now I am not the type of person two try and attach a motive to somebody for a lack of a certain specific wording to their comment and I wont try to stretch a loose connection to link somebody just for a political reason but I don't know why Trump will not specifically condemn the KKK for the recent violent protests. Sure, he denounced all violence and that is great but given that so many on the left are out to get him why did he not bother to specifically mention the KKK or other white supremacist? all he had to do was make some comment saying how bad those racists were but instead he said nothing specifically. he must have known that this gives everyone, even Republicans, something to attack him with.even though I am not a Trump fan I defend him from claims of racism that are a stretch from the left but even I have to wonder is there some reason he won't mention them?

Should he have gone down the list specifically naming each group? 
Kkk. BLM,  Antifa, etc. 
And than if he didn't name a group they can still participate next time? 
Maybe he didn't list names because he doesn't agree with any of it,  and doesn't care who started it,  just that he wants it to stop.

I am no fan of the KKK, or any other POS racist group of any color, but from what has been reported, the POS KKK and other so called "right wing" protesters where doing their march peacefully and with a permit.  This all came to a head when these ANTFA idiots, which hypocritically act like freaking fascists,  started attacking. 

The car running into people is disgusting. But they aren't even 100% on which side did what yet? 

Personally I am getting super freaking tired of all this bullshit.  DEMORATS, REPUBLICUNTS, Alt-left, Alt-right.....  all freaking NON AMERICAN as far as I'm concerned.  None, and I mean NONE, actually want to adhere to the Constitution of the United States or Bill of Rights.  They pick and choose what they like and ignore the rest,  like some kind of half asses religious cults do with the scriptures. 

Most of America is nowhere near these jackoffs, and most are sick and tired of all of it.  Left and Right. 

The media and Hillary's campaign (same?) made the same allegations during the campaign.  There were several times someone either attending a rally or making headlines voiced support for Trump, and Trump was demonized for not denouncing those people.

Trump has made statements about any and all hate groups:

Trump's campaign Tuesday night said that he “denounces hate in any form” and disavowed
support for his candidacy offered by a newspaper associated with the Ku Klux Klan.

“This publication is repulsive and their views do not represent the tens of millions of Americans
who are uniting behind our campaign,” Trump's campaign said in a statement.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-kkk-newspaper-endorses-donald-trump-20161102-story.html

Why is it necessary to give credibility to anyone with a vile message by acknowledging them publicly?  His stance is clear. 

Why was this not an issue when the California KKK Grand Dragon endorsed Hillary? 

In 72, the nation was tired of the peace protesters and voted overwhelmingly for Nixon. One year later, he resigned and three years later, Carter. I'm worried that America will become tired of the President's shit and vote the other direction. Yes, the Dems have done shit, but they're not in power and the public has a short attention span. Anything more than a year ago is old history. Trump needs to get his shit together this year or Nancy Pelosi will be SOH again, God forbid.

In 72, the nation was tired of the peace protesters and voted overwhelmingly for Nixon. One year later, he resigned and three years later, Carter. I'm worried that America will become tired of the President's shit and vote the other direction. Yes, the Dems have done shit, but they're not in power and the public has a short attention span. Anything more than a year ago is old history. Trump needs to get his shit together this year or Nancy Pelosi will be SOH again, God forbid.

There is a huge difference between Trump and the example Obama set:

- Market is in record high territory, over 4,000 points since Trump's election.

- The economy has added over 1 million jobs in 2 quarters.

- The budget deficit has been almost eliminated in Trump's first proposed budget.

- Veteran's HealthCare is getting the funding and attention it needs to begin providing the care our vets deserve.

- Income levels are beginning to rise.

- Unemployment is at a 9-year low.

- Government jobs are being cut by around 200,000 positions.  The First Lady's staff alone is 2 dozen positions smaller than Michelle's was.  Cuts in jobs (and associated retirement entitlements) means more money for programs that are needed.

- We are no longer being scammed out of our revenue by the Paris Climate Change Accord.

the list goes on ...

The biggest thing Trump has done is stood up to the media.  They see themselves as "king makers," having the power to make or break presidential candidates.  Trump took them on directly and won.  He continues to side-step their misinformation campaigns to move the country forward.

