Thanks for all the replies! I was asking about both #4 Buck and #4 bird shot. Either would a possible option. I have other guns for home defense but I would rather not kill my neighbor if I ever needed to let off a few rounds.
Home defense we're looking at a range of 10-15 feet so either would be good. So at that range even #9 bird shot would put a hole in the target almost like a slug. I don't want it to pass through the wall of my house with any real killing force. That's why I'm not looking for 00 buck or slugs.
I was told that non lethal maybe illegal due to the fact that people may shoot a perp simply because they know it wouldn't kill, but cause pain.
Not sure about why certain things are illegal here, in communist Hawaii??
I'm hoping they will start to allow open carry here like the rest of AMERICA!
Again Thank you for the reply!