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841gun

My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« on: May 11, 2016, 10:22:59 PM »
Hello All, This post is in response to an earlier one that was posted in review. 

Please allow my to chime in.  "Riiiinnnnggg"  I saw the post in "Reviews" and strongly feel that it should be posted here.  Some of you know that I review firearms so I hope that you guys will trust my information on this one.

I took the NRA Instructors Class from Darin and thought I had a pretty good friendship with him.  He was a great mentor.  Anytime I had a question on training or needed a form to fill out he was there to help.  I ended up helping him with a class of about 20 students for a Basic Pistol Class in June 2015.

On March 10,2015, as the sales recpeit says below I paid partial cash for a powder order.  After little over a year no powder and no refund.

After multiple attempts through facebook and texting throughout 2015 I let him know that if I didnt get my money back or the powder I would take him to small claims court.  A week later I got the money order from him that is pictured below.  The date I gave him the money was on 03/10/2015.  The money order date you ask?  I just got it in the mail.  4/12/2016 to be exact.

My apologies this is not the whole story.  He did answer me via text message and facebook. The first time 1. that the order had been misplaced or stolen.  Second and 3rd time that the distribution centers he was going through did not have supply.  I will not remove this post.  It should not have taken 1 year to see the powder order or even for a refund.






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ren

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2016, 10:25:25 PM »
maybe they should change their name to Hawaii Off Target?  ???
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GlockNewb

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2016, 10:36:51 PM »
All legit business run their payments through Western Union, right?
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Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2016, 10:51:08 PM »
Quote from: 841gun on May 11, 2016, 10:22:59 PM
Hello All,

Please allow my to chime in.  "Riiiinnnnggg"  I saw the post in "Reviews" and strongly fell that it should be posted here.  Some of you know that I review firearms so I hope that you guys will trust my information on this one.

I took the NRA Instructors Class from Darin and thought I had a pretty good friendship with him.  He was a great mentor.  Anytime I had a question on training or needed a form to fill out he was there to help.  I ended up helping him with a class of about 20 students for a Basic Pistol Class.

Somewhere time before or after that he said he was going to put a powder order in and I gave him cash.  I have attached a picture of the receipt.  For almost a year I waited  for this order.  It never came.  I posted here on 2a if anyone had any dealings with that order.  Some people say they got their money back some said they are still waiting.

 After multiple attempts through facebook and texting i finally let him know that if I didnt get my money back or the powder I would take him to small claims court.  A week later I got a money order from him.  I have attached that picture below as well.  The date I have him the money was on 03/10/2015.  The money order date you ask?  I just got it in the mail in April.  4/12/2016 to be exact.

I have other dealings with him that involve investing money into his store but as it can be considered as hearsay I will not mention them here.  Please all be careful when dealing with him.


That's not the entire story Russell.  Please remove this post.
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paka808

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2016, 11:02:32 PM »
Quote from: ren on May 11, 2016, 10:25:25 PM
maybe they should change their name to Hawaii Off Target?  ???
Hawaii target your money  :rofl:
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dustoff003

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2016, 11:04:16 PM »
Quote from: Hawaii On Target on May 11, 2016, 10:51:08 PM

That's not the entire story Russell.  Please remove this post.
The interwebs are forever
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ren

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2016, 11:09:23 PM »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2016, 11:22:30 PM »
13 months for a refund.

28 minutes and 9 seconds for a response to a negative forum post.

 :rofl:
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GlockNewb

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2016, 11:27:09 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on May 11, 2016, 11:22:30 PM
13 months for a refund.

28 minutes and 9 seconds for a response to a negative forum post.

 :rofl:

What, no mic drop?! Inconceivable!!
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2016, 11:35:08 PM »
Quote from: GlockNewb on May 11, 2016, 11:27:09 PM
What, no mic drop?! Inconceivable!!

I traded that mic for a Caddy .....



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rhironaka808

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2016, 01:54:13 AM »
@ Hawaii on target.... Why don't you clear everything up by explaining the whole story? It would behoove your businesses reputation. The tv commercials may be all for not if this isn't cleared up. Best of luck you both parties involved.
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841gun

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2016, 02:09:11 AM »
there is no dispute between myself and hawaii on target.

he paid me back after a year of waiting for a powder order
my post was in response to another 2a member post in the Reviews section.

Is it bad business? Thats open as it is subjective.  But I would think a reasonable person would say yes it is bad business.

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Antithesis

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2016, 04:41:13 AM »
Quote from: Hawaii On Target on May 11, 2016, 10:51:08 PM

That's not the entire story Russell.  Please remove this post.

Soo... what is the story? 
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ren

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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2016, 07:12:23 AM »
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Inspector

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2016, 07:29:17 AM »
Quote from: Hawaii On Target on May 11, 2016, 10:51:08 PM

That's not the entire story Russell.  Please remove this post.
I am not taking sides here. We all know there are two sides to every story. So why don't you elaborate and let us know your side? Just a thought.  :shaka:
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Jl808

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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2016, 07:56:19 AM »
Looks like 841gun modified his initial post and added to the story.
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ren

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2016, 09:32:00 AM »
A $180 interest free 1 year loan.


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HiCarry

Re: My Response to Hawaii on Target I Have Provided Proof
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2016, 10:38:14 AM »
The principle for Hawaii On Target has a long history of...shall we say, problems with "customers." It does not surprise me that this type of thing happened as it seems to fit a pattern of past behavior. I know a lot of people that would never do business with him or anyone he is associated with....

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surfer22

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2016, 12:03:39 PM »
I ordered ammo and have been given excuses about wrong orders being received, it should be here soon, etc.  If I was the owner I would be proactive in keeping my customers aware of the situation and shipment issues, instead of having the customer need to continue to call in and inquire as to what's going on when it's nearly a month past the original arrival date. It really seems like something fishy is going on here. I will not be ordering anything else from Hawaii on target regardless of the price and I will recommend that my friends do the same.
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aieahound

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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2016, 12:10:26 PM »
 :popcorn:

For those who haven't followed the thread in reviews

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=23080.0

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