From what I heard I don't agree that the suit should have been against the park director.

I skipped over this thread because I thought it didn't pertain to me as I do not participate in night shoots.  I realize now, that I should show support for any venue whether it be night shooting, skeet, trap, or cowboy action.  I commend Chris on his intestinal fortitude to stand up for my right, whether I chose to participate in them or not.  I also commend him on his maturity on how he handled the "haole" bashing comment.    HiCarry is right.  We need to stick together.

Mahalo,
Jaydawg

Just wanted to chime back in if everything is again copacetic at KHSC.  Was the detailed explanation posted already, or are we to draw it out from the numerous postings? or it is a moot point as the pursuit of other rights, concealed carry in particular, trumps the other issues and again the Government is to blame by taking away our rights?  This tread has gotten somewhat confusing as the posts seem to assume everyone knows what is going on and the people involved, but as far as I know, there still are no night matches and there are bits of information as to what had transpired to ban the use of the range at night. I again appologize for my ignorance or inability to either read between the lines or be a part of the group who are "in the know". In my humble opinion, we talk a lot about the ideals of being unified in our thought, but as far as I can tell there exists a community of people who perhaps share a unified thought and then there exists the rest of us, who for whatever reason at times have no idea what you guys are talking about or reffering to.  Maybe it is our fault for either not being involved or understanding the issues or rights that are being reffered to, thus there are no "simple answers". I again mean no disrespect for my commentary, however as far as I can tell from this tread, the end of the nighttime range use was due inpart to the pursuit of concealed carry in Hawaii and somehow, it was determined (by whom I don't know) that the KHSC was conducting discriminatory practices to the public and a lawsuit was drafted and threatened to the head range master at KHSC, but now, Funtimes met with the guy and all is supposed to be back to business with no discriminatory practices, so all is good?  The end result is KHSC will correct its policy and the night matches will resume?  If this is accurate, then I guess this is the end of this tread. Or again if it is something else that will be revealed when those involved feel it is appropriate, then I guess it is again time to exercise patience and understanding for those who are fighting for our rights?.

Sorry these things don't really move as fast I would like... its like a chess game, but weeks in between moves.  I move -- they wait, and respond.... they move, we wait and respond....  etc.   This is where we are at right now.  I still can't disclose much as we have not settled at this point.

Letter From Director of Parks in Response to Demand

Sorry these things don't really move as fast I would like... its like a chess game, but weeks in between moves.  I move -- they wait, and respond.... they move, we wait and respond....  etc.   This is where we are at right now.  I still can't disclose much as we have not settled at this point.

Letter From Director of Parks in Response to Demand

If you take weeks to make chess moves, I'm never playing chess with you.

Hurry up and move already!!!   

Spoke with the Director today, said this should be fixed by the 15th of this month. We will see!

Spoke with the Director today, said this should be fixed by the 15th of this month. We will see!

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So whats going on with the night match? Weren't u the one responsible for having that privilege stripped fromi mppl? It looks like ur approach was taylored for ur own benefit for ur use of the bay. 

Quote from: Funtimes on July 01, 2011, 09:04:00 PM

Spoke with the Director today, said this should be fixed by the 15th of this month. We will see!

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So whats going on with the night match? Weren't u the one responsible for having that privilege stripped fromi mppl? It looks like ur approach was taylored for ur own benefit for ur use of the bay.

A privilage to only one group is discrination against the rest. 

Quote from: CRglock on November 08, 2011, 12:20:47 PM

Quote from: Funtimes on July 01, 2011, 09:04:00 PM

Spoke with the Director today, said this should be fixed by the 15th of this month. We will see!

.                 

So whats going on with the night match? Weren't u the one responsible for having that privilege stripped fromi mppl? It looks like ur approach was taylored for ur own benefit for ur use of the bay.

A privilage to only one group is discrination against the rest.

+1.  Duh.

C'mom guys!  We may have lost the night match but at least Chris and the fellas at LIFE/HRA are moving the community in a positive direction for all of us.  Let's stay positive and hopefully Chris Baker will be able to set things on an even keel in the future.  It will get better.

Chris, are sponsoring another open shoot.  I missed the last one your organization sponsored due to work.  We are willing to donate some funds to your cause. 

Good luck!

C'mom guys!  We may have lost the night match but at least Chris and the fellas at LIFE/HRA are moving the community in a positive direction for all of us.  Let's stay positive and hopefully Chris Baker will be able to set things on an even keel in the future.  It will get better.

Chris, are sponsoring another open shoot.  I missed the last one your organization sponsored due to work.  We are willing to donate some funds to your cause. 

Good luck!

They should be coming back soon. The Director sent us a letter about two weeks ago saying they are almost finished finalizing their policy for night-shoots and use of park after hours.

That's good news. So you should hear back any day now...

Hey funtimes, when's the next shooting event?

Quote from: vooduchikn on November 08, 2011, 12:29:56 PM

Quote from: CRglock on November 08, 2011, 12:20:47 PM

Quote from: Funtimes on July 01, 2011, 09:04:00 PM

Spoke with the Director today, said this should be fixed by the 15th of this month. We will see!

.                 

So whats going on with the night match? Weren't u the one responsible for having that privilege stripped fromi mppl? It looks like ur approach was taylored for ur own benefit for ur use of the bay.

A privilage to only one group is discrination against the rest.

+1.  Duh.

+2. Duh. duh.

Hey funtimes, when's the next shooting event?

Saturday after Thanksgiving.