Calling me stupid isn't going to make you less wrong.

Why would the budget remain the same?  Trump already saved us billions in Air Force One and other contracts.  He's going to offset tax cuts with the taxes rolling in from capital gains revenue due to a record stock market climb. 

Trump doesn't need to sweat the details.  It'll get done unless another activist judge gets in his way.

Feel free to cry about it all you want!  Trump's been beating the odds since day one of his campaign, and there's no letting up in sight! 

You can either come along for the ride, or get out and walk.  Up to you!   

Yes cause your feelings will fund the wall.  I get it.  Airforce one "savings"  have not been confirmed yet.  He just said he did it at a rally. Great sources bro.  I don't know how gains in the stock market will directly pay for the wall but ok.  Look man if you want to suck trumps dick all day based only on his words more power to you.  If just the thought of him doing stuff is good enough for you that's your opinion.  Until I see next years budget with a provision in it for the wall, its not being built.  Don't get me wrong I want the wall to be built but just saying it will doesn't mean shit.  Look at the rail. 

Doesn't look like the wall will be funded this year. Maybe next year if his approval rating (not his base) can get above 50%. He only has a two Senator lead plus Pence. It's easy for a GOP Senator to vote against Trump and tell his constituents about all they money he saved them. If Trump remains unpopular (again, I'm not talking about you), then there's no political risk in voting against Trump's campaign promises.

I don't believe that Trump is serious about building the wall. He only said it because he likes to hear people yelling "Mexico!" when he asked who was gonna pay for it. It was just a gimmick he liked to say over and over again like "lock her up!" and "China!" and "clean coal". What he needs to do is start building highways and bridges and airports and high speed rail (and the slow ones). He needs to start building sooner than later so when the mid term elections come about, he doesn't lose all of Congress. Hate to break this to you but there's no such thing as a permanent majority. Trump got elected because the same people who voted for Obama also voted for Trump instead of Hillary. They can easily switch back unless Trump can start pointing at workers holding shovels building shit that the middle class can use everyday.

Of the 103 campaign promises, he has kept 6. He's gonna have to do a lot better than that by the summer of 2018. People did not elect him on his good looks and moral character.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/rulings/promise-kept/

Unless you've lived as a border guard and dealt with the crap they have, you shouldn't say "RATHER THAN a physical wall". 

Only a physical barrier will send the message the US is no longer going to permit illegal entry.  THEN we add the electronic bells and whistles:  acoustic and motion sensors, night vision cameras, a second and third layer of barrier (fences) so someone detected between barriers is not as likely to evade border patrol, maybe even some experimental toys, too....

Hell yes!

I would support a fence over a wall and in certain locations only. I do not support a complete border wall.

#1 It is very expensive
#2 It won't be that big a deterrent. IIRC something like half of all illegal aliens just overstay their visas. The wall would do nothing to stop them. Then you have the tunnel systems, and what are those things called? Oh yeah, LADDERS.

Even the claim that Mexico will pay for the wall through tariffs is much more complicated. It isn't a black and white thing we can just switch on without sending ripples through our economy and theirs. If their economy gets hurt then you will have even more people wanting to cross the border for example. Could it theoretically be done? Maybe but at a number of consequences , some of which may affect using ways we cannot predict.

I highly recommend watching a video by Dennis Michael Lynch on the US border issue.   He is a documentary / film maker / reporter and I thought did a really fair video regarding the southern US border and the issues there. 

Who is Dennis Michael Lynch?
http://dennismichaellynch.com/who-we-are/

I was on a trip and my friend had me borrow a 3 dvd set to watch.  He did some pretty good reporting that gives a good understanding of what's going on at the border.

They Come to America: The Cost of Illegal Immigration
http://www.theycometoamerica.com/films_reel/2015/7/17/they-come-to-america-the-cost-of-illegal-immigration.html

They Come to America 2: The Cost of Amnesty
http://www.theycometoamerica.com/films_reel/2015/7/17/they-come-to-america-ii-the-cost-of-amnesty.html

They Come to America 3: The Cost of Obama's Legacy
http://www.theycometoamerica.com/films_reel/2015/7/31/they-come-to-america-iii-the-cost-of-obamas-legacy.html

A new study from the American Action Forum found that Trump has imposed new regulations
costing $28 million in his first 100 days, compared to the $4 billion erected by Obama in the
same period.

