Police Officer Answers Why They Need Armored Vehicles (Hint: Not Criminals!) (Read 8180 times)

mauidog

POLICE: ARMORED MILITARY VEHICLES NEEDED FOR ‘CONSTITUTIONALISTS’ STOCKPILING FIREARMS

NOT FOR:
   Riots like in Ferguson and New York
   Gangs in Chicago and LA
   Hostage Situations
   Foreign or Domestic Terrorists like the Boston Marathon Bombers
   Protecting the US/Mexico Border
   School shootings like VA Tech   

An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

oldfart

That video looks faked to me.
If that dude is supposed to be some kind of police or military spokesman at an exhibition of le hardware, then his uniform is way out of spec.
He looks like a homeless guy that bought an army jacket at the goodwill store.
At 29 sec in, note the shoulder patch is not sewn on to the jacket. Looks like it was stuck on with a piece of duct tape.
What, Me Worry?

Drakiir84

They're good for situations like Waco.
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

mauidog

That video looks faked to me.
If that dude is supposed to be some kind of police or military spokesman at an exhibition of le hardware, then his uniform is way out of spec.
He looks like a homeless guy that bought an army jacket at the goodwill store.
At 29 sec in, note the shoulder patch is not sewn on to the jacket. Looks like it was stuck on with a piece of duct tape.

First of all, without having any real information on your side, you tried to discredit whether this was even a Deputy.  WRONG!!

He was a Deputy Sheriff in Spokane Valley, Washington.

Here's the Sheriff's video response. 

So, just to be clear, THIS IS NOT FAKED, and all your conjecture about a homeless guy in a Goodwill Store jacket is 100% made-up BS.



Spokane Police Department Faces Protest Over Sheriff Deputy’s Shocking Comments

http://www.infowars.com/spokane-police-department-faces-protest-over-sheriff-deputys-shocking-comments/
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

oldfart

First of all, without having any real information on your side, you tried to discredit whether this was even a Deputy.  WRONG!!

He was a Deputy Sheriff in Spokane Valley, Washington.

Here's the Sheriff's video response. 

So, just to be clear, THIS IS NOT FAKED, and all your conjecture about a homeless guy in a Goodwill Store jacket is 100% made-up BS.



Spokane Police Department Faces Protest Over Sheriff Deputy’s Shocking Comments

http://www.infowars.com/spokane-police-department-faces-protest-over-sheriff-deputys-shocking-comments/
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Ok maui, relax. We're supposed to be on the same team, right?
We all know, or should know by now that the internet is full of fake stuff.
Even videos can be modified with computer graphics to show incredible events that never occurred.
A picture is not worth a thousand words any more. That is why I try to meet as many forum members as possible in person.
Any one of the people I have met will tell you that I do not throw out random internet bs, unless it's a joke.

I suggest that you should have posted the rebuttal video along with the first video so we can all get a more complete picture.
That would have made a lot of sense.

It was sad to watch the Chief apologizing for his dumbass deputy.

Obviously that deputy was not very professional.
His uniform was sloppy and I still think his shoulder patch was held on with duct tape.
If you examine the video it looks like the jacket material is creased under the patch which would indicate that it wasn't sewn on.
And btw, I never said he was a homeless guy from a goodwill store.
I said he LOOKS like a homeless guy...etc....ie. not very professional.
Ok?
What, Me Worry?

mauidog

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Ok maui, relax. We're supposed to be on the same team, right?
We all know, or should know by now that the internet is full of fake stuff.
Even videos can be modified with computer graphics to show incredible events that never occurred.
A picture is not worth a thousand words any more. That is why I try to meet as many forum members as possible in person.
Any one of the people I have met will tell you that I do not throw out random internet bs, unless it's a joke.

I suggest that you should have posted the rebuttal video along with the first video so we can all get a more complete picture.
That would have made a lot of sense.

It was sad to watch the Chief apologizing for his dumbass deputy.

Obviously that deputy was not very professional.
His uniform was sloppy and I still think his shoulder patch was held on with duct tape.
If you examine the video it looks like the jacket material is creased under the patch which would indicate that it wasn't sewn on.
And btw, I never said he was a homeless guy from a goodwill store.
I said he LOOKS like a homeless guy...etc....ie. not very professional.
Ok?

I am relaxed.  Sorry if it seemed I was jumping on you.  I kind of was, but in a constructive "don't be too lazy to Google before you post" kind of way.   :D

I see other people on here get grief for posting unsupported comments -- sometimes playing devil's advocate, but often just making up crap based on their version of logic and a whole boat-load of assumptions, and all with the apparent intention to be plain argumentative.

