That and all the "Muskets were what the 2a is based on when written, so why do people need AR-15 rifles? Time to revise the 2a." kind of memes.

I tell them, then freedom of speech doesn't apply to anything but the printing press (no computers, social media, etc...)
Freedom of religion doesn't apply to Scientology

I don't think you need to worry about accuracy when you have thousands of targets. It probably wouldn't be that hard with all of the targets in the open, even if the distance is beyond the weapons effective range or the capability of the gismo.

My morbid curiosity wants to know what the dispersion was. Was he directing fire or was he also spraying the streets? To me, makes a difference when determining if it was best to duck, cover, or run. If he was focusing on the front stage, then running was the best option (assuming you don't get trapped by the fence). If spraying the entire area, then duck and cover was best option. Some people got hit three times so I'm guessing that most of the rounds landed in front of the stage and running was the best option.

All of this talk reminds me of a movie...

My morbid curiosity wants to know what the dispersion was. Was he directing fire or was he also spraying the streets? To me, makes a difference when determining if it was best to duck, cover, or run. If he was focusing on the front stage, then running was the best option (assuming you don't get trapped by the fence). If spraying the entire area, then duck and cover was best option. Some people got hit three times so I'm guessing that most of the rounds landed in front of the stage and running was the best option.

All of this talk reminds me of a movie...

2 different scenarios
In Smokin Aces that shooter had a target identified
In this tragedy the shooter (He's not a sniper) was shooting for mass casualties.
The LV shooter was sick and evil

what irritates me is how the press always brings up how many guns, rounds of ammunition, etc that the shooter has.   It's not uncommon for the average gun enthusiast/hobbyist to have multiple guns & thousands of rounds.  The fact that the shooter had 40 guns or whatever in his house, car, wherever is meaningless since he's shooting 1 at a time.  The fact that he (and other mass shooters) have multiple guns ready and magazines loaded and with them reflect the fact that they're prepared for premeditated mass murder, not that somehow owning that much makes you more likely to be a bad person and commit murder.

what irritates me is how the press always brings up how many guns, rounds of ammunition, etc that the shooter has.   It's not uncommon for the average gun enthusiast/hobbyist to have multiple guns & thousands of rounds.  The fact that the shooter had 40 guns or whatever in his house, car, wherever is meaningless since he's shooting 1 at a time.  The fact that he (and other mass shooters) have multiple guns ready and magazines loaded and with them reflect the fact that they're prepared for premeditated mass murder, not that somehow owning that much makes you more likely to be a bad person and commit murder.

I agree. I'm demonized on what I'm constitutionally protected to have.

Investigators are also looking into $100,000 that Paddock transferred to an account in the Philippines in the week before the shooting, according to a separate NBC News report. It is unclear whether the transfer is connected to Paddock's gambling habits.

The Philippines is the home country of Paddock's live-in girlfriend, Marilou Danley, who the police have said has been out of the country.

I somehow doubt that the gf had no idea of what he was planning to do.  And it's very convenient how she just happened to be out of the country when the attack happened, not to mention the $100k transfer.   LEOs are still waiting for her to return to the US to interview her.  If she has any sense, she'd never come back to the US

what irritates me is how the press always brings up how many guns, rounds of ammunition, etc that the shooter has.   It's not uncommon for the average gun enthusiast/hobbyist to have multiple guns & thousands of rounds.  The fact that the shooter had 40 guns or whatever in his house, car, wherever is meaningless since he's shooting 1 at a time.  The fact that he (and other mass shooters) have multiple guns ready and magazines loaded and with them reflect the fact that they're prepared for premeditated mass murder, not that somehow owning that much makes you more likely to be a bad person and commit murder.

Agreed. They talk like the number of guns equals mentally unstable. Maybe if you had a compound and multiple wives, but not multiple guns.

ren, I didn't say it was the same scenario. Stop being literal.

and snowflakes who are so detached from reality give their "guidance"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/read-cole-sprouse-apos-powerful-193040595.html

And brings in the race card
"And so also need to address what part of whiteness influences this kind of Petri dish for gun violence and killing."

And suggests going about the law and of course interjects a bit of emotion
"We need to broaden the conversation past simply a legal issue if we'll ever understand it fully. My heart goes out to all affected by this."

fcking media....

at his home in Mesquite, Nevada, they discovered something potentially more deadly: Several pounds of ammonium nitrate and tannerite, both components that can used to make explosives. 

granted, he could have used a few lbs of ammonium nitrate and tannerite to potentially make an explosive, but lets examine other uses.

ammonium nitrate - high nitrogen fertilizer, i mean this is nevada in the desert...
tannerite - commonly used in reactive targets for target shooting

I'd imagine that if he tried to make an explosive with a few lbs of chemicals and detonate it, the death toll would be much less than what it actually was.   The guy has a half bag of fertilizer and container of reactive target compound, and the media is treating it like it's an assembled car bomb.   And I'd also imagine that if most people's garages were examined, they'd have chemicals or powders that could potentially be used for an explosive.  Hell, if my house was examined the media would go bonkers over the 20lbs of nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin, which can be used to make explosives.  But the 20lbs is more commonly referred to as smokeless powder for reloading bullets.

I somehow doubt that the gf had no idea of what he was planning to do.  And it's very convenient how she just happened to be out of the country when the attack happened, not to mention the $100k transfer.   LEOs are still waiting for her to return to the US to interview her.  If she has any sense, she'd never come back to the US

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Abu Sayyaf?

Saw some pictures of two of the guns used in the shooting. If you have an Instagram, go check mrgunsngear.
One was an AR that had a surefire 60 with an eotech, slide/bump fire stock, and a free float rail. The other was also a AR with a free float rail, scope of sorts, and a bipod.
There’s more but right now its still sensitive material

looks like a Surefire 100 mag

looks like a Surefire 100 mag

^^

they released pictures, looks like he wrote a note.   funny no mention.

Here are the two I seen.

looks like a Surefire 100 mag

yup. havent seen those on sale in a while.  the 60rd surefire mag is always on sale online...

Didn't want to post but there is one more pic showing the result of him taking his life...looks like from a snub nose. Heard the investigators are pretty pissed that the media released the photos, rightfully so but what do they expect from todays media.

I agree, media these days is a little nosy but we’re all curious and want to know and see immediately