PSM RECOMMENDS SB 2046 TO PASS W/O AMENDMENTS.

The committee(s) on PSM recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, UNAMENDED. The votes in PSM were as follows: 5 Aye(s): Senator(s) Nishihara, Wakai, Baker, Ihara, L. Thielen; Aye(s) with reservations: none ; 0 No(es): none; and 0 Excused: none.

oh crap

I really wish our legislators would make sure that all these "decision making" meetings were available live and/or recorded so we could all see how they look at 120 to 6 opposition and reason their way to a unanimous decision opposite the public input. Is that too much to ask? (Rhetorical question.)

oh crap x2

    

I bet passed just based on “bump stock” alone.

oh crap

My thought exactly.

 

Monkeys see and monkeys do. The inferiority complex with Hawaii Democrats blossomed again when they saw their Massachusetts counterparts passing their own Bump Stock Ban.

Like children saying "HEY LOOK AT US TOO!!!" 

Sorry.  Going to miss the views and the weather but I refuse to live in a tyrannical state.  Even had a good job offer and turned it down.


This place is hell on liberty loving American. 

Since this is on track to pass, we all need to becareful on how we  articulate our "intent" of lighter trigger installation.

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We got 1 more committee in the SENATE and the final vote, then 2 more committees in the HOUSE and the final vote, then the governor's approval.

Still got chances to defeat this if we keep it up.  120 opposing testimonies were a good start, we need more people and more organizations next time.

Edit:  Got it mixed up, forgot this is an SB. 1 senate committee and 2 house committees.

We got 1 more committee in the house and the final vote, then 2 more committees in the senate and the final vote, then the governor's approval.

Still got chances to defeat this if we keep it up.  120 opposing testimonies were a good start, we need more people and more organizations next time.

I talked to my rep, he seems opposed to this one, but he did submit a bill that is more specific. So hopefully he votes nay.

Can we get the shooters at kokohead involved? Seems like way more than 120 people go there in 1 day.

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I was thinking about getting help from HRA to setup a tent in the grass area on the weekend.  Volunteers encourage shooters to come down to fill out testimony on computers or on paper.  Multiple paper copies can be made, signed, and sealed in an envelope which is then hand delivered to the chair when a hearing is scheduled.

What this means is that these legislators don't care about what the people say despite 95% opposition.

A last ditch effort option if it reaches the final committee is to ask for an amendment to the bill to strip out the trigger modifications while keeping the bump stock and trigger crank bans.  This compromise has a better chance of succeeding  and would allow trigger modifications.  If we don't do this then we face a high likelihood of the complete bill passing which we may never get rid of.

I know one person who has a bump fire stock, and one other person who has the trigger crank.  obviously the crank is just for fun, 'cuz you can't aim for beans while cranking.  This is the same argument that the NRA ran into, one camp says "never give an inch", and the other camp says "death by a thousand cuts ain't so bad in the beginning".   what a dilemma.

S 2/6/2018: The committee(s) on PSM recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, UNAMENDED. The votes in PSM were as follows: 5 Aye(s): Senator(s) Nishihara, Wakai, Baker, Ihara, L. Thielen; Aye(s) with reservations: none ; 0 No(es): none; and 0 Excused: none.   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SB2046_.pdf   
SB2046   Firearms; Trigger Modification Devices; Bump Stocks   
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Prohibits trigger modification devices, including bump stocks, that are designed or function to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic firearm.   
Oppose.   K. RHOADS, S. CHANG, KEITH-AGARAN, NISHIHARA, Shimabukuro   PSM, JDC

Another option is to make the PD oppose this bill.  Amend it to require the PDs to inspect and certify all firearms for modifications at time of registration.  They would hate that.

Another option is to make the PD oppose this bill.  Amend it to require the PDs to inspect and certify all firearms for modifications at time of registration.  They would hate that.

1) Will LE be exempt from this bill?  I didn't see an "exclusion" section.

2) And can anyone confirm there is no grandfather clause.

3) Can someone explain how our bill to law process works?  I got the district rep proposes bill.  Then it goes to committee (5 people?)  who votes if it goes to...and how many people are involved.

Another option is to make the PD oppose this bill.  Amend it to require the PDs to inspect and certify all firearms for modifications at time of registration.  They would hate that.

Don’t think it should be left up to interpretation, by anyone really.

And I doubt the firearms department will care either way.

Don’t think it should be left up to interpretation, by anyone really.

And I doubt the firearms department will care either way.

PDs will hate it because they will need more personnel in the firearms section and they must be certified gunsmith on each type of firearm and modification.  An impossible task.