Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ *** (Read 33745 times)

passivekinetic

Re: Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ ***
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2016, 02:05:43 PM »
Well, I'm not sure that poll takes into account the possibility of Trump stealing votes away from Cruz, if Trump goes independent.

That's the big concern.

Anyway out of our hands now. Let's see who gets nominated.
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Jl808

Re: Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ ***
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2016, 02:44:45 PM »
Thanks to all who showed up and voted yesterday.
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passivekinetic

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nsainfreek

Re: Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ ***
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2016, 11:17:54 PM »
I'm just wondering why people here support trump. Because he will get rid of Isis and terrorists in the US is not valid since he has not laid out any reasonable plan to do this. Just saying you're going to bomb the hell out of them is not a strategy. Sure being on the Republican ticket, he probably is more pro 2nd amendment than the dems but are you really going to vote for commander in chief of the US based on 1 policy? At that, it's 1 policy that you aren't even really sure that he supports since trump changes his mind all the time. My thoughts are that he is an unreliable loose cannon that is unpredictable and most likely running for his own selfish gains. Those assuming that a Clinton presidency will lead to mandatory gun buybacks...didn't they say the same thing about Obama?

zippz

Re: Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ ***
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2016, 11:27:27 PM »
The biggest thing Trump has going is he is strong in economics.  I'd rate the economy and debt as higher priorities than defense.  If the nation has no money to pay the military, then there is no military.

nsainfreek

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« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2016, 11:53:27 PM »
The biggest thing Trump has going is he is strong in economics.  I'd rate the economy and debt as higher priorities than defense.  If the nation has no money to pay the military, then there is no military.

How is he strong in economics? I believe his comprehension of international macroeconomics is limited and his temperament makes it downright dangerous. If you believe is he an excellent business man then you need to delve deeper into his business activities. He consistently touts his wealth and his business acumen with little substation except "i'm doing very well."

Inspector

Re: Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ ***
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2016, 05:40:15 AM »
In my opinion there is more to all this than just supporting one policy. He has actually come out with a few policies on his website. I agree with most of what he proposes. I still would not normally vote for him. But I will because he will be the Republican candidate. Not because of his policies. It does scare me that we don't know what he is going to be like when he gets in office. I will vote for him because I would rather take a chance with him than to vote for that lying, criminal, murderer Hilary or the known Socialist Bernie. We already know what Hilary and Bernie are going to do if either one gets into office. She and Bernie ARE that bad that I feel the need to take the chance with Trump hopefully to change the direction this country is going in with a Democrat president. It really is a matter of all of the Democrat policies that I despise that puts me into the position of wanting to take a chance with Trump. Everyone says at least Hilary and Bernie are known entities. We know what they are going to do. And that is the point in all of this. We know what they are going to do. We got a taste of it with our current president. We know they will continue with the direction we are currently going. Or worse if Bernie gets in IMHO. So that is why I am going to vote for Trump. Not because he is great, but because the other choice is really really that BAD. JMHO
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Inspector

Re: Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ ***
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2016, 05:49:28 AM »
...Those assuming that a Clinton presidency will lead to mandatory gun buybacks...didn't they say the same thing about Obama?
If my memory is correct, and in this case I believe it is, the Democrats with their usual lies (including Barrack Hussein Obama) that Obama is not coming for our guns and that he won't even try to enact any type of gun control. Well we know by recent history that was all lies. He tried quite a bit to enact some forms of gun control. So from my memory, that is what they said and lied about. Like everyone else here, we cannot predict the future. We don't know if Hilary is going to enact gun buy backs. If she says she is going to then I take her at her word. If she says she is not I won't believe her because her actions and words in the past are just the opposite. The problem with Barrack Hussein Obama was that he was not around long enough for us to know exactly how he was going to act. Very much like Trump. So anyone who voted for Barrack Hussein Obama and says they won't vote for Trump because of the unknown and how the will act is being a hypocrite because Barrack Hussein Obama had little more experience than Trump when he was elected. JMHO
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nsainfreek

