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Funtimes

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #120 on: April 16, 2012, 02:10:21 PM »
If i think someone is following me, I'm going to book it.  That way, there is no question.  If they start running, I know they are after me -- I won't stop to find out why lol.
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #121 on: April 16, 2012, 02:52:35 PM »
Quote from: Funtimes on April 16, 2012, 02:10:21 PM
If i think someone is following me, I'm going to book it.  That way, there is no question.  If they start running, I know they are after me -- I won't stop to find out why lol.

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hvybarrels

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #122 on: April 16, 2012, 04:51:06 PM »
What's worse than an a-hole cop?

An a-hole wannabe cop.
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Funtimes

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #123 on: April 20, 2012, 09:59:26 AM »
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/04/20/photo-new-image-shows-bloodied-head-of-george-zimmermans-after-trayvon-martin-scuffle/

New photograph, please discuss how you think this particular photograph will affect the Zimmerman case, or how it looks to you in corroborating Mr. Zimmermans story of being on the ground while being punched by Trayvon.



Photo Credit -- abc news team.
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DonRow

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #124 on: April 20, 2012, 11:31:35 AM »
Quote from: Funtimes on April 20, 2012, 09:59:26 AM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/04/20/photo-new-image-shows-bloodied-head-of-george-zimmermans-after-trayvon-martin-scuffle/

New photograph, please discuss how you think this particular photograph will affect the Zimmerman case, or how it looks to you in corroborating Mr. Zimmermans story of being on the ground while being punched by Trayvon.



Photo Credit -- abc news team.

No, that never happened. MSNBC said it didn't happen. FOX News is a right wing conspiracy.  ;D ;D

Yeah, now what everyone is so "quick" to jump on what the media say's, and is ready to "execute" this man no one wants to look at evidence anymore. The real "unedited" 911 tape came out on YouTube and what did you tube do, they pulled it off right away saying it "Violated their violence policy" when the tape didn't show a hit of Violence.. The frikin Media is out of control. Mahalo Chris for posting... :thumbsup: :geekdanc:
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #125 on: April 20, 2012, 11:42:27 AM »
Quote from: Funtimes on April 20, 2012, 09:59:26 AM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/04/20/photo-new-image-shows-bloodied-head-of-george-zimmermans-after-trayvon-martin-scuffle/

New photograph, please discuss how you think this particular photograph will affect the Zimmerman case, or how it looks to you in corroborating Mr. Zimmermans story of being on the ground while being punched by Trayvon.



Photo Credit -- abc news team.

I think the photo will silence people who claimed Zimmerman was lying about being attacked. There may be some disagreement about how serious the wound is (even minor head wounds bleed a lot), but I think that's rather beside the point.

The important question from this point on will be how that circumstance came to be. Was Trayvon fighting out of fear for his life after Zimmerman threatened him, either explicitly or implicitly, or was he the initiator? Were there any words exchanged?

Whose voice was it calling for help in the 911 recording? That may be the deciding factor.

Either way, I think 2nd degree murder is going to be a hard sell.
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Kingkeoni

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #126 on: April 20, 2012, 01:22:57 PM »
Quote from: antoinebugleboy on April 20, 2012, 11:42:27 AM
I think the photo will silence people who claimed Zimmerman was lying about being attacked.

Quote from: antoinebugleboy on April 04, 2012, 06:03:31 PM
From the photos and counterevidence I've seen, I think Zimmerman's testimony and his supposed injuries are exaggerated at best.

You mean, people like you?
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Funtimes

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #127 on: April 20, 2012, 01:42:02 PM »
The voice is zimmerman calling for help.  Trayvon's father has already said it's not his son.  Other people have claimed that it was zimmerman calling for help; one of the eye witnesses left to go call police, and in between there Trayvon was shot.

It doesn't matter how hard the blows are, if someone is on top of you - lethal force is authorized.   



---- If the glove does not fit, you must acquit ---
2nd Degree murder? Yeah right; this won't get that far.  Just as much as the Casey Anthony case did.
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DonRow

Trayvon Martin
« Reply #128 on: April 20, 2012, 01:52:29 PM »
Quote from: Funtimes on April 20, 2012, 01:42:02 PM
Casey Anthony

Oh God!! As a father of a beautiful girl. That frikin name just make my stomach turn. >:[
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Funtimes

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #129 on: April 20, 2012, 02:19:05 PM »
Quote from: DonRow on April 20, 2012, 01:52:29 PM
Oh God!! As a father of a beautiful girl. That frikin name just make my stomach turn. >:[

Could of had some justice if they didn't go for First Degree Murder...  should have been involuntary or manslaughter and she would be in jail!
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Aegis808

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #130 on: April 20, 2012, 03:01:44 PM »
Quote from: Funtimes on April 20, 2012, 01:42:02 PM
The voice is zimmerman calling for help.  Trayvon's father has already said it's not his son.  Other people have claimed that it was zimmerman calling for help; one of the eye witnesses left to go call police, and in between there Trayvon was shot.

