Of course some people have various mental or social conditions in which they may not respond in the standard way

lol, that describes many of us here on this board, including myself

Dang. That's what all the Obama supporters kept asking/saying.
Lately Congress is a clusterfuck.

That brings up the fact that the Democrats did not consult with the Republicans on the AHCA and the Republicans did not consult with the Democrats on the ACA. Personally, when Obama said he was going to fundamentally transform our government I knew what he meant. I really thought he was not going to be able to get it done because of congress. But he used executive orders to get partially what he wanted. I never once felt that he didn't keep his promises. I just didn't like the way he went about doing it.

So far I have been impressed with Trump regarding what he has gotten done. He still needs to get the big things done and out of the way. If healthcare is not one of them I won't begrudge him for not trying. I just wish he would stay away from the media for a few months. And if he cannot I wish he would get a better speech writer. Sheeeeeeeesh!!! 

I read about all these people being felt oppressed by these statues.
Stop. All these "people" were born into a generation that didn't endure the real effects of oppression.
They didn't endure the sail over amongst several things. They are free to pursue an education and they still fuck that up by rioting on campuses. They have the free will to live wherever they want and they fuck that up too. No one is oppressing anyone.
A fucking statue is oppressive? You have to be a really special kind of snowflake for that shit.

I wish the left and the MSM would spend more time condemning the violence than tearing down statues. It really shows where their priorities are.

"Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans," the president said in a statement to reporters at the White House on Monday.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence," he said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-virginia-protests-idUSKCN1AU0TW

Happy now?

JL,

It's not enough for these people. It will never be enough. My earlier posting about the Trump's enemies, the left and the MSM condemning his condemnation is so telling and obvious. No matter what he says or does, it will never be enough. I admire the president for not allowing these snowflakes/enemies/leftists/MSM to force him to say something THEIR WAY. He said what he said in his own words. I understood. I took his words literally and at face value. Nothing more is needed.

That brings up the fact that the Democrats did not consult with the Republicans on the AHCA and the Republicans did not consult with the Democrats on the ACA. Personally, when Obama said he was going to fundamentally transform our government I knew what he meant. I really thought he was not going to be able to get it done because of congress. But he used executive orders to get partially what he wanted. I never once felt that he didn't keep his promises. I just didn't like the way he went about doing it.

So far I have been impressed with Trump regarding what he has gotten done. He still needs to get the big things done and out of the way. If healthcare is not one of them I won't begrudge him for not trying. I just wish he would stay away from the media for a few months. And if he cannot I wish he would get a better speech writer. Sheeeeeeeesh!!! 

Libs tend to forget that point.  They will just justify it as Republicans weren't allowing things to get done, so Obama did what he needed to do.  But then isn't that closer to a dictatorship? 

Complicated situation with no way to win. Nothing Trump said could have gone over well. For once he tried to be moderate and he's getten one hell of a poop storm over it.

These antifa dicks ruined it for themselves when they became a facist hate group themselves. It's one facist hate group fighting another. Then again, on the other hand, they never killed or were directly responsible for hundreds of millions of casualties and murders...IMO anyone that is a neo-Nazi deserves a bullet in the head or a knife to the throat. Too many people around the world died and suffered so that a bunch of big-talking wimps (many are as equally snowflakes as the antifas) to start supporting those ideals again.

hmmm..
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/16/more-arrested-in-toppling-confederate-statue-in-north-carolina.html

"Takiyah Thompson, a member of Workers World Party and student at N.C. Central University being arrested by Durham County Sheriff's deputies, Aug. 15, 2017 in Durham, N.C.  (Julia Wall/AP )"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_World_Party

"The WWP has maintained a position of support for the government of North Korea. Through its Vietnam-era front organization, the American Servicemen's Union (ASU), the party endorsed a 1971 statement of support for that government. The statement was read on North Korea's international radio station by visiting ASU delegate Andy Stapp.[10] In 1994, Sam Marcy sent a letter to Kim Jong-il expressing his condolences on behalf of the WWP with the passing of his father Kim Il-sung, calling him a great leader and comrade in the international communist movement.[11] Its more recent front groups, IAC and (formerly) International ANSWER, have also demonstrated in support of North Korea."

