I doubt it, the binary trigger will never fall under the definition of a machinegun

I doubt it, the binary trigger will never fall under the definition of a machinegun

but they can just ban certain modifications or parts not "approved" by the ATF or state government.   The government already regulates a ton of other firearm related things such as barrel length, stock, foregrips, types of barrel attachments allowed, etc.

In this video the rate of fire is inconsistent, which leads me to believe this particular weapon was not a full-auto weapon, but more likely a bumpfire stock or trigger crank. When full-auto weapons heat up, the rate of fire can change but not like this. Maybe he had other weapons that were either registered full-autos or converted full-autos, but in this particular clip, the rate of fire does not sound like a F/A weapon.



One thing you can probably count on is there will be a push to ban any of these types of devices, drums mags and high capacity mags. Plus they will likely attempt to go after any assault rifle "type" semi-auto weapons. Of course you know our US representatives will be at the front of the line to start restricting our rights. 

This source not always reliable but he is right often enough for at least a read.   Should Antifa be involved this could  be a bombshell.  https://www.infowars.com/fbi-source-vegas-shooter-found-with-antifa-literature-photos-taken-in-middle-east/

In this video the rate of fire is inconsistent, which leads me to believe this particular weapon was not a full-auto weapon, but more likely a bumpfire stock or trigger crank. When full-auto weapons heat up, the rate of fire can change but not like this. Maybe he had other weapons that were either registered full-autos or converted full-autos, but in this particular clip, the rate of fire does not sound like a F/A weapon.



One thing you can probably count on is there will be a push to ban any of these types of devices, drums mags and high capacity mags. Plus they will likely attempt to go after any assault rifle "type" semi-auto weapons. Of course you know our US representatives will be at the front of the line to start restricting our rights.

good call on trigger crank. i think you might be right

especially when they drink alcohol when reloading and clock loads huffing

It's only a rumor...

Just heard on the news our governor saying there must be some common sense gun laws to prevent further tragedies like this from ever occurring again. We all know what this means...

Just heard on the news our governor saying there must be some common sense gun laws to prevent further tragedies like this from ever occur again. We all know what this means...

Yeah, round up all of the accountants and keep them locked up until the government can determine they don't pose a risk to the public.

Just heard on the news our governor saying there must be some common sense gun laws to prevent further tragedies like this from ever occurring again. We all know what this means...

isn't that an oxymoron?
There's nothing common sense about our Hawaii gun laws
"two week" waiting period? What's that for? Any studies to prove that a 2 week waiting period deters "gun" violence? If that's the case, apply the "two week" waiting period to all tools used in violence i.e. cars, knives, fists etc. Why just guns?
Firearms registration deters crime? Any criminals found in that database? I'll tell you what they have - a database of law abiding citizens.

No common sense in those "gun" laws

isn't that an oxymoron?
There's nothing common sense about our Hawaii gun laws
"two week" waiting period? What's that for? Any studies to prove that a 2 week waiting period deters "gun" violence? If that's the case, apply the "two week" waiting period to all tools used in violence i.e. cars, knives, fists etc. Why just guns?
Firearms registration deters crime? Any criminals found in that database? I'll tell you what they have - a database of law abiding citizens.

No common sense in those "gun" laws

Did you all hear Jimmy Kimmel's response on his show? "Common sense" was his approach at it. SMH!!

When will the two week waiting period start for renting a moving van?

Just heard on the news our governor saying there must be some common sense gun laws to prevent further tragedies like this from ever occurring again. We all know what this means...

hrc and brian shits said the same thing
Using the deaths of innocent people for their political platform is really disgusting
I remember when we had a major storm hit big island and they needed supplies. It was right near election time.  bs went there for a photo op and gave 1 guy in puna a half liter of water for his good deed of the day.

Well there are a couple videos out that gun fire flash was coming from much lower in mandalay bay suggesting the original theory of multiple shooters is the case. And if there was multiple shooters the motive might be not crazy white dude but .... oh the conspiracy

Doesn't seem accurate enough...

Well there are a couple videos out that gun fire flash was coming from much lower in mandalay bay suggesting the original theory of multiple shooters is the case. And if there was multiple shooters the motive might be not crazy white dude but .... oh the conspiracy

The lower flash's were strobe lights. You could see them going on 5 hours latter in news footage showing the front of the hotel.

hrc and brian shits said the same thing
Using the deaths of innocent people for their political platform is really disgusting
I remember when we had a major storm hit big island and they needed supplies. It was right near election time.  bs went there for a photo op and gave 1 guy in puna a half liter of water for his good deed of the day.

I have so much distaste for our elected politicians here that it's better for me to keep my mouth shut. I keep voting but there isn't enough of us going to the booths to make a dent, so it seems. I wish we would get some really good candidates on our side but it's just wishful thinking. Even if we did, it will be hard to get them elected.

Well there are a couple videos out that gun fire flash was coming from much lower in mandalay bay suggesting the original theory of multiple shooters is the case. And if there was multiple shooters the motive might be not crazy white dude but .... oh the conspiracy

I think you ate one too many wings (just kidding).

grassy knoll

I don't like making the argument semiautos are legal and the criminal made an illegal automatic to use in the crime.  To me it implies that automatics are bad and should be illegal and that we should blame the type of gun instead of the shooter.  Should automatics be banned?  I don't think so.  If we base the legality of a firearm on the amount of people it can kill, then eventually it'll come down to semiautomatics can kill a lot of people quickly so they should be banned too.  We should focus on the shooter

Another thing to keep in mind is not to automatically disregard someones anti-gun statement no matter how outlandish you think it is.  They have a legitimate concern where a lot of people died and got hurt from a firearm.  If one of my family members were killed in the incident, I may have second thoughts myself.  We share the same concerns, just different ways to solve the problem.

Doesn't seem accurate enough...

It's possible, brace it on a table and look through the sights while firing.  He's trying to hit something the size of a basketball court at 300-400 yards.

The only question is: What level of casualties is America prepared to accept in exchange for the right to bear arms?

I think about this question everytime something like this happens.  What I came up with is what is more important, rights or safety or equal parts of the two?  America has the most freedoms by far than any other nation and hundreds of thousands of Americans died in the wars for independence, civil war, WWI and WWII to protect our rights.  So America has a history of sacrificing safety for rights.  Every death by a firearm is tragic whether it's through crime, suicide, defensive, etc but we can't sacrifice rights as it's what America is about.