a better 2014!  :shaka:

Boomah

Gee, that answers the question of ,"Where did this come from?"
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Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #294 on: January 01, 2014, 03:20:33 AM »
Quote from: Boomah on January 01, 2014, 12:10:25 AM
While celebrating the new year with family, just noticed people taking pics & setting off some fireworks at the top of Koko Head crater...

Well, Happy New Year 2A, hoping for a better 2014!  :shaka:

Boomah

Gee, I wonder how many house strikes Knudnuts will find and blame on unsafe fireworks from KH Crater?   :rofl:
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Ryan07

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #295 on: January 03, 2014, 01:53:37 PM »
I'm sure they will be reported as rounds from the rifle range.
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ren

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #296 on: January 07, 2014, 10:39:22 AM »
Here's a solution to the fill needed and the source of the fill material.
Take the dredged material from HK and use that as fill to bring the range up to the height of the shooters' positions. Afterall, the sludge is already dirty. Hawaii Kai gets to rid their fill material and the range gets it.
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aieahound

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #297 on: January 08, 2014, 09:40:24 AM »
Brilliant !


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mnpfamily

Re: Rifle range at Kokohead CLOSED
« Reply #298 on: January 08, 2014, 10:00:26 PM »
Yep, but that would keep the stuff they trying to get rid of in their own neighborhood.  Probably not going to fly because it kinda seems like what Hawaii Kry wants, Hawaii Kry gets.
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