Your vote doesn't count anyways... just saying. GG electoral college.

What we need is more people voting for what's right, instead of which candidate is favored by a bureaucracy. Maybe today, people who are voting for what they think is right instead of the "next best choice" is a minority, and therefore may be perceived as a failure; but maybe we are the beginning of an era where people will start voting outside "the system". Maybe we are the beginning of when The People are sick and tired of the dog and pony show that is the bloated government and the established mentality that is bred into our society. Maybe that's why there are so many anti-ThePeople things going on right now; I don't know. What I DO know, is that **** needs to change. We can keep trying to play the game in different angles, but it's still the same goddamn cheating game stacked in the houses' favor. We're like a sad gambler who knows his next lucky break is just around the corner. Hopefully one day we can shift this mentality to a point where we can tell the house to F-off, and stop bending and breaking all the rules; but, like it is all too popular in Hawaii, when one person doesn't play by the rules or object the game, then the rest of the players will mock and scoff at the dissenting player; and it's apparent to me that this also applies to politics around the globe.

We all know change doesn't happen overnight. Maybe, voting toward who we agree with instead of who we think is the most winnable, is a step toward breaking away from the system steeped in bureaucracy? If more and more people started voting for who they agree with, then doesn't that change who is "winnable"?

Who else here thinks it's just downright evil that we are TOLD who to vote for (best chance of winning, etc), by the same corrupt system that rules our daily lives?

At the same time, I don't have faith in the MTV-Jersey Shore-Desperate Housewives-American Idol idiot generation(s) who are instructed what to think and how to act to wake up from their induced coma, but like I said, change takes time. All a regular guys can do is vote for what he thinks is right. It's a start.

With that, I leave my favorite video of the fragile frame of mind of people. Take it as supporting my argument.
The first follower turns the lone nut into a leader:

Racial connotations are not going to be tolerated. Even in fun and jest.   It is bad enough that they call anyone who disagrees with the current admin racist to begin with.  DO NOT post any comments like the ones deleted. 

You mean like this comment?

^ Why's the hole gotta be black?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,380143,00.html

 

Or like this one?

Fi dolla! You pay now!   

Racial connotations are not going to be tolerated. Even in fun and jest.   It is bad enough that they call anyone who disagrees with the current admin racist to begin with.  DO NOT post any comments like the ones deleted.  It is not in the good spirit of this forum.  This thread has a good discussion going, don't make me lock and delete it!

Going to play devils advocate on this one.

So please tell me what is racist about  a picture of a chimp with a cigarette in it's mouth?


There was no actual racist vocabulary in that post. You all put that together on YOUR own.

Maybe your own preconcieved ideas are to blame?

I saw a primate, a primate smoking, and a well below average politician trying to look kool by smoking one.

So now we are suddenly judge and jury on here?

No point

Quote from: vooduchikn on December 07, 2011, 08:50:46 PM

Quote from: Heavies on December 07, 2011, 04:43:36 PM

Racial connotations are not going to be tolerated. Even in fun and jest.   It is bad enough that they call anyone who disagrees with the current admin racist to begin with.  DO NOT post any comments like the ones deleted.  It is not in the good spirit of this forum.  This thread has a good discussion going, don't make me lock and delete it!

Going to play devils advocate on this one.

So please tell me what is racist about  a picture of a chimp with a cigarette in it's mouth?


There was no actual racist vocabulary in that post. You all put that together on YOUR own.

Maybe your own preconcieved ideas are to blame?

I saw a primate, a primate smoking, and a well below average politician trying to look kool by smoking one.

So now we are suddenly judge and jury on here?

Facebook like. 

Seriously though, there was no racist comment made by myself. I fail to see why my post was deleted. Since when was it a crime (racial or otherwise) to post a picture of a chimpanzee smoking a cigarette? Or post it next to a picture of the POTUS? Got to agree with Vood on this one. Any racist perception was all made up in your own minds.

