I read this yesterday and almost posted it then... today, what with the Bernie volunteer shooting up the Republican baseball team and all... though Buchanan's column here is more about those within government who seek to overthrow Trump via Deep State manipulations as opposed to the anarchist/commie/Socialist Democrat violence, intimidation and killing.

Are We Nearing Civil War?

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/patrick-j-buchanan/are-we-nearing-civil-war

Excerpts:

President Trump may be chief of state, head of government and commander in chief, but his administration is shot through with disloyalists plotting to bring him down.

We are approaching something of a civil war where the capital city seeks the overthrow of the sovereign and its own restoration.

Thus far, it is a nonviolent struggle, though street clashes between pro- and anti-Trump forces are increasingly marked by fistfights and brawls. Police are having difficulty keeping people apart. A few have been arrested carrying concealed weapons.

That the objective of this city is to bring Trump down via a deep state-media coup is no secret. Few deny it.
* * * * *
Not in memory have there been so many leaks to injure a president from within his own government, and not just political leaks, but leaks of confidential, classified and secret documents. The leaks are coming out of the supposedly secure investigative and intelligence agencies of the U.S. government.

The media, the beneficiaries of these leaks, are giving cover to those breaking the law. The real criminal "collusion" in Washington is between Big Media and the deep state, colluding to destroy a president they detest and to sink the policies they oppose.
* * * * *
Trump has had many accomplishments since his election. Yet his enemies in the media and their deep state allies have often made a purgatory of his presidency.

What he and his White House need to understand is that this is not going to end, that this is a fight to the finish, that his enemies will not relent until they see him impeached or resigning in disgrace.

To prevail, Trump will have to campaign across this country and wage guerrilla war in this capital, using the legal and political weapons at his disposal to ferret out the enemies within his own government.

Not only is this battle essential, if Trump hopes to realize his agenda, it is winnable. For the people sense that the Beltway elites are cynically engaged in preserving their own privileges, positions and power.
* * * * *
He should campaign against the real enemies of America First by promising to purge the deep state and flog its media collaborators.

Time to burn down the Bastille.

I read this yesterday and almost posted it then... today, what with the Bernie volunteer shooting up the Republican baseball team and all... though Buchanan's column here is more about those within government who seek to overthrow Trump via Deep State manipulations as opposed to the anarchist/commie/Socialist Democrat violence, intimidation and killing.

Are We Nearing Civil War?

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/patrick-j-buchanan/are-we-nearing-civil-war

Excerpts:

President Trump may be chief of state, head of government and commander in chief, but his administration is shot through with disloyalists plotting to bring him down.

We are approaching something of a civil war where the capital city seeks the overthrow of the sovereign and its own restoration.

Thus far, it is a nonviolent struggle, though street clashes between pro- and anti-Trump forces are increasingly marked by fistfights and brawls. Police are having difficulty keeping people apart. A few have been arrested carrying concealed weapons.

That the objective of this city is to bring Trump down via a deep state-media coup is no secret. Few deny it.
* * * * *
Not in memory have there been so many leaks to injure a president from within his own government, and not just political leaks, but leaks of confidential, classified and secret documents. The leaks are coming out of the supposedly secure investigative and intelligence agencies of the U.S. government.

The media, the beneficiaries of these leaks, are giving cover to those breaking the law. The real criminal "collusion" in Washington is between Big Media and the deep state, colluding to destroy a president they detest and to sink the policies they oppose.
* * * * *
Trump has had many accomplishments since his election. Yet his enemies in the media and their deep state allies have often made a purgatory of his presidency.

What he and his White House need to understand is that this is not going to end, that this is a fight to the finish, that his enemies will not relent until they see him impeached or resigning in disgrace.

To prevail, Trump will have to campaign across this country and wage guerrilla war in this capital, using the legal and political weapons at his disposal to ferret out the enemies within his own government.

Not only is this battle essential, if Trump hopes to realize his agenda, it is winnable. For the people sense that the Beltway elites are cynically engaged in preserving their own privileges, positions and power.
* * * * *
He should campaign against the real enemies of America First by promising to purge the deep state and flog its media collaborators.

Time to burn down the Bastille.

10-frigging-4!

Sounds like the author advocates a civil war of sorts in order to avoid civil war.