So far, every Democrat running a campaign in a special election has lost.  West Virginia's governor switched parties to Republican.  The Democrats are having one hell of a time raising contributions now that Hillary and Obama aren't around to sell access to the highest levels of government.

You can make all the off-the-cuff predictions you want about Democrats stealing power back you wish.  I just don't see much there to support your "worries".

Should he have gone down the list specifically naming each group? 
Kkk. BLM,  Antifa, etc. 
And than if he didn't name a group they can still participate next time? 
Maybe he didn't list names because he doesn't agree with any of it,  and doesn't care who started it,  just that he wants it to stop.

Her certainly could have but no one is claiming him to be associated with BLM or Antifa so it isn't really as important. I am not suggesting he supports any of the groups, I just wonder why he doesn't bother to specifically speak against a group that people claim him to be associated with.

Her certainly could have but no one is claiming him to be associated with BLM or Antifa so it isn't really as important. I am not suggesting he supports any of the groups, I just wonder why he doesn't bother to specifically speak against a group that people claim him to be associated with.

you don't deny that you are HPD

now I am not the type of person two try and attach a motive to somebody for a lack of a certain specific wording to their comment and I wont try to stretch a loose connection to link somebody just for a political reason but I don't know why Trump will not specifically condemn the KKK for the recent violent protests. Sure, he denounced all violence and that is great but given that so many on the left are out to get him why did he not bother to specifically mention the KKK or other white supremacist? all he had to do was make some comment saying how bad those racists were but instead he said nothing specifically. he must have known that this gives everyone, even Republicans, something to attack him with.even though I am not a Trump fan I defend him from claims of racism that are a stretch from the left but even I have to wonder is there some reason he won't mention them?

I can't speak for Trump myself. But he did condemn the violence and the people who did it. There is no defense needed unless you want to fall for the crap the MSM is spewing? In which case keep trying to get everyone here to talk about a nothing burger. After seeing how Trump operates (what he says and does) it is obvious to me he doesn't give a crap about what his enemies think of him. Which is one of the admirable traits that got him elected. His enemies are going to think these things even if he had cow towed to them and the MSM and said what you want for him to say. So why should he even care?

His supporters/those who know him (and people who are smart enough to not read into the meanings of Trump's words and take them literally/at face value) will accept what he said as a complete and total condemnation of the event and people involved. Period. There is nothing more to say here about this. There is nothing to wonder about unless you believe what the MSM is spewing these days. And it sounds like you do. This is not meant as an insult, just my observation, otherwise you would not have even brought this up. It is a nothing burger. A moot subject. JMHO

I understand people not liking nor not trusting Trump. But why play guessing games as to what the meaning of Trump's words are or are not? I am a very literal person and I all I see is a bunch of snowflakes playing baby guessing games trying to guess what the real meaning is behind his words. Don't these snowflakes have more and better things to do than to try and read into the president's words? Give me a fucking break. 

Inspector said it much better than I could. 

I am no fan of the KKK, or any other POS racist group of any color, but from what has been reported, the POS KKK and other so called "right wing" protesters where doing their march peacefully and with a permit.  This all came to a head when these ANTFA idiots, which hypocritically act like freaking fascists,  started attacking. 

The fake news has totally fremed this as the leftists being attacked and ignoring the fact that the facist left came to this event strictly to create a fight.

Was spitting mad at West Hawaii Today choosing to run an AP lie as their story on the events: (I am always spitting at WHT)

" A car plowed into a crowd of people peacefully protesting a white nationalist rally "

Does not get more fake news than that, but that is what is being fed to the low information types.

NPR interviewed the president of the NAACP this morning.  Sigh. . . While I agree that this racial divide needs to stop, it's not like Trump started this fire.  Yup, lots of blame to go around, but what people the like NAACP, MSM, etc are doing are only making things worse. 

