This what I stated that started this whole ridiculous twisted bending by HiCarry. Really come on read it again and again and again and tell me it is related in anyway to what he purports it to mean.
Either you people are so radicalized, militant and. anti LE or just plain looking for a fight I just do not know. Never did I ever make a claim of us giving up our rights to anyone or anything or any whatever. Video of LE…WTF! How did anything I said connect to such a far off topic. Jeeeeez. Is this a radicalized anti government anti LE forum? I may have had a different understanding when I first started hanging out around here. Try as you will to find an enemy, I know my positions and politics and I will stand by them, even when some will try and fabricate a controversy out of nothing at all.
Let me try again, and preference it with two statements. First, I am neither anti LE or a radical, or radicalized, as you put it. Considering I just spent a good deal of time actually working with LE last weekend and as a regular component of my employment, you trying to make such a claim to defend your keyboard tirades are laughable. Second, I truly didn't mean to offend you and weighed in so I could better understand your position. Which I, and at least a few other people on this board interpreted as suggesting law-abiding citizens should give up individual rights in order to "comply" with LE regardless of the situation or circumstances. If you choose to, instead of clarifying your remarks, attack me and suggest that because I question your sentiments I am anti-LE, then that shows more about you and your intolerance to alternate view points than my opinion of LE. And while I am not "...just plain looking for a fight" I won't let what I believe to be bad advice go unchallenged. If you know your positions and politics, clarify them rather than attack anyone you think disagrees with you. I am happy to agree to disagree but don't take kindly to bullying ad hominem attacks by anyone.
Other elements of your statements also caused some confusion and concern, such as (and I paraphrase) "if you ain't doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about." Don't you understand that in a broader context such statements, along with "if you don't have anything to hide you won't mind us searching" are the prelude to government agents depriving you of rights? And that seemingly minor encroachments of our rights, be it detainment, search and seizure, or firearms, is the beginning of the slippery slope? If indeed you meant to say comply only in the context of presenting a deadly threat to an officer, then I have no problem with your somewhat inarticulate and unclear statements. I stand behind the officer's decision to shoot that kid without reservation. I believe that if you raise a knife or gun up to someone, anyone, you deserve to get shot. Period. End of story. If however you want to suggest that someone engaged in any legal activity simply comply with illegal or improper LE commands, just to expedite the conclusion of the encounter, then we disagree. Rights not exercised are lost.