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« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2016, 07:16:55 AM »
If my memory is correct, and in this case I believe it is, the Democrats with their usual lies (including Barrack Hussein Obama) that Obama is not coming for our guns and that he won't even try to enact any type of gun control. Well we know by recent history that was all lies. He tried quite a bit to enact some forms of gun control. So from my memory, that is what they said and lied about. Like everyone else here, we cannot predict the future. We don't know if Hilary is going to enact gun buy backs. If she says she is going to then I take her at her word. If she says she is not I won't believe her because her actions and words in the past are just the opposite. The problem with Barrack Hussein Obama was that he was not around long enough for us to know exactly how he was going to act. Very much like Trump. So anyone who voted for Barrack Hussein Obama and says they won't vote for Trump because of the unknown and how the will act is being a hypocrite because Barrack Hussein Obama had little more experience than Trump when he was elected. JMHO

What Obama did is up for interpretation. Technically, he can't enact any gun control laws, that is done by the power of Congress but he does hold great influence on what his party attempts to pass through the House and Senate. After several mass shootings he did push for universal background checks and several other measures that were immediately stripped from any bill. Whether you interpret Universal Background Checks as a from of gun control is also up for debate. Anything that was voted on was crushed in both houses of Congress. In fact, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, a gun control advocacy group, graded Obama with an F for his stance on gun control.

True, that Obama was relatively new to politics but I don't believe a vote for him is akin to voting for the unknown Trump. Obama made some policies clear on what he was pushing for. And yes, with any politician, he reversed course on some when he entered office and those are pinned as his lies (e.g. healthcare reform). But Trump isn't just unknown he's unpredictable. He policies change from day to day. I'll admit that I am guilty of not reading the policies on his website, but my concern is what's the point? What I read as his policy could change the very next day depending on who's he giving a speech to.

I'm not advocating anyone vote for Hilary if you don't like her policies, I don't like her either. I just can't stand trump. He's an egotistical, misogynistic ass that does whatever he wants. He's beholden to no principles or ethics. Him running for president has already given the US a worse image in the world, let alone if he wins. I can't imagine feeding someone's ego further by giving him the presidency. But that's just my opinion. I have no idea who to vote for. I'm just real curious why people here support Trump. 

macsak

Re: Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ ***
« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2016, 07:36:26 AM »
True, that Obama was relatively new to politics but I don't believe a vote for him is akin to voting for the unknown Trump. Obama made some policies clear on what he was pushing for. And yes, with any politician, he reversed course on some when he entered office and those are pinned as his lies (e.g. healthcare reform).

his lies are pinned to him?
not even
the press and all the left/progressives and even much of the middle are still in awe of the great black/white hope
just like benghazi and the server are not pinned to hillary
 :wtf:

macsak

Re: Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ ***
« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2016, 07:42:04 AM »
I just can't stand trump. He's an egotistical, misogynistic ass that does whatever he wants. He's beholden to no principles or ethics. Him running for president has already given the US a worse image in the world, let alone if he wins. I can't imagine feeding someone's ego further by giving him the presidency. But that's just my opinion. I have no idea who to vote for. I'm just real curious why people here support Trump.

take out the word "misogynistic" and replace "trump" with "obama" and those are words ring true with many here

a couple of the best descriptions i have heard about the president are "intellectually lazy" and "everything is awesome!"
just think of those phrases whenever you think about the president making a speech or a decision
one i applied myself in reference to the golden child is "bitter beer face"

macsak

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« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2016, 07:44:37 AM »
What Obama did is up for interpretation. Technically, he can't enact any gun control laws, that is done by the power of Congress but he does hold great influence on what his party attempts to pass through the House and Senate. After several mass shootings he did push for universal background checks and several other measures that were immediately stripped from any bill. Whether you interpret Universal Background Checks as a from of gun control is also up for debate. Anything that was voted on was crushed in both houses of Congress. In fact, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, a gun control advocacy group, graded Obama with an F for his stance on gun control.

on many issues, not only gun control, his excellency tried to evade congress by issuing executive orders
all the while crying that the R's "don't want to compromise"

nsainfreek

Re: Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ ***
« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2016, 08:00:32 AM »
Look, I get that a lot of people on here don't like Obama. I'm not trying to debate his failures or policies. That would take a whole different thread. My curiosity is really trump. Heck, Trump may turn out to be the most anti-gun president ever. You never know....

passivekinetic

Re: Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ ***
« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2016, 08:05:39 AM »
Le'ts say you got some terrible illness and you are going to die in maybe a few years.

