Empty Holster Protest (Read 36495 times)

Heavies

Re: Empty Holster Protest
« Reply #60 on: January 03, 2016, 08:38:15 AM »
We can stick to the sidewalk for sign waving.

aieahound

Re: Empty Holster Protest
« Reply #61 on: January 03, 2016, 09:49:02 AM »
I'm in.

But I kind of like the ccw/open carry theme.
When seconds count, police are only minutes away.

If we protest to support the 2nd Amendment we're not advancing anything. Just playing defense.
What else are they gonna ban in Hawaii.
Background checks for all gun sales ? Check. We already have it.
10 round mag limit for handguns ? Check. We already have it.
No gun violence ? Check. We don't have almost any.
"Assault weapons" ban ?  10 round mag limit period ? Damn there's an area of concern that could fall under the general 2A flag.
What's coming up on the legislative agenda ? Any anti-2A bills we can protest ?
Just my 2 cent opinion.

I don't know what others think and I'm on board with whatever whoever organizes this decides.

Main thing we don't shoot ourselves in the foot with backlash whatever we decide.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2016, 10:58:09 AM by aieahound »

edster48

Re: Empty Holster Protest
« Reply #62 on: January 03, 2016, 11:41:27 AM »
I'm in.

But I kind of like the ccw/open carry theme.
When seconds count, police are only minutes away.

If we protest to support the 2nd Amendment we're not advancing anything. Just playing defense.
.

Main thing we don't shoot ourselves in the foot with backlash whatever we decide.

You can put whatever you want on your sign or banner, it all falls under the 2nd Amendment. For that matter just show up to protest the infringement of ALL of our Constitutional rights by our government!

Pardon me but, F*ck the "backlash". It's time to go on offense and stop losing our rights inch by inch.

I say we be as "offensive" as legally possible.  8)
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aieahound

Re: Empty Holster Protest
« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2016, 11:47:55 AM »
You can put whatever you want on your sign or banner, it all falls under the 2nd Amendment. For that matter just show up to protest the infringement of ALL of our Constitutional rights by our government!

Pardon me but, F*ck the "backlash". It's time to go on offense and stop losing our rights inch by inch.

I say we be as "offensive" as legally possible.  8)

I hear ya.
And I'll show up.

But what are we protesting ?
How we gonna protest the infringement of all our Rights ?
We're gonna look like a group of anti-government crazies. Which we're not as far as I know.

Idealism is admirable. But realism can be successful.

As far as 2A ? Does anyone know of any 2A restriction bills planned for this legislative session ?
Because then we could put some focus to this.
Otherwise we're just standing there asking them not to change anything.

Are we gonna shotgun this thing and try to get all our rights back with a symbolic Hail Mary.
Or are we gonna aim with some precision and try to get one Right back that we should already have.
And win our Rights back inch by inch.

I still say CCW should be the focus.
And you're right. Anyone can put anything they want on their sign.
But United we stand.......

And backlash can be a Bitch...
« Last Edit: January 03, 2016, 12:24:02 PM by aieahound »

Heavies

Re: Empty Holster Protest
« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2016, 04:11:32 PM »
I can personally say that I've seen a major shift in Hawai'i's firearm attitude, compared to December 2012.

More people are saying that people should be able to arm themselves,
More people are semi to strongly pro-gun,
More people are putting less faith in HPD to protect them, and would rather protect themselves.

Maybe it's time to organize that mass CCW application we had always hoped for, and then make our way down to the state capitol with our drill holsters and signs.

It's obvious the news stations will show up, so why not go for it now when people actually care about it, rather than when people don't or are scared by the establishment to believe the opposite.

My FB page Hawaii CCW Initiative has been steadily growing since Feb 2015.  Many applications have been submitted, and I hope, turned in to the HRA.  I was thinking about doing an other mass effort in Feb this year as an annual thing.  Sooner could happen.?.?

www.facebook.com/hawaiiCCWdrive

I hear ya.
And I'll show up.