It doesn't matter how hard the blows are, if someone is on top of you - lethal force is authorized.   



---- If the glove does not fit, you must acquit ---
2nd Degree murder? Yeah right; this won't get that far.  Just as much as the Casey Anthony case did.

The skull was hit, you must acquit!
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #131 on: April 20, 2012, 03:16:01 PM »
Quote from: Kingkeoni on April 20, 2012, 01:22:57 PM
You mean, people like you?

No, people who said he was lying.
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DonRow

Trayvon Martin
« Reply #132 on: April 20, 2012, 03:17:24 PM »
Quote from: Aegis808 on April 20, 2012, 03:01:44 PM
The skull was hit, you must acquit!
Lol I like that, that's good. Lol :)
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #133 on: April 20, 2012, 03:23:19 PM »
Quote from: Funtimes on April 20, 2012, 01:42:02 PM
The voice is zimmerman calling for help.  Trayvon's father has already said it's not his son.  Other people have claimed that it was zimmerman calling for help; one of the eye witnesses left to go call police, and in between there Trayvon was shot.

Not to cast doubt on your credibility, but just so we can all know beyond reasonable doubt, can you cite sources for these statements?

Quote from: Funtimes on April 20, 2012, 01:42:02 PM
It doesn't matter how hard the blows are, if someone is on top of you - lethal force is authorized.   

Agreed, but like I said, the case will depend on what led to the confrontation. If only after all this time we're seeing this picture, I'm sure there's a lot more we haven't seen or heard yet. We can only make best guesses based on all the available evidence, or, like some on this board, attack character and make insulting comments rather than employ logic.

Quote from: Funtimes on April 20, 2012, 01:42:02 PM
---- If the glove does not fit, you must acquit ---
2nd Degree murder? Yeah right; this won't get that far.  Just as much as the Casey Anthony case did.

I'm inclined to agree. The fallout is going to be ugly.
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Funtimes

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #134 on: April 20, 2012, 03:50:19 PM »
Quote from: antoinebugleboy on April 20, 2012, 03:23:19 PM
Not to cast doubt on your credibility, but just so we can all know beyond reasonable doubt, can you cite sources for these statements?

Agreed, but like I said, the case will depend on what led to the confrontation. If only after all this time we're seeing this picture, I'm sure there's a lot more we haven't seen or heard yet. We can only make best guesses based on all the available evidence, or, like some on this board, attack character and make insulting comments rather than employ logic.

I'm inclined to agree. The fallout is going to be ugly.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/orlandowesh-16122564/sanford-police-speak-out-in-trayvon-martin-case-28640523.html

I will point out, that there are apparently some "voice analysts" that are saying its not zimmerman, but they can't say it is trayvon.
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DonRow

Trayvon Martin
« Reply #135 on: April 21, 2012, 10:21:45 AM »
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Kingkeoni

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #136 on: April 21, 2012, 10:43:48 AM »
Quote from: DonRow on April 21, 2012, 10:21:45 AM
[URL http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/crime/alton-hayes-trayvon-martin-white-man-attacked-black-racist-racism-maywood-chicago-suburb-20120420]http://http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/crime/alton-hayes-trayvon-martin-white-man-attacked-black-racist-racism-maywood-chicago-suburb-20120420[/URL] Such outstanding citizens these people who support Trayvon Martin (clap, clap, clap)
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #137 on: April 21, 2012, 06:21:56 PM »
Quote from: DonRow on April 21, 2012, 10:21:45 AM
http://http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/crime/alton-hayes-trayvon-martin-white-man-attacked-black-racist-racism-maywood-chicago-suburb-20120420 Such outstanding citizens these people who support Trayvon Martin (clap, clap, clap)

Come on, Don. I can just as easily post links to StormFront pages supporting Zimmerman. What does either add to this conversation?
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DonRow

Trayvon Martin
« Reply #138 on: April 21, 2012, 06:45:56 PM »
Nothing I'm just trolling lol :)
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vooduchikn

Trayvon Martin
« Reply #139 on: April 21, 2012, 07:07:12 PM »
Quote from: antoinebugleboy on April 21, 2012, 06:21:56 PM
Come on, Don. I can just as easily post links to StormFront pages supporting Zimmerman. What does either add to this conversation?
it adds that... Awww screw it ....Simply that both sides are biased and that you should all shut the fuck up until the case is presented in court and stop acting like the main stream media; offering your disposition on what only two (and one is dead) know what actually happened that night.

Wait. Did i say that out loud?
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