I agree that he's trying his hardest to keep his promises in his own way. The question I wonder about is if the voters will support him if in the end, he doesn't follow through with his major promises. The problem is that these campaign promises are like a debt he owes the voters. If I owed you money, and I told you I tried really, really hard to repay you but didn't, was the debt repaid?

It's more like an investment than a debt.  Like an investment, the broker tells you how he's going to deal with your money, and according to how the market falls(which is something that can be managed but not under 100% control), you may or may not receive a return for that investment.

We were gambling that trump can manage the investment, we voted him to do that job.  If mismanagement of that causes failure, then that's on him.  If the market fails, ie congress, then that is beyond his control.

No doubt at least one racist and, to use the words of black commentator Marc Lamont Hill in another context, as stated on CNN to black CNN host Don Lemon, two "mediocre Negroes".

The media this morning is blaming Trump for what happened.  There was not 1 mention of KKK, Neo Nazi, etc...

No doubt at least one racist and, to use the words of black commentator Marc Lamont Hill in another context, as stated on CNN to black CNN host Don Lemon, two "mediocre Negroes".

sad state that CNN -nothing meaningful in that Lemon charade

I can't listen when Don Lemon is on.  Makes me want to kick in the TV. 

In order to ease your pain regarding slave owning confederates, please send me all of your $20 bills with their  likeness of Andrew Jackson.   
Oh wait, Democrats excluded. 

The Communists won
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/museum-or-dumpster-us-cities-wrestle-with-confederate-statues-fate/ar-AAqfWtK?li=AA4ZnC&ocid=ientp

"Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans," the president said in a statement to reporters at the White House on Monday.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence," he said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-virginia-protests-idUSKCN1AU0TW

Happy now?

I am wondering why he didn't do this the first time. It is not a matter of me being happy, I don't personally consider him to be a racist.

lol, that describes many of us here on this board, including myself

Oh I am sure the left would love for our "condition" to be classified as a mental issue.

I wish the left and the MSM would spend more time condemning the violence than tearing down statues. It really shows where their priorities are.

Agreed.

Hey your back.  I thought Mac calling you a cop chased you off.

"Dilbert" creator Scott Adams sums up the situation nicely.

How To Know You’re In a Mass Hysteria Bubble

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/164297628606/how-to-know-youre-in-a-mass-hysteria-bubble



History is full of examples of Mass Hysterias. They happen fairly often. The cool thing about mass hysterias is that you don’t know when you are in one. But sometimes the people who are not experiencing the mass hysteria can recognize when others are experiencing one, if they know what to look for.

I’ll teach you what to look for.

A mass hysteria happens when the public gets a wrong idea about something that has strong emotional content and it triggers cognitive dissonance that is often supported by confirmation bias. In other words, people spontaneously hallucinate a whole new (and usually crazy-sounding) reality and believe they see plenty of evidence for it. The Salem Witch Trials are the best-known example of mass hysteria. The McMartin Pre-School case and the Tulip Bulb hysteria are others. The dotcom bubble probably qualifies. We might soon learn that the Russian Collusion story was mass hysteria in hindsight. The curious lack of solid evidence for Russian collusion is a red flag. But we’ll see how that plays out.

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1. The trigger event for cognitive dissonance

On November 8th of 2016, half the country learned that everything they believed to be both true and obvious turned out to be wrong. The people who thought Trump had no chance of winning were under the impression they were smart people who understood their country, and politics, and how things work in general. When Trump won, they learned they were wrong. They were so very wrong that they reflexively (because this is how all brains work) rewrote the scripts they were seeing in their minds until it all made sense again. The wrong-about-everything crowd decided that the only way their world made sense, with their egos intact, is that either the Russians helped Trump win or there are far more racists in the country than they imagined, and he is their king. Those were the seeds of the two mass hysterias we witness today.

Trump supporters experienced no trigger event for cognitive dissonance when Trump won. Their worldview was confirmed by observed events.