In all honesty,  this incident rests solely on the mayor of the city.
He knew there was going to be a march with an approved route. 
He knew there was going to be an anti protest against the marchers. 
Routes were changed at the last minute.
Police were in the wrong places not keeping the groups separated. 
Trump had nothing to do with any of it. 
It's like blaming the president for the actions of one mayor. 
Oh wait. 

here you go: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/36128079/the-latest-trump-condemns-kkk-neo-nazis-as-thugs

Its OK for a President to say that a former thug could have been his son and for a President to weigh in on a criminal matter - that President was responsible for a lot of riots and we are still experiencing it today. Calls to "blow up the White House" "Not my President" all fallout from the same crybabies who's tempter tantrums destroyed neighborhoods
But the media gobbled up the "Trevon Martin could have been my son" BS. If he was I'd mark that as poor parenting
Now President Trump is being criticized for inaction (which is false) So in this case, the media has no story and conjured (stirred the firepit) up a story. 

Her certainly could have but no one is claiming him to be associated with BLM or Antifa so it isn't really as important. I am not suggesting he supports any of the groups, I just wonder why he doesn't bother to specifically speak against a group that people claim him to be associated with.

I'd write "Are you happy now?" But I'm almost certain that no matter what Trump does and/or says, he could stand there for an hour reading and condemning the names of organizations and individuals whose values and beliefs you object to, and you'd still find fault. Or should I say "posit another unbiased and objective question which is of mere intellectual interest to you as you are neutral in all such matters"?

From Trump's remarks today (after which he kept going and going on and on about how bad "it" all was/is):

As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.

And as I have said many times before: No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.

Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.

I can't speak for Trump myself. But he did condemn the violence and the people who did it. There is no defense needed unless you want to fall for the crap the MSM is spewing? In which case keep trying to get everyone here to talk about a nothing burger. After seeing how Trump operates (what he says and does) it is obvious to me he doesn't give a crap about what his enemies think of him. Which is one of the admirable traits that got him elected. His enemies are going to think these things even if he had cow towed to them and the MSM and said what you want for him to say. So why should he even care?

His supporters/those who know him (and people who are smart enough to not read into the meanings of Trump's words and take them literally/at face value) will accept what he said as a complete and total condemnation of the event and people involved. Period. There is nothing more to say here about this. There is nothing to wonder about unless you believe what the MSM is spewing these days. And it sounds like you do. This is not meant as an insult, just my observation, otherwise you would not have even brought this up. It is a nothing burger. A moot subject. JMHO

I understand people not liking nor not trusting Trump. But why play guessing games as to what the meaning of Trump's words are or are not? I am a very literal person and I all I see is a bunch of snowflakes playing baby guessing games trying to guess what the real meaning is behind his words. Don't these snowflakes have more and better things to do than to try and read into the president's words? Give me a fucking break. 

In summary, EEF stop being a snowflake!

The media is trying to make another story (fake news) just because he didn't say specifically what group.  What if it wasn't only the KKK, but another grand dragon overlord named group and he left it out, then the media will tell the fake story on how he supports that group.

Trump knows what he's doing when he tweets and did this one specifically so across the board he doesn't condone hate.

The problem is that their rally is protected by free speech (1a), that's why they were allowed to be there when they planned it months ago and the cops didn't stop them.  So what's hate speech to 1, may not be hate to another.  Hence why Trump didn't name names, because then the media will say he's violating their 1a or some other BS story.  I can guarantee the KKK members see nothing wrong with what they're promoting, even though I personally don't agree with it.

We must also remember that these WS rallies don't end up causing as much damage compared to BLM or AntiFA ones.  The confrontations only started with the counter protestors trying to violate the WS rallies rights.

The media is trying to make another story (fake news) just because he didn't say specifically what group.  What if it wasn't only the KKK, but another grand dragon overlord named group and he left it out, then the media will tell the fake story on how he supports that group.

Trump knows what he's doing when he tweets and did this one specifically so across the board he doesn't condone hate.

The problem is that their rally is protected by free speech (1a), that's why they were allowed to be there when they planned it months ago and the cops didn't stop them.  So what's hate speech to 1, may not be hate to another.  Hence why Trump didn't name names, because then the media will say he's violating their 1a or some other BS story.  I can guarantee the KKK members see nothing wrong with what they're promoting, even though I personally don't agree with it.

We must also remember that these WS rallies don't end up causing as much damage compared to BLM or AntiFA ones.  The confrontations only started with the counter protestors trying to violate the WS rallies rights.

Yup.  I didn't see much blaming of Obama for all of the rioting done in the name of BLM, particularly when Obama always seemed to take the side of the "innocent young black boy" who could do no harm.