Add in the cost savings of slashing Obama-era regulations, and AAF said that Trump has a
“negative $3.6 billion” record, a total difference of $7.6 billion between Trump and Obama.

WINNING!   

http://www.sarahpalin.com/astounding-first-100-days-report-compares-trump-and-obama/

I would support a fence over a wall and in certain locations only. I do not support a complete border wall.

#1 It is very expensive
#2 It won't be that big a deterrent. IIRC something like half of all illegal aliens just overstay their visas. The wall would do nothing to stop them. Then you have the tunnel systems, and what are those things called? Oh yeah, LADDERS.

Even the claim that Mexico will pay for the wall through tariffs is much more complicated. It isn't a black and white thing we can just switch on without sending ripples through our economy and theirs. If their economy gets hurt then you will have even more people wanting to cross the border for example. Could it theoretically be done? Maybe but at a number of consequences , some of which may affect using ways we cannot predict.

Your lack of logic is unbelievable!

To say we don't need a complete border because it's expensive is like saying you only want to pay for 2 tires on a new car.  If you aren't going  to secure the entire border, then securing parts is not secure anything.

Also, to say it won't deter visa overstays, so don't build it, is like saying penicillin will only treat one of the infections you have right now, but not all, so let's not give you any.penicillin.

The problem of illegal aliens is multifaceted.  One solution is not going to solve all facets.  Arguing against one measure because it won't stop them all is just ignorant.

Finally, tunnels, ladders, and anything else that is a common method of circumventing a border can be countered.  Your comment is rather juvenile.  If you can't imagine better than that, then explaining things is a waste of time.

Your lack of logic is unbelievable!

To say we don't need a complete border because it's expensive is like saying you only want to pay for 2 tires on a new car.  If you aren't going  to secure the entire border, then securing parts is not secure anything.

Also, to say it won't deter visa overstays, so don't build it, is like saying penicillin will only treat one of the infections you have right now, but not all, so let's not give you any.penicillin.

The problem of illegal aliens is multifaceted.  One solution is not going to solve all facets.  Arguing against one measure because it won't stop them all is just ignorant.

Finally, tunnels, ladders, and anything else that is a common method of circumventing a border can be countered.  Your comment is rather juvenile.  If you can't imagine better than that, then explaining things is a waste of time.

Parts of the border aren't easily crossed, parts of the border do not pose a significant threat. Cost benefit. Some parts are worth the cost while others aren't. You are free to disagree of course.

My comment is rational, your reply is juvenile.

Parts of the border aren't easily crossed, parts of the border do not pose a significant threat. Cost benefit. Some parts are worth the cost while others aren't. You are free to disagree of course.

My comment is rational, your reply is juvenile.

So, where do you think people will start crossing if you secure the easier crossing points?  Maybe ...... the "parts of the border that aren't [easy to] cross?"

LOL!

How many border guards can you hire for $1B?

I agree that it makes sense to add more fencing in some more than others but not the entire border. I predict that this will be the inevitable outcome.

In the end the border wall is more of a symbol than anything super practical.  I want it built just for the symbolic gesture.  Cause people will overstay their visas and dig under or use a ladder.

In the end the border wall is more of a symbol than anything super practical.  I want it built just for the symbolic gesture.  Cause people will overstay their visas and dig under or use a ladder.

You know this how?  The plans for the wall have yet to be finalized, but you already know it's not going to be practical?

You sound just like EEF with the visas, digging and ladders.

Go figure!!   

symbolic gesture

kinda like carbon offsets?

You know this how?  The plans for the wall have yet to be finalized, but you already know it's not going to be practical?

You sound just like EEF with the visas, digging and ladders.

Go figure!!   

Okay, unless it is 100 feet high and 20 feet deep you can climb it or dig under.  Flying on a visa to america will also literally fly over the wall.  You can take a boat around the wall.  Hell you can take a trip to canada and walk down if you want to.
Here's some actual sources other than trump
http://cis.org/seminara/new-pew-report-confirms-visa-overstays-are-driving-increased-illegal-immigration


Here is the base specs for the wall
http://dennismichaellynch.com/construction-specifications-released-trumps-border-wall/
Min 18 feet high and 6 feet deep.  Both those you can dig or climb over.

