Nailed it Ren!! Yes there are bad cops and we just have to trust the system will find them and take care of them, but I am certain there are far more that are good and mean well all the time. These guys deal with the worst of society everyday, as far as to the possibility of not coming home from work…ever. You pull a knife on a cop and use it you deserve to be shot. You disobey an order of compliance from an officer you probably are up to no good anyway. If your not up to no good you settle with the PD and be done.

By the way I am no cop, I do however believe it the standards and norms of a grounded stable society and if we need police that enforce rules and laws to maintain that I say do it.

This what I stated that started this whole ridiculous twisted bending by HiCarry. Really come on read it again and again and again and tell me it is related in anyway to what he purports it to mean.

Either you people are so radicalized, militant and. anti LE or just plain looking for a fight I just do not know. Never did I ever make a claim of us giving up our rights to anyone or anything or any whatever. Video of LE…WTF! How did anything I said connect to such a far off topic. Jeeeeez. Is this a radicalized anti government anti LE forum? I may have had a different understanding when I first started hanging out around here. Try as you will to find an enemy, I know my positions and politics and I will stand by them, even when some will try and fabricate a controversy out of nothing at all.

A reason why police may seem to be shooting more is that it could be indicative of an ill society, that has no regard for law or being civil. In this case, the teen runaway should not have stabbed an LEO. Simple. There is a consequence. Additionally, this can also be a case for CCW, because a regular citizen would not respond well to a knife attack while dialing 911.

Just to help you read Ren's post this was what I was +'ing to. OK. I can't believe I need to go this far about this freakin' nuts!

Nailed it Ren!! Yes there are bad cops and we just have to trust the system will find them and take care of them, but I am certain there are far more that are good and mean well all the time. These guys deal with the worst of society everyday, as far as to the possibility of not coming home from work…ever. You pull a knife on a cop and use it you deserve to be shot. You disobey an order of compliance from an officer you probably are up to no good anyway. If your not up to no good you settle with the PD and be done.

By the way I am no cop, I do however believe it the standards and norms of a grounded stable society and if we need police that enforce rules and laws to maintain that I say do it.

"You disobey an order of compliance from an officer you probably are up to no good anyway."  This is the reason for all the strife.

If you violently disobey is one thing.  Respectfully disobeying because you are within your rights is another topic altogether.  It is just the way it sounds, it is lumped all together in one statement, which many people will not agree with.  Was MLK up to no good?  Gandhi?

"You disobey an order of compliance from an officer you probably are up to no good anyway." 

In the context of this thread  When he says compliance I think he means "Drop the knife!!!"
Of course I could be wrong....

"You disobey an order of compliance from an officer you probably are up to no good anyway."  This is the reason for all the strife.

If you violently disobey is one thing.  Respectfully disobeying because you are within your rights is another topic altogether.  It is just the way it sounds, it is lumped all together in one statement, which many people will not agree with.  Was MLK up to no good?  Gandhi?

Come on man, I was speaking in direct relation to the individuals decision to act upon the HPD at Rosevelt High School! Nothing else, absolutely nothing else. Read the post again!! You all seem to want to turn my comment into an all encompassing statement of civil rights and it was in not even formulated  in that way; no way at all. I am truly shocked at the collective narrow minded mis-understanding of my agreement with Ren's statement. MLK, Gandhi, video of LE, open carry? How does all of that get tagged with my simple agreement with what Ren had stated? WTF you guys are looney. Take the context of my text for what it is and not some imagined civil rights infringement justification. This is solely about the Rosevelt High School incident and nothing else; that's it.

So to spell it out for you, cause apparently you cannot determine it yourself, the contact with LE  that I am speaking of would be one brought on due to some sort of criminal act or intent of a crime by a particular individual(s). GET IT???!!! Your freaking kidding me if your really think I would ever think it was OK to have LE just willy nilly stop an individual. There seems to be a great disconnect to the understanding that I never said anything about random unwarranted contacts with PD as related to the decision by the young man that chose to bring a PD contact on himself at Rosevelt High School.

"You disobey an order of compliance from an officer you probably are up to no good anyway." 

In the context of this thread  When he says compliance I think he means "Drop the knife!!!"
Of course I could be wrong....

Finally a sensible understanding

You frickin' public school guys ! ( I'm actually public school too. Go Surfriders. )

Stop spelling it Rosevelt. It's Roosevelt.
have some respect for Teddy. ( Although I'm not sure that's the Roosevelt it's named after. )

You frickin' public school guys ! ( I'm actually public school too. Go Surfriders. )

Stop spelling it Rosevelt. It's Roosevelt.
have some respect for Teddy. ( Although I'm not sure that's the Roosevelt it's named after. )

 

You frickin' public school guys ! ( I'm actually public school too. Go Surfriders. )

Stop spelling it Rosevelt. It's Roosevelt.
have some respect for Teddy. ( Although I'm not sure that's the Roosevelt it's named after. )

My bad Ok it's Roosevelt.
Now lets beat that one to death too!

My bad Ok it's Roosevelt.
Now lets beat that one to death too!

Wow Kekoa, small kine cool your jets. (When's the last time you guys heard that saying  )
It's all in fun.
I was actually ragging Hvy who started the post. 
( Hvy you know it's all in fun )

Wow Kekoa, small kine cool your jets. (When's the last time you guys heard that saying  )
It's all in fun.
I was actually ragging Hvy who started the post. 
( Hvy you know it's all in fun )

Rough Riders = Teddy

Rough Riders = Teddy

Rough Riders = Screamers 

Rough Riders = Screamers 

Rough riders = Eastern Europeans.

Guess they still got that USSR approach

Rough riders = Eastern Europeans.

Guess they still got that USSR approach

Just not happy of the way things are being twisted about what I said Q. I am sure you would feel the same. I do just want to be done with this too.

Just not happy of the way things are being twisted about what I said Q. I am sure you would feel the same. I do just want to be done with this too.

or Aiea i guess

huh.  and there's an okina in 'Aiea

JJKG!

if somebody stabbing me please shoot them k thanks bye. 
(just watched a video of guy hands up in the air but the cops shot him anyways.  don't be that guy)

huh.  and there's an okina in 'Aiea

JJKG!

if somebody stabbing me please shoot them k thanks bye. 
(just watched a video of guy hands up in the air but the cops shot him anyways.  don't be that guy)

You gotta work on that spelling too silly boy

Happy Aloha Friday

Happy Aloha Friday

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