WTB, HANDGUN :

Not in the Classifieds section as i dont want to cause confusion.

I need to purchase a Handgun and will require a bill of sale and ( Serial number and such for a permit). You may have to keep hold of this handgun for a long ass time.

Must be the cheapest handgun on earth as i dont want to tie up any money i dont have to.

SEC has a .22 revolver on consignment for $25, is that cheap enough?

SEC has a .22 revolver on consignment for $25, is that cheap enough?

Trying to avoid stores as i dont want them to potentially hold onto something for months/years/forever Thanks for the tip tho.

Why don't you just try to register a homemade firearm?

Precious few have your skills, brah.

London808, check your messages.

Thanks for the offer of pistols from people, Im not ignoring you im waiting to clarify a legal angel before proceeding.

Thanks for the offer of pistols from people, Im not ignoring you im waiting to clarify a legal angel before proceeding.

London, i don't think law requires that you purchase the handgun prior to applying for a permit to acquire.  also, a bill of sale is more of a "cover your ass" precaution and is generally a good practice, but it also is not required by law.  all you need is someone that is willing to give you sufficient information about the firearm so that you can apply for a permit to acquire.

the permit to acquire does not evidence your right to own the handgun.  technically you could apply for a permit to acquire, receive the permit, but never use that permit to actually take possession of the gun.

since you're basically doing this song and dance in order to establish your standing to bring a suit, it is almost irrelevant whether there is a purchase transaction involved.

Well did the Rap Back today. Got to HPD @ 6am no one else there, first in line. By 7:15 a couple more people showed up and that was it. Got in at 7:45 filled out the regular paperwork for a handgun plus an extra form. Submitted, paid the $42 fee, five minutes later got finger printed, done. Asked about photos and they said no need. They asked if I had my long gun permit with me (I did) and they put it under the new system.
Total time spent for the actual process was about 25 minutes. When I left, the place was empty but a couple of people were coming up the side by the elevator....

SUE them

SUE them

Already contributed to the lawsuit.... hopefully strength in numbers will prevail. Don't get me wrong, I hated having to go down there but, as previously mentioned, I already purchased a pistol and it was shipped the Friday before all this dung started. Would have been out a whole lot of cash. Besides I've got much more pressing problems with my grandson being diagnosed with precurser-B ALL and having to put down my female English cocker come Monday (15 years old). I do what I can when I can.....

:Crickets:

Of course it won't happen. So far, these guys just make changes to further take away our rights, never give.

I went and asked the firearms sergeant this question and got the explanation. He said that the waiting period is still in effect on each permit application. He went on to say that the HRA had a chance to give their input on the proposed law but the HRA just fought the whole law rather than having the rap back system eliminate the waiting period. He said he wished the waiting period had been eliminated.

I also asked whether an arrest takes a firearm or just a conviction and he explained that an arrest can cause the firearms to be taken, temporarily until your name is cleared by the prosecutor dropping the charges. This is the bigger kick in the pants. Because then you could be in limbo until the case is closed and the computer system is properly updated to read that there were no charges.

He said he wished the waiting period had been eliminated.

we all know this is total BS on HPD's behalf.
they can eliminate it if they want to.  its not HRA's rules, its HPD's.

we all know this is total BS on HPD's behalf.
they can eliminate it if they want to.  its not HRA's rules, its HPD's.

ITs not a rule/policy its state law, The law requires a 14 day waiting period on all permits, And there is no way no how that they would of removed the waiting period.

ITs not a rule/policy its state law, The law requires a 14 day waiting period on all permits, And there is no way no how that they would of removed the waiting period.

yes, I stand corrected.
they just want to make it as difficult as possible for firearms owners here to purchase and register their guns.
they want to infringe on our 2A, any way they can.

ITs not a rule/policy its state law, The law requires a 14 day waiting period on all permits, And there is no way no how that they would of removed the waiting period.

i thought the law says that the chief of police MAY impose a 14 day waiting period on each subsequent permit

i thought the law says that the chief of police MAY impose a 14 day waiting period on each subsequent permit

HRS 134.2 (e)
"no permit shall be issued to an applicant earlier than fourteen calendar days after the date of the application; provided that a permit shall be issued or the application denied before the twentieth day from the date of application."

They have to wait 14 days but can hold it as long as 20.

...the firearms sergeant ... said that the waiting period is still in effect on each permit application. He went on to say that the HRA had a chance to give their input on the proposed law but the HRA just fought the whole law rather than having the rap back system eliminate the waiting period. He said he wished the waiting period had been eliminated.

I suppose the sergeant had laryngitis at the hearings and both hands were in casts for the duration of the months the bill was before the legislature's various committees so that he was unable to express his preference until after it was all a done deal.

yes, I stand corrected.
they just want to make it as difficult as possible for firearms owners here to purchase and register their guns.
they want to infringe on our 2A, any way they can.

Careful, stang, you're edging toward the bitter, cynical side of things. Or, as I refer to it: reality.

I went and asked the firearms sergeant this question and got the explanation. He said that the waiting period is still in effect on each permit application. He went on to say that the HRA had a chance to give their input on the proposed law but the HRA just fought the whole law rather than having the rap back system eliminate the waiting period. He said he wished the waiting period had been eliminated.

I also asked whether an arrest takes a firearm or just a conviction and he explained that an arrest can cause the firearms to be taken, temporarily until your name is cleared by the prosecutor dropping the charges. This is the bigger kick in the pants. Because then you could be in limbo until the case is closed and the computer system is properly updated to read that there were no charges.

Do you live in an alternative universe?  This bill was proposed by Major Robinson.  Will Espero took it up for him.  This is the same Major Robinson that does not want you to have a gun at all but a really big dog.

Some HPD are pro gun, some are anti, some don't care one way or the other..  Same as most regular citizens.

Some HPD are pro gun, some are anti, some don't care one way or the other..  Same as most regular citizens.

The record of HPD in the legislature of proposing and submitting testimony for firearms laws, and enforcing firearms laws, is strictly in line with the "anti" position. There may be some rank and file officers who oppose unconstitutional infringements of citizens' rights to keep and bear arms, but I see no record of them testifying or speaking out against the infringing bills and laws (on matters of principle, not "we don't have the money to do that")..