Okay, unless it is 100 feet high and 20 feet deep you can climb it or dig under.  Flying on a visa to america will also literally fly over the wall.  You can take a boat around the wall.  Hell you can take a trip to canada and walk down if you want to.
Here's some actual sources other than trump
http://cis.org/seminara/new-pew-report-confirms-visa-overstays-are-driving-increased-illegal-immigration


Here is the base specs for the wall
http://dennismichaellynch.com/construction-specifications-released-trumps-border-wall/
Min 18 feet high and 6 feet deep.  Both those you can dig or climb over.

Are you arguing that we don't need a wall?  Or just arguing?  And why did you only post 2 numbers???   

The government’s list of requirements for the border wall are as follows:

    Wall must be sunk at least six feet into the ground.
    Be “physically imposing in height” and tower at least 18 feet over Mexico, though contractors are encouraged to build it higher. “The Government’s nominal concept is for a 30-foot high wall,” according to DHS records.
    Include 25- and 50-foot automated gates for pedestrians and vehicles.
    Constructed in a way that would require at least an hour to cut through it with a “sledgehammer, car jack, pickaxe, chisel, battery operated impact tools, battery operated cutting tools, Oxy/acetylene torch or other similar hand-held tools.”
    Deter people from climbing over it with ladders or grappling hooks, or tunneling under it.
    The design blends in with the “surrounding environment” and must be “aesthetically pleasing in color, anti-climb texture, etc.” from the north side. The agency’s document does not disclose how the wall should look south of the border.

The government will award a contract based on 30-foot-wide prototype walls that will be displayed at an undisclosed location in San Diego. The document states that proposals are due by March 29, and the agency has already received bids from over 400 companies.

Once again, if people overstay a visa, at least they entered the country legally and we know about them.  If they don't leave, eventually they will be discovered and deported, never to be allowed back in.

With a wall, we prevent those who come in illegally, not the legal entrants.

It's called "one measure to combat illegal aliens".  There will be others.

Are you arguing that we don't need a wall?  Or just arguing?  And why did you only post 2 numbers???   

Once again, if people overstay a visa, at least they entered the country legally and we know about them.  If they don't leave, eventually they will be discovered and deported, never to be allowed back in.

With a wall, we prevent those who come in illegally, not the legal entrants.

It's called "one measure to combat illegal aliens".  There will be others.

Okay so it is physically impossible to climb a 30 foot wall then?  Cutting through it is never an easy option I don't see that happening.   Says nothing about digging under it, 6 feet deep isn't exactly impossible. 
When over 50% of the illegals get here through non wall preventing means you should look at that first and not to ignore it.  You can't build a wall and do nothing about over stayed visas. 
The fact remains that unless its funded this year its basically dead in the water.  Look at obamacare reform....

Okay so it is physically impossible to climb a 30 foot wall then?  Cutting through it is never an easy option I don't see that happening.   Says nothing about digging under it, 6 feet deep isn't exactly impossible. 
When over 50% of the illegals get here through non wall preventing means you should look at that first and not to ignore it.  You can't build a wall and do nothing about over stayed visas. 
The fact remains that unless its funded this year its basically dead in the water.  Look at obamacare reform....

Your priority is to bail out the water we see and ignore the leak we don't?

The illegals we see came into the country legally.  They are known to immigration and can be listed as illegal on warrants.

The illegals we don't see because they "leak" into the country illegally have to be stopped as well.

Nothing says we can't do both at once.  The wall is going to take time to build.  There is no justification for delaying it at all.

Your priority is to bail out the water we see and ignore the leak we don't?

The illegals we see came into the country legally.  They are known to immigration and can be listed as illegal on warrants.

The illegals we don't see because they "leak" into the country illegally have to be stopped as well.

Nothing says we can't do both at once.  The wall is going to take time to build.  There is no justification for delaying it at all.

I guess you just don't have the intelligence to see the picture.  There are two holes in your boat one is causing 60+% of the water and one is causing 40-% of the water to come in.  Which do you patch first?
I've never ever said to delay it.  I literally been saying the opposite.  I said to do the wall this year or it will never happen. 

The confiscation of El Chapos 14 billion would be perfect. Can it be done???

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The design blends in with the “surrounding environment” and must be “aesthetically pleasing in color, anti-climb texture, etc.” from the north side. The agency’s document does not disclose how the wall should look south of the border.

I suggest that the south facing border wall have 20 foot high versions of the following poster placed every 100 horizontal feet... not because it will deter any illegal aliens, but because it will cause progressive splodey heads.