Guess things will remain the same as far as no gun rights are concerned.

Guess things will remain the same as far as no gun rights are concerned.

Until the voters get to select the police chief, or there is a purge in the halls of Hawaii government, that will never change.

Guess things will remain the same as far as no gun rights are concerned.

She currently works in the Records Division, 

She owns no mailboxes - she uses PO Box

I have heard good things about her.

I have heard good things about her.

Bet you she still won't issue CCW permits.

I have heard good things about her.

Like she was sued for changing answers on entry exams for new officers and then had all the evidence destroyed before they could be sued as evidence ?

Like she was sued for changing answers on entry exams for new officers and then had all the evidence destroyed before they could be sued as evidence ?

well I heard she stored them in a mailbox and it got stolen...

well I heard she stored them in a mailbox and it got stolen...

Das why she use PO Box now.

Like she was sued for changing answers on entry exams for new officers and then had all the evidence destroyed before they could be sued as evidence ?

Did she get the job because she's female?

Sounds like she'll Crack down on DV so be extra nice to your spouse/significant other or the cops will be knocking on your door for your guns.

Did she get the job because she's female?

Part of the reason she was selected (according to comments on the news last night) is she was not part of the HPD higher command, meaning she was unlikely to have been part of the corruption being investigated/charged.

She was also the only finalist who is an active police officer.

Would it not be better to bring in someone who's not a current police office (and therefore not tied to any current HPD corruption), and also bring in an outsider, who doesn't have any hawaii "old boy" network connections?  And weren't the current commissioners involved in giving kealoha a clean bill of heath, not to mention the cash payout, even after he was indicted?

So they're basically hiring her to be in charge of everything because she's a female and was never really in charge of everything before. 

Would it not be better to bring in someone who's not a current police office (and therefore not tied to any current HPD corruption), and also bring in an outsider, who doesn't have any hawaii "old boy" network connections?  And weren't the current commissioners involved in giving kealoha a clean bill of heath, not to mention the cash payout, even after he was indicted?

So they're basically hiring her to be in charge of everything because she's a female and was never really in charge of everything before.

She's got 32 years experience at HPD.  That counts quite a bit.

The commission also said they were swayed by her answers during the interview on restoring public confidence in the department and continuing to work on the problems there.

I'm not arguing she's the best choice.  Just don't think it's fair to trash her before she's had a chance.

Would it not be better to bring in someone who's not a current police office (and therefore not tied to any current HPD corruption), and also bring in an outsider, who doesn't have any hawaii "old boy" network connections?

What your describing is the police commissioners who are the outsiders looking in.  You want an experienced police chief cause they need to know what is right and wrong in the job.  The commission and state prosecutor were the big problems in the kealoha case who brushed things off.  If they fail at their jobs then the feds takeover so the system did work.

Perhaps the commissioners need more authority to investigate and have their role defined better.  Kinda hard though since they're volunteers.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2009/Oct/07/br/hawaii91007087.html

Too bad it wasn't a federal offense.

Out with the old, in with the old.

Edit:

Here's another good read of HPD workings with Ballard allegedly involved:

https://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/hawaii/hidce/1:2008cv00520/83238/59/0.pdf

She's got 32 years experience at HPD.  That counts quite a bit.

The commission also said they were swayed by her answers during the interview on restoring public confidence in the department and continuing to work on the problems there.

I'm not arguing she's the best choice.  Just don't think it's fair to trash her before she's had a chance.

Fair enough, but I'm somewhat jaded by the entire process and corrupt officials.  Was kealoha himself not heralded as some beacon of light when he was first appointed HPD chief?

What your describing is the police commissioners who are the outsiders looking in.  You want an experienced police chief cause they need to know what is right and wrong in the job.  The commission and state prosecutor were the big problems in the kealoha case who brushed things off.  If they fail at their jobs then the feds takeover so the system did work.

Perhaps the commissioners need more authority to investigate and have their role defined better.  Kinda hard though since they're volunteers.

Sorry, I guess I wasn't super clear.  It could be someone from a different PO, say Texas or wherever or it could be a retired PO, who's been out of the game for a number of years.  These types of people should be an outsider, at least to the current band of shibai and corruption during kealoha's era, but still have the experience for the chief's job. 

The commission, prosecutors, mayor, everyone share some blame, but the biggest fault lay with the chief and the officers under him, who need to show the public they have - integrity, honesty, respect.

I'm going to contact HPD and try to get a message to her on her stance on what is "exceptional circumstance".

I'm going to contact HPD and try to get a message to her on her stance on what is "exceptional circumstance".

she will refer you to her legal counsel - Alison Lee Wong

she will refer you to her legal counsel - Alison Lee Wong

In case people have any confusion over who Wong is ....

http://www.civilbeat.org/2017/10/hpd-corruption-case-who-is-alison-lee-wong/