Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah! (Read 8721 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« on: June 15, 2017, 03:13:41 PM »
A blind shooter taking his CCW test.     :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

dustoff003

Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2017, 03:14:39 PM »
I have bought somethings from a blind FFL in Arkansas. https://www.youtube.com/user/plinking101


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macsak

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2017, 03:25:23 PM »
A blind shooter taking his CCW test.     :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



he needs his gun fixed, just like omnigun does

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2017, 03:29:03 PM »
he needs his gun fixed, just like omnigun does

Troll boy's problem is a result of cognitive dissonance.  That's a different form of blindness.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2017, 03:50:09 PM »
While I'm not one who would try to deny someone a right to defense themselves, "uh, yeah" is about all...

While I all all for people overcoming, rising above, etc disabilities.  Come on man! Yeah, I get this may have been fun. Making someone feel good about themselves and such. Still...


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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2017, 04:14:54 PM »
While I'm not one who would try to deny someone a right to defense themselves, "uh, yeah" is about all...

While I all all for people overcoming, rising above, etc disabilities.  Come on man! Yeah, I get this may have been fun. Making someone feel good about themselves and such. Still...


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Consider this.

In the United States, any person with vision that cannot be corrected to better than 20/200 in the best eye, or who has 20 degrees or less of visual field remaining, is considered legally blind.  20/200 is the big "E" at the top of the eye chart.  If you read the E and nothing smaller, you're legally blind.

That's corrected to 20/200, meaning it's worse uncorrected.  Do we place restrictions on gun owners like we do drivers?  "Corrective lenses required to operate?"
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2017, 04:42:30 PM »
Consider this.

In the United States, any person with vision that cannot be corrected to better than 20/200 in the best eye, or who has 20 degrees or less of visual field remaining, is considered legally blind.  20/200 is the big "E" at the top of the eye chart.  If you read the E and nothing smaller, you're legally blind.

That's corrected to 20/200, meaning it's worse uncorrected.  Do we place restrictions on gun owners like we do drivers?  "Corrective lenses required to operate?"
Ok. I didn't say anything about restrictions. Didn't say anything about legally blind. I know many people who fall into that category that are very good shooters.

Consider this, how is said blind person to know where to aim? Let alone differentiate friend from foe.

Again, I am not one to deny someone their right to defend themselves. Just my opinion that I don't see a blind person CCW being a good idea. If you or anyone else want to legally, or illegally for that matter, carry, rock on.




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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2017, 04:56:52 PM »
Ok. I didn't say anything about restrictions. Didn't say anything about legally blind. I know many people who fall into that category that are very good shooters.

Consider this, how is said blind person to know where to aim? Let alone differentiate friend from foe.

Again, I am not one to deny someone their right to defend themselves. Just my opinion that I don't see a blind person CCW being a good idea. If you or anyone else want to legally, or illegally for that matter, carry, rock on.


I could name a half dozen variables that would have to be considered in answering that.

1.  distance to the threat/s
2.  number of bystanders
3.  unique characteristics of the threat which make distinguishing from others easy (voice, colors of clothing, ...).
4.  number of threats
5.  amount of lighting in the vicinity (i.e. dark alley versus bright day in park).
6.  familiarity with the location.  Memorizing the layout previously can be an advantage.

He'd have to judge if using the gun himself is prudent.

Consider this.  If he's with others, he may have the opportunity to pass the firearm to someone with no visual impairment.  At least one person planned ahead and packed an iron!   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

robtmc

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2017, 07:41:04 PM »
If I was blind, a portable flame thrower would by a goal for me.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2017, 07:47:06 PM »
If I was blind, a portable flame thrower would by a goal for me.

Combo Service Animal and Flame Thrower!

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rklapp

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2017, 09:31:47 PM »
I guess the blind guy could pull out a concealed carry handgrenade if only the Founding Fathers had the foresight.
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punaperson

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2017, 05:49:21 AM »
All kidding aside (I think), whether "legally blind" or "blind blind", if such a person was in physical contact with the criminal (as during an assault) a firearm would be the most effective tool for self-defense. But it is my (limited) understanding that unless one is careful and/or able to keep the muzzle directly off the body that a revolver is recommended as pressure against the muzzle (as when pressed against a body) can cause malfunction of a semi-auto. Seems like a "legitimate" cause for carry for a blind person.

oldfart

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2017, 06:32:39 AM »
I think that is a bad idea.
The 3 NRA basic rules...safe direction, unloaded till ready, finger off trigger.

How would he know what is a safe direction to point the pistol?
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changemyoil66

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2017, 09:19:27 AM »
He shot better than the guy that was next to me at HFR a few weeks ago.  He was at 3 yards shooting his 45 and barely on paper.  As in majority of his shots were not in the black silhouette and in the white background.  He needs Jesus.

zippz

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2017, 09:27:24 AM »
I find it wonderful that someone like that has the aspirations to get a CCW.  Pass the test, carry the gun, and feel proud.  Give him the benefit of the doubt that he knows his own limitations.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Blind guy with a gun? Uh, yeah!
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2017, 11:25:54 AM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw