Electoral college (Read 17904 times)

bass monkey

Electoral college
« on: November 10, 2016, 05:15:54 PM »
If there talking about it does that mean it's true?
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2016/11/09/the-one-scenario-that-could-still-get-hillary-into-the-white-house/amp/?client=ms-android-att-us

Apparently there is a petition or poll of some sort.
However I was wondering if there is any truth to this?
Do you think it's possible for her to lie,  cheat,  kill her way into the office at the last second

passivekinetic

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2016, 05:24:44 PM »
Yes it's possible.

The electors are not bounded by law to vote the way they "promised" to vote.

I had kept this in mind during the election but forgot about it until you brought it up just now.

Some people say it is the final "fail safe" to ensure that the people don't elect the presidents that the one's "really" in charge, approve of.
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hvybarrels

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2016, 05:29:29 PM »
The electoral college sucks, but what sucks even more is if you listen to the liberal media defending it even though it caused them to lose. It's a mechanism to control the people and make sure true democracy is not possible, which is why they would never abandon such a powerful tool even in the face of defeat. The idea of "deplorables" choosing their own leadership is much too frightening.
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passivekinetic

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2016, 05:29:59 PM »
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/key-dates.html

December 28, 2016

Electoral votes (the Certificates of Vote) must be received by the President of the Senate and the Archivist no later than nine days after the meeting of the electors. States face no legal penalty for failure to comply.

If votes are lost or delayed, the Archivist may take extraordinary measures to retrieve duplicate originals.

On or Before January 3, 2017

The Archivist and/or representatives from the Office of the Federal Register meet with the Secretary of the Senate and the Clerk of the House in late December or early January. This is, in part, a ceremonial occasion. Informal meetings may take place earlier.

January 6, 2017

The Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes. Congress may pass a law to change this date.
The Vice President, as President of the Senate, presides over the count and announces the results of the Electoral College vote. The President of the Senate then declares which persons, if any, have been elected President and Vice President of the United States.
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
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passivekinetic

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2016, 05:31:00 PM »
The electoral college sucks, but what sucks even more is if you listen to the liberal media defending it even though it caused them to lose. It's a mechanism to control the people and make sure true democracy is not possible, which is why they would never abandon such a powerful tool even in the face of defeat. The idea of "deplorables" choosing their own leadership is much too frightening.

Unless of course you wanted to really piss off the conservatives and cause them to do something that would end in Martial Law.

But that would keep Obama in power, which of course we know they don't want to do at all.
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

bass monkey

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2016, 06:38:45 PM »
Thanks guys,  I appreciate all the information. 

So who is these electoral people that are voting?

passivekinetic

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2016, 06:45:25 PM »
Video here; let's all watch

"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous

passivekinetic

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2016, 06:46:00 PM »
Thanks guys,  I appreciate all the information. 

So who is these electoral people that are voting?

Check out the video. What struck me is, WTF are they talking about, an "anonymous" elector?!
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2016, 08:58:02 PM »
I have heard before that military votes from overseas can come in late sometimes. This could change things theoretically but the military usually leans republican as I understand it.

And just for background here are a few good videos on the electoral college.



whynow?

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2016, 09:18:32 PM »
Some media orgs are floating around the possibility of so-called republican electors not voting for DJT.   Seems like the media is trying to incite radicals to create chaos in this country.
I don't trust how Clinton conceded so early and Obama acting cordial today.  Both of them are treacherous and inherently evil.   Hope that the real October surprise is not a December surprise.
I believe if this happens or for any reason DJT is not inaugurated 45th POTUS, the schemers who pulled this off have just moved this nation to a April 1861 scenario.  History does repeat itself.
Just in case, hope Trump has a plan B and plan C.  B being getting Hill & Bill and others in the Clinton Foundation indicted or recommended for indictment  due to racketeering.   C being setting up a provisional national government until January 2017.   Some people might describe this as a coup.

bass monkey

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2016, 05:50:28 AM »
So after watching all these videos,  why do they keep track of the popular vote?  It pretty much doesn't matter right

RSN172

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2016, 06:31:18 AM »
The EC not confirming Trump as POTUS will lead to civil war, plain and simple.
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PeaShooter

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2016, 11:51:40 AM »
Congress meets Jan. 6 to approve the electoral college vote, and would certainly vote to void any roguery, handing the victory firmly back to Trump.

The topic article states that a rogue voting result can be nullified by Congress after the fact, so there should not be much concern. The popular vote has to be counted as a matter of principle. They need to publish the voting numbers for each state to prove the result, and anyone can add the numbers together themselves.

I'm not sure the electoral college is a bad thing. If the whole country had one set of laws then yes it would be bad. But because we are made out of allied states and each state is allowed to govern itself somewhat, there is some logic behind the idea of having states vote for the president, and not the people directly. What the electoral college does is prevent states from casting a "I'm not sure" vote when the popular vote in that state is close. States must make up their mind.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2016, 12:48:47 PM »
So after watching all these videos,  why do they keep track of the popular vote?  It pretty much doesn't matter right

Because people want to know.

Rocky

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2016, 02:19:34 PM »
I have heard before that military votes from overseas can come in late sometimes. This could change things theoretically but the military usually leans republican as I understand it.

And just for background here are a few good videos on the electoral college.





Thanks EEF.
I never disagreed with the ECV, but I must admit, those videos explained a little more than I knew.  :oops:


Probably the first time I ever agreed with you.    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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robtmc

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2016, 02:26:35 PM »
I have heard before that military votes from overseas can come in late sometimes. This could change things theoretically but the military usually leans republican as I understand it.

Which is why democrats traditionally try and disqualify those ballots if an election is tight.

From what I read out of curiosity about absentee/overseas ballots is that they are traditionally not counted for the initial state tally.  If the result is within the state margin of difference, then they count them.  Democrats fight this as they apparently lean Republican 67-33%, so they are usually dangerous.

That they have not been counted is why so many are saying no way did Hilliary win the popular vote.  Potentially many thousands of Trump votes not yet counted.  Dunno if they ever tally them or just call it a day.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/hillary_wins_the_popular_vote__not_.html

Surf

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2016, 04:03:29 PM »
His lead in the electoral is too massive to overcome.  Trump is the President elect and will get sworn in.  People need to and will get over it, one way or another.

London808

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2016, 06:09:38 PM »
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Rocky

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2016, 09:14:54 PM »


oooh ! I can see my house from here !

See, Hawaii rules.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :shake:
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robtmc

Re: Electoral college
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2016, 11:38:52 AM »
So happy my county is not among those, not that it stopped them from voting democrat. 

Liberals on the west side are in a frenzy as it is that about 40% of west Hawaii voted for Trump.  They cannot handle it.