The way many liberals talk and act, they would be on the muzzie's side.  But, that would clarify things nicely for the rest of us.

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I am curious why you left the UK and ended up here.

What was the primary motivation?

Sex.

Is the UK that bad?  I didn't like when I visited in 1973, but my daughter lived there from 2010 to 2013 and loved it.  She lived on the USAF base outside of London.  Anyway, glad you are here.

Imagine a place just like America, Now imagine that same place if Hillary won, Now imagine that same place without a constitution.

Yes it is hard to imagine an actual civil war occurring anytime soon. I think it truly depends on how conservatives/republicans/independents respond to having a target on their back. So from what I have seen, I have seen the conservatives/republicans/independents respond to 8 years of the Bush administration with democrats in control of the senate for 6 of those years and 8 years of the Obama administration watching Obama rule by executive order and they responded by voting in Trump. And you are now witnessing how the left/democrats/liberals/progressives are responding. To my way of thinking some of them have overstepped the bounds of the law and have incited all the violence we have seen against the conservatives/republicans/independents. As long as the conservatives/republicans/independents continue to respond by using the ballot box there will probably never be a civil war as I see it. But if they begin to respond in kind like the left has, we will begin to see lines drawn.

I don't think you are going to see a civil war in the way you are imagining it as state against state. Though I can see a scenario where a handful of states will try and secede. I am thinking it is going to be more in lines with the old stories of the Hatfields vs McCoys. In other words, brother against brother, families against family, neighbor against neighbor. How would you feel if your daughter came home from school beat to a pulp because she is whatever color you are and because her daddy is a crazy nut job gun supporting republican. BTW, it does not matter whether you are a republican or not. You are automatically labeled that because of your support for 2A. And when you go to her school to complain about her not being protected from this shit they tell you what do you expect? How would you feel if you were a republican wanting to play baseball and some fanatic guy came up and shot you just because he hates you just because you are a republican? The hate rhetoric is being ratcheted up on both sides. However, the left is going way overboard and IMHO crossing the line of inciting hatred and violence.

With all of this said, would more leftists move to the coasts to avoid the right? And vice versa? Already see that especially in Kalifornia. Just like here in Hawaii there are no republicans running against the democrats in some districts now. Which means every year they become more one sided and more radical. And every year the people lose more rights. I don't see enough states becoming so fractured as in your vision. Yet. But I think it is happening as we speak. Maybe not in our lifetime. Hopefully never in anyone's lifetime.

I certainly could imagine a sort of sectarian violence between political "gangs." Bombings of political targets for example, lynch mobs, etc. I think conservatives would win though! Scary to think about though.

Heck, if a state tried to secede would the USA fight a war to stop it? A little different from the whole country splitting in two as we saw in the American Civil War. I think our society and respect for law and order would, for the most part, prevent any large scale uprising. It would have to be to the point that the military and/or cops are willing to fight amongst themselves. I guess the only way to get a decently accurate picture would be to look at civil wars in other 1st world countries and see how they developed. Turkey is fairly modern and the had a coup attempt through the military. That is possible in practice but our structure is set up as such that it would be difficult for the military to assume control. So many interesting hypotheticals.

I certainly could imagine a sort of sectarian violence between political "gangs." Bombings of political targets for example, lynch mobs, etc. I think conservatives would win though! Scary to think about though.

Heck, if a state tried to secede would the USA fight a war to stop it? A little different from the whole country splitting in two as we saw in the American Civil War. I think our society and respect for law and order would, for the most part, prevent any large scale uprising. It would have to be to the point that the military and/or cops are willing to fight amongst themselves. I guess the only way to get a decently accurate picture would be to look at civil wars in other 1st world countries and see how they developed. Turkey is fairly modern and the had a coup attempt through the military. That is possible in practice but our structure is set up as such that it would be difficult for the military to assume control. So many interesting hypotheticals.

The only thing I will say here is probably Kalifornia being the most likely to try. I don't really see it as happening. Especially since the U.S. as a whole has so much to lose from Kalifornia leaving the union. However, my personal thoughts are to let them go (CalExit) and see how long they can last before rampant inflation and the devaluation of their currency causes them to start begging for money from the World Bank (and maybe the U.S.). Let's face it, they are in debt way over their heads currently. I think it would only get worse if they seceded. I would laugh and cry. I would laugh to watch them fail and I would cry because so much of my family will have to suffer through it. JMHO

Reminds me of many of the discussions we have here.

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/can-the-country-come-back-from-toxic-discourse-971022916002

Reminds me of many of the discussions we have here.

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/can-the-country-come-back-from-toxic-discourse-971022916002

Those two are part of the problem. And they want to discuss if the country can come back from toxic discourse? They are part of the toxic discourse. I can tell them how they can help, quit with the toxic discourse!!!

Ha. The irony and Ponzi scheme of "gangsta" rap is that these artists that portray the gangsta lifestyle are out of the "hood" once they make their money. Their fan base are the homies still in the hood while rappers like Snoop are waving bye and moving on up like the Jeffersons.
How many gangstas send their kids to USC?

Reminds me of many of the discussions we have here.

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/can-the-country-come-back-from-toxic-discourse-971022916002

Mika's a moron (As is her fiance), (barely) masquerading as someone who has something of value to say that anyone else would care about.

Mika: [Donald Trump] is trying to undermine the media and trying to make up his own facts. And it could be that while unemployment and the economy worsens, he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think. And that, that is our job.

I suspect that Trump watches Morning Joe so he can watch Mika (plus the interviews with the Senate and House members). Personally, I don't watch the politician interviews because they only spout the party line and I don't learn anything. The exceptions are McCain and Franken. They're always entertaining.

could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think. And that, that is our job.

An extraordinary glimpse of what is behind the curtain with the leftist media.

An extraordinary glimpse of what is behind the curtain with the leftist media.

Yeah, and when she issued a "clarification" of that glimpse, she claimed that she was referring to something that didn't exist in the three sentences she uttered. Other than that, good cover. Moron. Liar.

I read quite a bit of the left wing media. I don't watch these morons nor Rachel Maddow. They are too sensationalized for me. I get a better idea of what the left is really thinking and doing from better, more direct sources.

What really makes the leftist MSM heads explode are DJT's Tweets. Oh my gosh they go bat shit crazy every Tweet he lets out. I believe it is truly because the MSM cannot control the content and therefore can be seen as liars towards the unwary who might actually believe DJT over the MSM. This to me explains the constant attacks and attempts to disrupt DJT's agenda. Along with trying to cover up for the previous administration.

Rachel and the rest of the MSNBC crew are sensationalized so I don't watch them. The MSM claim to despise the Trump tweets but are secretly in love with them. They add fuel to their segments or punchlines. I think they would be okay with no more WH news briefings as long as Trump continues his 4 am poop tweets.