Hawaii Guns (Read 33070 times)

oldfart

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2016, 04:24:43 PM »
Haha me too. I kind of want to get that back stretcher now.

DVR says next replay is next Saturday 6:30pm.
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Next Saturday 4/30 at 630pm on KHNL.
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oldfart

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2016, 04:54:10 PM »
I tried recording it last night but ended up they screwed up and played an infomercial.
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I don't know what you recorded but I'm pretty sure it was the wrong channel.
What, Me Worry?

dogman

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2016, 05:22:43 PM »
I tried recording it last night but ended up they screwed up and played an infomercial.
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I don't know what you recorded but I'm pretty sure it was the wrong channel.
I got an infomercial too. I learned from past experiences on weekends around news time to record the shows before and after the program I want... just in case... so I got Hawaii Guns a half hour later. It portrayed gun ownership as a negative, unnecessary  >:(.

Inspector

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2016, 06:16:05 PM »
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I don't know what you recorded but I'm pretty sure it was the wrong channel.
Right channel, right time, right program. Recorded back stretching infomercial. I have it set to record again next Saturday. Same bat time, same bat channel.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

oldfart

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2016, 06:47:01 PM »
Right channel, right time, right program. Recorded back stretching infomercial. I have it set to record again next Saturday. Same bat time, same bat channel.
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Fyi, the back stretcher thing was at 6:00 pm
Matt levi was at 630pm.
I don't know anything about those DVR things. You actually put in a time to start??

It supposed to show again next week on a different channel.
What, Me Worry?

Jl808

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2016, 07:23:47 PM »
The HT DVR channel guide shows the program info and time. You just select "Record Episode" and it records the program for you. It's likely that the channel guide had the wrong time info.
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Inspector

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2016, 07:25:41 PM »
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Fyi, the back stretcher thing was at 6:00 pm
Matt levi was at 630pm.
I don't know anything about those DVR things. You actually put in a time to start??

It supposed to show again next week on a different channel.
My DVR was set to record the Levi show and it said it did record the Levi show from 6:30-7:00. When I set my DVR to record I set it to record the show. I don't put in the time.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

oldfart

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2016, 08:24:40 PM »
My DVR was set to record the Levi show and it said it did record the Levi show from 6:30-7:00. When I set my DVR to record I set it to record the show. I don't put in the time.
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That's what I was thinking.
Try again next Saturday on KHNL at 630pm
What, Me Worry?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2016, 12:02:52 AM »
Are you saying that all sworn LEOs have a de facto CCW license? Can you cite any statutory language?

The law allows them to carry off duty. Their policies require them to.

Here is the statute that allows cops to carry firearms off duty, have short barreled rifles, have silencers, magazines greater than 10 rounds, etc.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0011.htm

punaperson

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2016, 07:26:36 AM »
The law allows them to carry off duty. Their policies require them to.

Here is the statute that allows cops to carry firearms off duty, have short barreled rifles, have silencers, magazines greater than 10 rounds, etc.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0011.htm
Thanks.  :shaka:

HiCarry

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2016, 09:47:23 AM »
It is NOT required.
It is required....they are supposed to have their firearm, credentials, and handcuffs with them all the time. Of course certain activities, like surfing or drinking may preclude them carrying, and in general the directive is not well enforced, but it is a requirement.

HiCarry

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2016, 09:55:02 AM »
I wonder how many CCW permits the AG office has issued, Considering they are the Chiefe law enforcement office on the State level.
The AG cannot issue CCWs, only the Chiefs of Police for the respective counties have the statutory authority to do that.

punaperson

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2016, 02:29:11 PM »
The AG cannot issue CCWs, only the Chiefs of Police for the respective counties have the statutory authority to do that.
Speaking of statutory authority, perhaps you can tell me under what statutory authority the Kauai police chiefs issued two CCW licenses, one in 2006 for six months and one in 2013 for nine days, given that “§134-9  Licenses to carry.  (a) Unless renewed, the license shall expire one year from the date of issue.” It's going on three months since I filed my formal request for an answer to that question from the Kauai PD and chief and they told me two weeks ago to "be patient". Seems like a simple question that the issuing authority would be able to cite/quote immediately: "I derive my discretionary authority to determine the term of a CCW license via HRS xxx-x."  :stopjack:

hispdvic

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2016, 03:17:19 PM »
The law allows them to carry off duty. Their policies require them to.

Here is the statute that allows cops to carry firearms off duty, have short barreled rifles, have silencers, magazines greater than 10 rounds, etc.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0011.htm

Per the HPD policies, the barrel length on the long guns and shotguns for the officers has to be 16" or longer, no silencers are allowed, only the swat officers are allowed to carry the Dept/Swat issued short barreled Ar's and shotguns. The only firearms that they had with suppressors were the MP-5's that they used to have.
The AG's office handles the LEOSA permits.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2016, 11:54:15 PM »
Per the HPD policies, the barrel length on the long guns and shotguns for the officers has to be 16" or longer, no silencers are allowed, only the swat officers are allowed to carry the Dept/Swat issued short barreled Ar's and shotguns. The only firearms that they had with suppressors were the MP-5's that they used to have.
The AG's office handles the LEOSA permits.

Yeah, on the guns for work use. It doesn't say hey can't have these weapons at all, just not work use I believe.

Surf

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2016, 08:08:15 AM »
Per the HPD policies, the barrel length on the long guns and shotguns for the officers has to be 16" or longer, no silencers are allowed, only the swat officers are allowed to carry the Dept/Swat issued short barreled Ar's and shotguns. The only firearms that they had with suppressors were the MP-5's that they used to have.
The AG's office handles the LEOSA permits.
The MP5SD's still exist and are not the only suppressed weapons utilized, there are also suppressed bolt rifles.

Yeah, on the guns for work use. It doesn't say hey can't have these weapons at all, just not work use I believe.
It is only policy and not law that restricts the use for duty and departmentally owned weapons.  For private ownership, it is the same process.

HiCarry

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2016, 10:03:21 AM »
Speaking of statutory authority, perhaps you can tell me under what statutory authority the Kauai police chiefs issued two CCW licenses, one in 2006 for six months and one in 2013 for nine days, given that “§134-9  Licenses to carry.  (a) Unless renewed, the license shall expire one year from the date of issue.” It's going on three months since I filed my formal request for an answer to that question from the Kauai PD and chief and they told me two weeks ago to "be patient". Seems like a simple question that the issuing authority would be able to cite/quote immediately: "I derive my discretionary authority to determine the term of a CCW license via HRS xxx-x."  :stopjack:
Why would you think I know where the Chief thinks he gets his authority? I have no idea....

Rocky

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #57 on: April 26, 2016, 11:01:46 AM »
Why would you think I know where the Chief thinks he gets his authority? I have no idea....

 Kauai Police Commission  :shake:
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dustoff003

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2016, 08:19:23 PM »
Continuing discussion here with the video..... GUNS IN HAWAII... MATT investigates
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=23035


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