Jesus Christ, are you serious?  Your post got deleted and I'm happy to leave it that way, so I won't repeat it here, but I'm throwing the bullshit flag all over that one.

No point

Quote from: Armaggeddon_Armory on December 07, 2011, 09:20:59 PM

Quote from: vooduchikn on December 07, 2011, 08:50:46 PM

Quote from: Heavies on December 07, 2011, 04:43:36 PM

Racial connotations are not going to be tolerated. Even in fun and jest.   It is bad enough that they call anyone who disagrees with the current admin racist to begin with.  DO NOT post any comments like the ones deleted.  It is not in the good spirit of this forum.  This thread has a good discussion going, don't make me lock and delete it!

Going to play devils advocate on this one.

So please tell me what is racist about  a picture of a chimp with a cigarette in it's mouth?


There was no actual racist vocabulary in that post. You all put that together on YOUR own.

Maybe your own preconcieved ideas are to blame?

I saw a primate, a primate smoking, and a well below average politician trying to look kool by smoking one.

So now we are suddenly judge and jury on here?

Facebook like. 

Seriously though, there was no racist comment made by myself. I fail to see why my post was deleted. Since when was it a crime (racial or otherwise) to post a picture of a chimpanzee smoking a cigarette? Or post it next to a picture of the POTUS? Got to agree with Vood on this one. Any racist perception was all made up in your own minds.

Jesus Christ, are you serious?  Your post got deleted and I'm happy to leave it that way, so I won't repeat it here, but I'm throwing the bullshit flag all over that one.

Coug,
A simple question and leave emotion out of it. What was racist about the post?

No point

No point

no point

Quote from: Cougar8045 on December 07, 2011, 09:38:13 PM

Quote from: Armaggeddon_Armory on December 07, 2011, 09:20:59 PM

Quote from: vooduchikn on December 07, 2011, 08:50:46 PM

Quote from: Heavies on December 07, 2011, 04:43:36 PM

Racial connotations are not going to be tolerated. Even in fun and jest.   It is bad enough that they call anyone who disagrees with the current admin racist to begin with.  DO NOT post any comments like the ones deleted.  It is not in the good spirit of this forum.  This thread has a good discussion going, don't make me lock and delete it!

Going to play devils advocate on this one.

So please tell me what is racist about  a picture of a chimp with a cigarette in it's mouth?


There was no actual racist vocabulary in that post. You all put that together on YOUR own.

Maybe your own preconcieved ideas are to blame?

I saw a primate, a primate smoking, and a well below average politician trying to look kool by smoking one.

So now we are suddenly judge and jury on here?

Facebook like. 

Seriously though, there was no racist comment made by myself. I fail to see why my post was deleted. Since when was it a crime (racial or otherwise) to post a picture of a chimpanzee smoking a cigarette? Or post it next to a picture of the POTUS? Got to agree with Vood on this one. Any racist perception was all made up in your own minds.

Jesus Christ, are you serious?  Your post got deleted and I'm happy to leave it that way, so I won't repeat it here, but I'm throwing the bullshit flag all over that one.

Coug,
A simple question and leave emotion out of it. What was racist about the post?

He referred to the current administration as the Simian Dynasty.  Simian means "of, relating to, or resembling monkeys or apes".  Clearly, referring to an organization headed by a black person as the Simian Dynasty would be interpreted by most everyone as offensive and racist.  Then, when someone challenged him as to what he meant, he said something to the effect of, "you know exactly what I meant," then illustrated his point with two pictures of monkeys followed by a picture of the President.  Clearly, the Simian Dynasty comment wasn't intended to imply something innocent.  He was saying the President is a monkey, and I would challenge you to find anyone who honestly thinks that calling a black man a monkey is not racist.  Now that his post has been deleted so no one who didn't see it knows what the hell he was talking about, he's pretending that we're the racists because we twisted his perfectly innocent comment into something it wasn't intended to be.  Hence, the bullshit flag.  It seemed racist, he confirmed that it was racist, I say it's racist.  Emotion's got nothing to do with it-if it walks like a duck, quacks like duck, and says, "Yup, I'm a duck!" then it's a duck.

