Trayvon Martin (Read 80542 times)

robtmc

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2012, 03:45:00 PM »
A 911 operator told him not to chase, not a cop.  No obligation to follow those instructions.

As part of neighborhood watch, and particularly after prior burglaries, he was doing what the homeowners expected him to do, follow a suspicious person and call 911.

Heavies

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2012, 03:47:07 PM »
Ah, Hello, 911.  There is a suspicious guy in my house, I am armed. What should I do?

Sir, leave him alone.

Ok

Oh he's comming toward me!

Hold on we will be there in 20 minutes.


 :P

DonRow

Trayvon Martin
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2012, 06:23:14 PM »
Ah, Hello, 911.  There is a suspicious guy in my house, I am armed. What should I do?

Sir, leave him alone.

Ok

Oh he's comming toward me!

Hold on we will be there in 20 minutes.


 :P
remember that video from YouTube.

Funtimes

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2012, 11:46:07 PM »
A 911 operator told him not to chase, not a cop.  No obligation to follow those instructions.

As part of neighborhood watch, and particularly after prior burglaries, he was doing what the homeowners expected him to do, follow a suspicious person and call 911.

Well, they really only suggested that he did not "have to do that."   They did not say "Sir... do not follow him."

So much spin on this story. The way I see it, some punk got beat back by lawful self-defense.  I've only really read what the police department put out (the other stuff is just crap).  And, if people think that America gives a flying crap enough about making a big coverup for some latino killing a wanna be thug, then there are some people who need psych testing.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2012, 01:20:35 AM »
Of course they give a crap. The media is telling them to give a crap. That's the whole point. Just like the media told you n'ggers are all criminals who all need to be locked up and you swallowed it hook line and sinker. They are playing you just like they are playing the liberals trying to stoke the right vs. left fight and maybe even a race war so everyone will be too distracted to see what's really going on.



And you think Latino's can't be part of some crazy white supremacist bs? These are Floridiots were are talking about here. I've seen it with my own eyes. People believe whatever the brainwash box tells them. Notice all those prepper shows talk about natural disasters, oil crises, and nuclear war. Not one of them mentions a heavy-handed government crackdown on civil liberties which is exactly what we are experiencing right now.
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2012, 01:59:48 AM »
I heard the Hoodie was a 6'3" football player punk.....and the guy that shot him was a 5'9" under 200 lbs guy.  Why does the media put put pics like the guy was a scrawny kid?

Trayvon Martin Police Report

6'0" 160lbs. That's pretty scrawny.

I like Mossad Ayoob's op ed piece on this: http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2012/03/23/george-zimmerman-and-trayvon-martin-what-we-dont-know/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MassadAyoob+%28Massad+Ayoob%29
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WCMTWS

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2012, 12:26:44 PM »
I dont know..the dispatcher told Zimmerman not to follow him yet he did. The guy has a hood on and that is this guys reasoning for following him.

antoinebugleboy

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2012, 12:43:20 PM »
I'm surprised I only read one report that mentions that it was raining at the time. I don't know about you, but I pull my hood up when it rains.

But hood up during sunny weather? Surely grounds for a summary death sentence.
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Kingkeoni

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2012, 01:49:16 PM »
Listening to all the idiots convict Zimmerman and make ignorant statements without knowing the facts is the problem here.

When the investigation is complete and all the evidence weighed then justice will be served.

If this means that Zimmerman was wrong then he will be punished accordingly.

If this means that Trayvon attacked and assaulted Zimmerman, as the police report supports, then Zimmerman was within his rights to protect his life.

Hopefully the opinionated, sheep of the world can live with whatever the outcome is.

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Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2012, 07:14:10 PM »
And you think Latino's can't be part of some crazy white supremacist bs? These are Floridiots were are talking about here. I've seen it with my own eyes. People believe whatever the brainwash box tells them. Notice all those prepper shows talk about natural disasters, oil crises, and nuclear war. Not one of them mentions a heavy-handed government crackdown on civil liberties which is exactly what we are experiencing right now.

No. I really don't think a police department cares that much about some random Latino to cover up a national shooting on a black teenager.  Come on man, get real.  What would be so special about these two that an entire department says "OMG sweep this murder under!"
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Cougar8045

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2012, 09:54:36 PM »
The police chief who has now stepped down stated that Martin was 70 yards from his house when he died.  If he took off running for the front porch when he noticed Zimmerman getting out of his car, he'd have been home free about 10 seconds after Zimmerman said, "****, he's running." 