But what are we protesting ?
How we gonna protest the infringement of all our Rights ?
We're gonna look like a group of anti-government crazies. Which we're not as far as I know.

Idealism is admirable. But realism can be successful.

As far as 2A ? Does anyone know of any 2A restriction bills planned for this legislative session ?
Because then we could put some focus to this.
Otherwise we're just standing there asking them not to change anything.

Are we gonna shotgun this thing and try to get all our rights back with a symbolic Hail Mary.
Or are we gonna aim with some precision and try to get one Right back that we should already have.
And win our Rights back inch by inch.

I still say CCW should be the focus.
And you're right. Anyone can put anything they want on their sign.
But United we stand.......

And backlash can be a Bitch...

There are a bunch that will be turned over from last session and new ones guaranteed.  I would think this would be to let "them" know that we are here to stay and not willing to budge on the issue.  By being proactive might give them pause in introducing new infringements.

Any specific protest would have to come after introduction of certain infringement bills, I would suppose.

Heavies

Re: Empty Holster Protest
« Reply #65 on: January 03, 2016, 04:16:33 PM »
Spotted...  Lowe's and Walmart....

Had to do some errands and shopping.  Seen a few old friends.  Got a few looks, but nothing like people where alarmed. 



MauiLeatherwork

Re: Empty Holster Protest
« Reply #66 on: January 03, 2016, 05:36:10 PM »
Thank you for sharing your thoughts about blue guns. I think I will opt for an empty leather holster rather than a screw gun.  If I could join you on the 20th, I would. But I'll have to wear my empty holster on Maui.  Hope it goes well and you have a large attendance.

edster48

Re: Empty Holster Protest
« Reply #67 on: January 03, 2016, 07:51:02 PM »
My FB page Hawaii CCW Initiative has been steadily growing since Feb 2015.  Many applications have been submitted, and I hope, turned in to the HRA.  I was thinking about doing an other mass effort in Feb this year as an annual thing.  Sooner could happen.?.?

www.facebook.com/hawaiiCCWdrive

There are a bunch that will be turned over from last session and new ones guaranteed.  I would think this would be to let "them" know that we are here to stay and not willing to budge on the issue.  By being proactive might give them pause in introducing new infringements.

Any specific protest would have to come after introduction of certain infringement bills, I would suppose.



I would say that a-hound is correct, we should focus on CCW/open carry, constitutional carry. In other words, less infringement. Dumbguns empty holster protest should be an integral part of this, to show that law abiding citizens are being left defenseless against armed adversaries.

I think we can count on the Obamatons in the legislature to introduce bills in line with the ideals of the POSTUS this year. We will also probably see some type of bill to change the medical requirements regarding registration due to the Kaiser issue.

I think we should make the Feb. CCW application drive a yearly thing until such a time as a "Shall Issue" law is passed.
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Re: Empty Holster Protest
« Reply #68 on: January 03, 2016, 10:29:30 PM »
The last time we tried this, like 6 people showed up.  The previous time, we had a good turnout, but that was in conjunction with a national movement, as I recall.

There isn't sufficient time to get a permit, so we'll have to stick to the sidewalks, I think. 

As far as a theme, I think "We support the 2nd amendment, and expect you too as well" is good. 
 

Yes, approx 200 first time with Guns Across America and then the handful of us the second.  There was a couple new people that showed up, we took a picture but it's never been published.  Now look Dumgbun standing alone.  That's the spirit!

Heavies too -  "and so it begins"  :D   :shaka:
« Last Edit: January 03, 2016, 10:38:00 PM by Aiea78 »
Assault Rifle? What I have here is an Anti-Assault Rifle.
Proud Member 2016 2a Day Dozen open holster carry crew yo

Dumbgun

Re: Empty Holster Protest
« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2016, 10:11:23 AM »
Spotted...  Lowe's and Walmart....

Had to do some errands and shopping.  Seen a few old friends.  Got a few looks, but nothing like people where alarmed. 




Thanks brother! I don't feel so alone now and a bit saner. Semper Fi.