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punaperson

Re: Trump
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2018, 06:50:03 AM »
Quote from: s197 on January 05, 2018, 10:13:54 PM
Against anybody? Lmao
Once you're able to stop laughing your ass off, please give us your list of the top 10 or 5 examples of who you'd vote for opposed to Trump.
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s197

Re: Trump
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2018, 07:36:40 AM »
Quote from: punaperson on January 06, 2018, 06:50:03 AM
Once you're able to stop laughing your ass off, please give us your list of the top 10 or 5 examples of who you'd vote for opposed to Trump.
People who have run for POTUS or just anyone in general?

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mrgaf

Re: Trump
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2018, 07:55:33 AM »
Quote from: robtmc on January 05, 2018, 07:07:07 PM
The dork that started off here trolling for inflammatory opinions on things of interest to HPD.  Refused to say who he worked for, but the entrapment effort was quite obvious.

Idiot does nothing but argue now, apparently for the sake of arguing every damn thing. 

It will come to you.

Ahhhhh got it..... HPD is pathetic anyway so nothing surprises me. More entertaining than the chimp enclosure at the zoo.  :rofl:
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s197

Re: Trump
« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2018, 08:05:04 AM »
Trump is asking for 18 billion from US taxpayers to build and reinforce a portion of the wall. What happened to Mexico paying for it? What happened to building it for 10 billion, the whole thing, because he can do things better and cheaper?

Must be like how he only hires the best people. Except these guys I guess.



Or those tax returns he promised to release. Any day now right?  :thumbsup:
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punaperson

Re: Trump
« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2018, 08:14:52 AM »
Quote from: s197 on January 06, 2018, 07:36:40 AM
People who have run for POTUS or just anyone in general?
You used the term "anybody", you define it. Far be it from me to attempt to limit your choices by defining some term you used.
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punaperson

Re: Trump
« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2018, 08:25:02 AM »
Quote from: s197 on January 06, 2018, 08:05:04 AM
Must be like how he only hires the best people. Except these guys I guess.
1. Trump did not hire Bharara nor Comey... not sure about Harvey and Shaub. Obama "hired" at least the first two.
2. Exactly what are you implying about personnel changes?
3. Does that implication hold true for Obama or any other president who makes changes to personnel in the administration?
4. Or are some changes "good" and some "bad", according to some arbitrary (ideological) criteria you apply?
5. What is the criteria you apply to determine the "good" vs. the "bad" personnel changes?
6. Name an administration with either no personnel changes, no personnel changes in the first year in office, or with some number and "type" of politically correct personnel changes and list them all for our edification and review.
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s197

Re: Trump
« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2018, 09:08:03 AM »
Quote from: punaperson on January 06, 2018, 08:25:02 AM
1. Trump did not hire Bharara nor Comey... not sure about Harvey and Shaub. Obama "hired" at least the first two.
2. Exactly what are you implying about personnel changes?
3. Does that implication hold true for Obama or any other president who makes changes to personnel in the administration?
4. Or are some changes "good" and some "bad", according to some arbitrary (ideological) criteria you apply?
5. What is the criteria you apply to determine the "good" vs. the "bad" personnel changes?
6. Name an administration with either no personnel changes, no personnel changes in the first year in office, or with some number and "type" of politically correct personnel changes and list them all for our edification and review.
15 people in ONE year? Take 3 of them off the list if you like. That's 12. Name an administration that had that much turnover. And let's not forget, he hires the best people. His words not mine. Sure is a lot of leaving and firing for such a claim. Bannon is basically saying everyone in the white house thinks he's an idiot. Again, not my words. Just one of his closest advisors but hey you believe what you want to believe. I'm not here to change anyone's opinion, just express my own.

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rklapp

Re: Trump
« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2018, 09:44:13 AM »
Trump doesn't hire people because they are the most qualified. He hires them because they are the most loyal and usually because they are philosophically opposed to the thing that the agency is suppose to support including Tillerson, Pruitt, Perry, and perhaps even Carson. If you consider this a libertarian dream of eliminating the government, then Trump has accomplished many things (except for the military of course). If the officials are competent but hasn't produced the results he wants, then he fires them like Comey, Price, Yates, and trying really hard on Sessions. Let's also not forget all of the people that Trump fired but has forgotten like Manafort, Bannon, Papadopoulos, and sometimes Flynn. Wait a minute... isn't this what Trump said was gonna happen if Hillary was elected? Again, I'm mentioning this because I'm conservative and I fear the backlash that will occur in 2018 and has already started. Trump supporters seem accepting of this. I think I would be okay with Pence or Rubio or maybe even Jeb or Ryan. Reagan was a great President and a Hollywood actor. Unfortunately, I doubt this reality show actor will ever compare to Reagan. Is it too late to elect Schwarzenegger?
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punaperson

Re: Trump
« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2018, 10:12:48 AM »
Quote from: s197 on January 06, 2018, 09:08:03 AM
15 people in ONE year? Take 3 of them off the list if you like. That's 12. Name an administration that had that much turnover. And let's not forget, he hires the best people. His words not mine. Sure is a lot of leaving and firing for such a claim. Bannon is basically saying everyone in the white house thinks he's an idiot. Again, not my words. Just one of his closest advisors but hey you believe what you want to believe. I'm not here to change anyone's opinion, just express my own.
Six questions asked. No answers given. Oh, and the list of preferred candidates has not been forthcoming yet either.