I posted something similar back in February:

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=26590.msg233822#msg233822

I believe it is possible. It really depends on how far the left is willing to take all this. And based on the shooting and targeting of Republicans I would say it may have just started today. It is hard to tell if this was the straw that broke the camels back or if it may take more. But guys like Bernie and POS like HRC had better stop inciting violence or they may be held at fault for inciting a riot if one breaks out based on their words.

I know this sounds paranoid, but being an old, white, fat conservative (not republican) I feel like I am the target of the left after today's shooting. And if I were to stand up in public for my conservative values I am putting my life at risk. Or worse putting my wife's life at risk. 

I don't think we are anywhere near that but it's sure being talked about more and more. The hateful rhetoric and narrative the left is spewing is taking a toll and people are just getting feed up and don't know what to believe anymore. Of course the MSM is pouring as much gasoline on the fire as they can, day after day, non-stop. The stuff they are spewing, and in many cases lies, is tearing the country apart.

TBH its the only path being left open,

will it be a fair fight?







http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/04/katy-perry-tells-one-love-manchester-love-conquers-fear-and-love-conquers-hate-6684967/

‘It’s not easy to always choose love, is it?,’ Katy Perry asked the crowd
‘Especially in moments like these. It can be the most difficult thing to do.
‘But love conquers fear and love conquers hate, and this love you choose will give you strength and it’s our greatest power.’

will it be a fair fight?

People who don't like trump out number the people who do.

People who don't like trump out number the people who do.

How do you know that?

How do you know that?

He doesn't know. How could he?

He just trolled you.

He doesn't know. How could he?

He just trolled you.

Shhhh.  I'm trolling the troll..... Watch him say, "The popular vote!"   

Shhhh.  I'm trolling the troll..... Watch him say, "The popular vote!"   

People who don't like trump out number the people who do.

I've seen you shoot...


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He doesn't know. How could he?

He just trolled you.

How do you know that?

I believe in science and the polls?   Not muh feelings like yourselves. 
And yes popular vote by the literal numbers means he got less votes.  1 vote per person = less people.   Simple math folks.

I've seen you shoot...


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Just gotta not use that glock or fix it.   My ar is on point though. 

Just gotta not use that glock or fix it.   My ar is on point though.

It's not the glock...


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I believe in science and the polls?   Not muh feelings like yourselves. 
And yes popular vote by the literal numbers means he got less votes.  1 vote per person = less people.   Simple math folks.

FACTS::

1.  The polls you love were so far off in November, they were a total joke.  They haven't been that wrong since Reagan won.  Just like when Reagan ran, the polls showed the Republican candidates way behind.  The last week before election, the polls converged.  Pollsters did that to hedge their bets so that if they were wrong, the deviation wasn't so huge as to destroy their credibility completely.

2.  Only 55% of voting-age Americans cast votes in the 2016 general election.  So you have absolutely no idea who the other 45% of voters prefer.  All you can say about the mythical popular vote is "of the 55% of voters who turned out, 48.2% preferred Clinton over the 46.1% who preferred Trump."  2.1% is not a massive difference, and it is well within the margin of error of all the polls.  Therefore, you can't use the election poll numbers to extrapolate to the entire voting population.   

3.  You said "PEOPLE" don't like Trump, not "voters."  Therefore, the number of people who may actually like Trump but can't vote due to age, citizenship status or other factors could be even higher than you can measure.

4.  As far as feeling go, you have argued nothing but feelings -- from climate change to Trump not being under investigation.  You can't stand to be proven wrong, so you argue as if the person who gets the last word in wins.  That's very emotional.

You can't prove your statement, because the facts don't support you.  Try again, Troll boy!

People who don't like trump out number the people who do.

 
And yes popular vote by the literal numbers means he got less votes.  1 vote per person = less people.   Simple math folks.

As above per Mr. Jackson, but short (TLDR) version:

Assumption: Everyone voted. Proof, or even evidence: None. Simple logic folks.

I'm gonna keep score on who's right and who's wrong since that seems so important to troll boy. So far we have:

Flapp Jack = 1
Puna Person = 1
Troll Boy = 0

Simple math... people

Let's see if troll boy can make a come back... 

I'm gonna keep score on who's right and who's wrong since that seems so important to troll boy. So far we have:

Flapp Jack = 1
Puna Person = 1
Troll Boy = 0

Simple math... people

Let's see if troll boy can make a come back... 

What's with all the hostility?! You KNOW what he MEANT... 

Don't we all know by now that his words cannot be taken literally? I mean, they CAN be, but then they'd be wrong...