You have every right to jump to your own conclusion based on nothing more than the 47 second video clip and your evaluation of it.  But if you take the time to post those conclusions in a public forum, don't feel picked on if you find out everything you posted was incorrect.  The only reason I didn't post the second video before was I had not FOUND it until I saw what you posted.  I had read who the Deputy was, but only after researching further did I see the Alex Jones page point to the Sheriff's video. 

Yes, we are all on the same side here.  As such, I think we should all take time to research and validate our information and conclusions before we post them.  I try to take some time to Google what other people post.  Quite a few times, I find the things people posted as fact turn out to be satire or total fiction from some whack job with an agenda and too much time on their hands!

Since you made this a point, you said "Looks like a homeless guy".  I said " your conjecture about a homeless guy in a Goodwill Store jacket".  I believe "conjecture" is pretty much how you said it.  I fail to see any argument there.

Anyway, since we ARE on the same team, I PERSONALLY would hold off on posting something that discredits someone else's post without facts to back it up.  Casting doubt without providing substantiation is not helpful to the team.

This is, of course, my opinion only.  I'm just hoping to explain why I thought your labeling the video as fake was, in a word, wrong.  Imagine if I had not corrected your conclusions.  Others reading your comments might believe your take on it -- and they would also be wrong.  What useful purpose would that serve?

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An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

causa mortis

I guess these metal monstrosities are made for me, then. I'm a constitutionalists and I'm stockpiling weapons and ammo.

z06psi

Sheriff is arrogant and stupid.  I don't trust him because he is a politician now instead of a law enforcement officer.  Kind of like Kealoha.  Anything to save their own neck and power.   That deputy heard that somewhere in his training and repeated it.  Pure and simple.

Newb

I am especially impressed by him trying to discredit the reporter vs clarifying the real reason they need it. That was pretty good.

eyeeatingfish

Sheriff is arrogant and stupid.  I don't trust him because he is a politician now instead of a law enforcement officer.  Kind of like Kealoha.  Anything to save their own neck and power.   That deputy heard that somewhere in his training and repeated it.  Pure and simple.

How do you arrive at such a conclusion? The sherrif makes a calm and thought out reply to the issue. He articulates the facts in an easy to understand way. He provides his opinion on the matter separately from the presentation of the facts. He addresses the issue instead of avoiding it by making some vague statement of the issue being "under investigation" or "no comment." This is probably the best way the sheriff could have addressed the issue in my opinion.

How would you have addressed it differently if you were the sheriff?

z06psi

How do you arrive at such a conclusion? The sherrif makes a calm and thought out reply to the issue. He articulates the facts in an easy to understand way. He provides his opinion on the matter separately from the presentation of the facts. He addresses the issue instead of avoiding it by making some vague statement of the issue being "under investigation" or "no comment." This is probably the best way the sheriff could have addressed the issue in my opinion.

How would you have addressed it differently if you were the sheriff?

He should have only addressed his responsibility as the Chief.  His Officer's words or actions.  Who cares about the reporter.  To try to shift blame in a response is not the thing to do.  Take responsibility and act on the video evidence. 

1. You lay down ground rules when acting in an official capacity.  I am a professional Soldier and we are taught this.
2. If you or one of your officers screw up by saying the wrong thing then they are held accountable.  Don't bring up the officers service record.  The officer still screwed up or at least let the cat out of the bag.  I am sure some of their training has led to this.

Arrogant and stupid response.

eyeeatingfish

He should have only addressed his responsibility as the Chief.  His Officer's words or actions.  Who cares about the reporter.  To try to shift blame in a response is not the thing to do.  Take responsibility and act on the video evidence. 

1. You lay down ground rules when acting in an official capacity.  I am a professional Soldier and we are taught this.
2. If you or one of your officers screw up by saying the wrong thing then they are held accountable.  Don't bring up the officers service record.  The officer still screwed up or at least let the cat out of the bag.  I am sure some of their training has led to this.

Arrogant and stupid response.

I think I would agree, that if I were the sheriff I would leave my personal opinions out of a video response however I would still mention the reporting on the video. I would explain how the reporter took the comment out of context and I would tell the truth on the matter of the armored car so as to answer the public's questions on the issue.

I do understand how the officers are responsible for comments made while in uniform though.

z06psi

An easy fix for the sheriff to do is play 5 mins before and 5 mins after and then take the appropriate action to ensure people got the story and would move on with whatever punishment was doled out.  Getting defensive on a comment like that just makes matters worse.