I wanted to conclude the "six questions" post with "Any wagers on whether we will get a straight clear unambiguous answer to these questions or not?", but didn't want to appear "cynical"...  :rofl:

Here's one take on White House personnel turnover (from National Review which is by far predominately composed of NeverTrump and/or anti-Trump writers and editors, e.g. the related artcile referenced at the end: There’s No Shakeup That Can Fix the Trump White House):

Are Trump’s Staff Turnovers Abnormal?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450367/trump-staff-turnover-normal-abnormal-too-soo-tell

Excerpt:

Obama’s administration, notorious for having an exceedingly high rate of late-term staff turnover, should provide a lesson for Trump. By the week before Trump’s inauguration, Obama saw 20 cabinet departures — six fewer than FDR did in twelve years — and the movement or resignation of countless other aides and staffers. Even the Huffington Post couldn’t ignore it, publishing an article in 2014 attempting to explain away “a year of goodbyes at the White House.”

Dedicated followers of the Obama staff exodus will recall that none of his 15-member cabinet remained for both terms, leaving him with 17 departures for his second term and an attrition rate of 1.13, which is the number of seats to fill divided by the number of cabinet positions. According to University of Minnesota’s Smart Politics blog, authored by Eric Ostermeier, that makes Obama’s second-term rate the second-worst since FDR’s, when Ostermeier began analyzing the data. In fact, the terms adjacent to Obama’s second-worst rate are Gerald Ford’s, at 1.09, and Harry Truman’s first, at 1.36. (Ostermeier notes that Truman and Ford each inherited his predecessor’s cabinet in the middle of his term.)


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s197

Re: Trump
« Reply #69 on: January 06, 2018, 10:54:44 AM »
Did you think Obama was a good POTUS? If not, then why are you comparing them (never mind the fact that we are talking 1 year vs multiple terms)?

Wait let me guess, only you get to ask questions right? Like how people can selectively answer my questions (no comment on the Mexico wall, releasing tax returns, etc.) but I'm required to answer everything.

Like I said, I'm not here to change your mind. If you want to talk wagers, I'd gladly do that. You think we hit 5% GDP for the year? I'll put money on the under.

You think we're building a wall and Mexico pays for it? Got money for that one too.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #70 on: January 06, 2018, 12:52:52 PM »
Quote from: s197 on January 06, 2018, 10:54:44 AM
Did you think Obama was a good POTUS? If not, then why are you comparing them (never mind the fact that we are talking 1 year vs multiple terms)?

Wait let me guess, only you get to ask questions right? Like how people can selectively answer my questions (no comment on the Mexico wall, releasing tax returns, etc.) but I'm required to answer everything.

Like I said, I'm not here to change your mind. If you want to talk wagers, I'd gladly do that. You think we hit 5% GDP for the year? I'll put money on the under.

You think we're building a wall and Mexico pays for it? Got money for that one too.

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The reason for the comparison is to point out the hypocrisy and ideological bias of the press.  One turnover rate is a sign the administration is irreparably in disarray, but the other is "just the way it goes".

Anyone who pays attention and uses critical thinking skills sees that immediately.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rklapp

Re: Trump
« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2018, 01:38:52 PM »
....Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart. Crooked Hillary Clinton also played these cards very hard and, as everyone knows, went down in flames. I went from VERY successful businessman, to top T.V. Star.....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/949618475877765120

Was someone, like, typing this while standing outside of the bathroom during the President's 4:27 am turd dump?
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s197

Re: Trump
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2018, 02:08:15 PM »
The stable genius:



 :wtf:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2018, 03:25:10 PM »
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #74 on: January 06, 2018, 03:32:54 PM »
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

s197

Re: Trump
« Reply #75 on: January 06, 2018, 04:12:19 PM »
Ahh the memes. Is that, like, what the really smart people, like, do when they have, like, no comeback?

I don't know why he talks so much about Wharton anyway, his own pressor at Wharton called him the dumbest student he ever had.

https://www.studyinternational.com/news/trump-student-wharton/
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #76 on: January 06, 2018, 04:20:02 PM »
Quote from: s197 on January 06, 2018, 04:12:19 PM
Ahh the memes. Is that, like, what the really smart people, like, do when they have, like, no comeback?

I don't know why he talks so much about Wharton anyway, his own pressor at Wharton called him the dumbest student he ever had.

https://www.studyinternational.com/news/trump-student-wharton/

That was then.  He's 71 now.  He can talk about whatever he wants as long as he does a good job as President.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2018, 04:57:53 PM »
Quote from: s197 on January 06, 2018, 04:12:19 PM
Ahh the memes. Is that, like, what the really smart people, like, do when they have, like, no comeback?

I don't know why he talks so much about Wharton anyway, his own pressor at Wharton called him the dumbest student he ever had.

https://www.studyinternational.com/news/trump-student-wharton/

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Trump
« Reply #78 on: January 07, 2018, 12:36:17 AM »
From a Moderator:

Quote from: Heavies on January 05, 2018, 09:56:02 AM
Everyone has an opinion, and is entitled to discuss it.  Stop the memes and off topic arguing.

SnowFlapp
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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #79 on: January 09, 2018, 09:04:33 AM »
Remember Trumps about misdirection.  The media was concerned about Bannon and Trump, then all of a sudden out of the blue, Sessions says he wants to enforce federal MJ law.
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