The doctor gives you 4 types of pills to take:

Clinton: You will die sooner, and then your friends will die too but a bit later
Sanders: You will die sooner and everyone you know will die along with you at the same time
Independent Pill: Nothing happens, whether you take it or not, and your illness is not cured
Trump: Doctor says this one has a chance to work and save your life but no guarantees

Which one you gonna take?

By the way, the Doc said there are other pills that are guaranteed to cure you immediately, but they stopped making them because people weren't buying them (people are generally ignorant). So you can't buy them anymore.
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Heavies

Re: Why you must vote for TRUMP on Tuesday *** PLEASE READ ***
« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2016, 08:19:59 AM »
I'm just wondering why people here support trump. Because he will get rid of Isis and terrorists in the US is not valid since he has not laid out any reasonable plan to do this. Just saying you're going to bomb the hell out of them is not a strategy. Sure being on the Republican ticket, he probably is more pro 2nd amendment than the dems but are you really going to vote for commander in chief of the US based on 1 policy? At that, it's 1 policy that you aren't even really sure that he supports since trump changes his mind all the time. My thoughts are that he is an unreliable loose cannon that is unpredictable and most likely running for his own selfish gains. Those assuming that a Clinton presidency will lead to mandatory gun buybacks...didn't they say the same thing about Obama?
I will vote trump for your very reason you are hesitant.  I'll take "you never know" over guarantee loss of our rights.....    His wild card unpredictability is a advantage in all areas of concern, IMO.  That will give people, even our enemies, a pause.  This country needs a change, and that is exactly what he is, a huge departure from the status quo politics.

Every one who attempts to protect the status quo  hates him...

1. media
2. democrats
3. republicans

He must be doing something right....

passivekinetic

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« Reply #56 on: May 22, 2016, 08:41:36 AM »
I'm just wondering why people here support trump. Because he will get rid of Isis and terrorists in the US is not valid since he has not laid out any reasonable plan to do this. Just saying you're going to bomb the hell out of them is not a strategy. Sure being on the Republican ticket, he probably is more pro 2nd amendment than the dems but are you really going to vote for commander in chief of the US based on 1 policy? At that, it's 1 policy that you aren't even really sure that he supports since trump changes his mind all the time. My thoughts are that he is an unreliable loose cannon that is unpredictable and most likely running for his own selfish gains. Those assuming that a Clinton presidency will lead to mandatory gun buybacks...didn't they say the same thing about Obama?

You may be underestimating or even overlooking the effect that millions of people had on Obama, to cause a DELAY on the buyback. There were countless actions taken, including buying tons of guns and ammo (they called it the Obama stimulus), tons of media articles, posts, YouTubes, etc. etc. etc. and that could have given the administration pause.
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omnigun

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« Reply #57 on: May 22, 2016, 09:18:00 AM »
The only reason why we are not all armed with butter knives because of obama is that we controlled  congress and the house.  Now if shillery wins the bid and there is ANY change in the house or congress you can bet its all over for us. 

nsainfreek

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« Reply #58 on: May 22, 2016, 09:50:30 AM »
Wow, I'm sorry I asked. This is a lot of hyperbole and assumption on what the left candidates will do. I'm checking out of this thread. Thanks for the insight. Btw, a lot of people don't like trump just because he's an ass, not because of his policies, which again, are none.

oldfart

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« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2016, 11:38:00 AM »
Wow, I'm sorry I asked. This is a lot of hyperbole and assumption on what the left candidates will do. I'm checking out of this thread. Thanks for the insight. Btw, a lot of people don't like trump just because he's an ass, not because of his policies, which again, are none.
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