No point

 

Damn, who calls people monkeys? lol.

Anyways....

 

Is there anything that says the Fed's have to destroy your fingerprints? (I'm betting there is already a database )

If not Ron Paul then no one because they all want us to go to war for Israel.

Quote from: vooduchikn on December 07, 2011, 08:50:46 PM

Quote from: Heavies on December 07, 2011, 04:43:36 PM

Racial connotations are not going to be tolerated. Even in fun and jest.   It is bad enough that they call anyone who disagrees with the current admin racist to begin with.  DO NOT post any comments like the ones deleted.  It is not in the good spirit of this forum.  This thread has a good discussion going, don't make me lock and delete it!

Going to play devils advocate on this one.

So please tell me what is racist about  a picture of a chimp with a cigarette in it's mouth?


There was no actual racist vocabulary in that post. You all put that together on YOUR own.

Maybe your own preconcieved ideas are to blame?

I saw a primate, a primate smoking, and a well below average politician trying to look kool by smoking one.

So now we are suddenly judge and jury on here?

Facebook like. 

Seriously though, there was no racist comment made by myself. I fail to see why my post was deleted. Since when was it a crime (racial or otherwise) to post a picture of a chimpanzee smoking a cigarette? Or post it next to a picture of the POTUS? Got to agree with Vood on this one. Any racist perception was all made up in your own minds.

connotations:  a : the suggesting of a meaning by a word apart from the thing it explicitly names or describes b : something suggested by a word or thing : implication

Don't do it.

racist comment

I never said this.

Damn, who calls people monkeys? lol.

Anyways....

 

Is there anything that says the Fed's have to destroy your fingerprints? (I'm betting there is already a database )

After watching many many many cop/crime shows on TV, I've come to the conclusion that there is a database and it makes it really easy to solve crimes.

Yep agreed, a overly expensive, underpowered, user unfriendly thumbprint database will solve any and all gun crimes, especially those committed by those crazy gun toting, bible thumping, 2a'ers.   

Two fingers up. (not thumbs) hehe.

Quote from: Heavies on December 07, 2011, 04:43:36 PM

Racial connotations are not going to be tolerated. Even in fun and jest.   It is bad enough that they call anyone who disagrees with the current admin racist to begin with.  DO NOT post any comments like the ones deleted. 

You mean like this comment?

Quote from: antoinebugleboy on November 29, 2011, 08:46:07 AM

^ Why's the hole gotta be black?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,380143,00.html

 

Or like this one?

Quote from: antoinebugleboy on October 23, 2011, 08:06:50 PM

Fi dolla! You pay now!   

If your intent was to provide counterexamples to Heavies' decree, I have to agree. Those things did slide without comment, and he may need to follow up with clarification.

If your intent was to call me out because of my part in the conversation, let me ask if you honestly believe that what I said, 1) in friendly jest, 2) not directed at any individual, and 3) in a non-volatile conversation is in any way comparable to calling our commander-in-chief a monkey, which is known to everyone to be a racist slur, then pretending, even after confirming that he was insinuating Obama's resemblance to a chimpanzee, that he had no awareness, knowledge, or intent of racism.

That being said...

Racial hatred is an ugly thing, and this society has come to the point where those who harbor such attitudes need to hide their true feelings by toeing the line and saying things that kinda-sorta don't cross the line, but get really, really close to it. Then of course when they are confronted, they can play the denial game and accuse the other party of being the "real" racists because they "got it." It's like Zach Galifianakis' bit on SNL a while back, where he said, "And if you don't understand that joke, congratulations, you're not racist."

If you understand a racist insinuation, it means you've been exposed to it. If you *make* the racist insinuations and bring it into the conversation where otherwise it didn't come up, it may mean you *believe* them.

Context and intent make a huge difference in meaning, but they are tricky, subtle things, lost on some people, used to deceive by others.