Everyone points out how little Martin was, and how much bigger Zimmerman was; which is a semi-valid point.  However, that only gets taken into account when talking about the fight.  Does anybody really believe that George Zimmerman was faster than Trayvon Martin?  The kid wasn't that big, and since he apparently made the cut on his high school football team, I feel pretty safe assuming he was pretty fleet of foot.

From the article:
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In an interview two weeks after the incident, Chief Lee said witness statements and physical evidence backed up Zimmerman's version of events. He suggested that based on the timing of the call, he believed that Trayvon went out of his way to approach the person tailing him and mouth off.

"If Trayvon has made it that far, and Zimmerman is getting out of his truck, why doesn't Trayvon keep walking?" Lee said. "He's 70 yards from his house. I think based on the timing of the call and Zimmerman losing sight of him, that he had made it to that 'T' (at the end of the path) and was starting to walk towards his house.

"My wish is that he would have kept walking."
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HiCarry

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2012, 03:32:10 PM »
No, the MSM isn't "gaming" its reporting to reach a forgone conclusion that Zimmerman is a racist.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-to-do-internal-investigation-on-zimmerman-segment/2012/03/31/gIQAc4HhnS_blog.html?hpid=z6

Seems NBC purposefully edited the 911 tapes to be more prejudical toward the "fact" that Zimmerman is obviously racist....

Kingkeoni

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2012, 07:09:26 PM »
No, the MSM isn't "gaming" its reporting to reach a forgone conclusion that Zimmerman is a racist.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-to-do-internal-investigation-on-zimmerman-segment/2012/03/31/gIQAc4HhnS_blog.html?hpid=z6

Seems NBC purposefully edited the 911 tapes to be more prejudical toward the "fact" that Zimmerman is obviously racist....

No way!

You mean the media purposely twisted the actual truth and reported a lie. A lie so the ignorant, opinionated sheeple of the world can rush to judgement.

I don't believe it.

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Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2012, 09:21:22 PM »
I agree with cougar.the evidence points to a righteous shooting. The rest of this comment is my OPINION.....no one I know who owns a gun likes to shoot people. But this kid got what he deserved. The attitude of black people since obama got elected is at times unbelieveable. Some of them feel above the law. America is being divided by racial lines and everybody who isnt black is losing. I hope Zimmerman seeks Godly counseling. I hope he survives. As for the rest of the black panthers and such......They wont listen to fact or truth even if it sat next to them in their black liberation church. As all liberals.
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HiCarry

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2012, 10:08:08 AM »
I think we don't yet have enough information to conclude what happened. Some of the evidence seems to contradicts other evidence. There is always a chance that there was some type of effort to protect Zimmerman (his father was a local Judge) or that Martin was the aggressor. Either way, we'll have to wait for the all the evidence and the investigation before we can say with any relaibility what happened.

What irks me is that the MSM immediately made this into a racial issue when there was absolutely no evidence at that time to suggest such a conclusion. Furthermore, when it was found out that Zimmerman was hispanic, they invented a new word, "white-hispanic" just so they could continue playing the race card. Then, despite the cries for justice for Zimmerman "taking the law into his own hands" both from the MSM and from "concerned citizens" the New Black Panthers basically say they want to take the law into their own hands and capture (and allude to killing him) Zimmerman. But where is the same level of outrage from the MSM and the "concerned citizens" about this blatent attempt at the vigilantism they so vehemently opposed when it came to Zimmerman's situation?

antoinebugleboy

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2012, 01:58:25 PM »
I agree with cougar.the evidence points to a righteous shooting. The rest of this comment is my OPINION.....no one I know who owns a gun likes to shoot people. But this kid got what he deserved. The attitude of black people since obama got elected is at times unbelieveable. Some of them feel above the law. America is being divided by racial lines and everybody who isnt black is losing. I hope Zimmerman seeks Godly counseling. I hope he survives. As for the rest of the black panthers and such......They wont listen to fact or truth even if it sat next to them in their black liberation church. As all liberals.
Pastor Dennis

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Colt808

Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2012, 03:52:31 PM »

I had the same reaction to those bolded lines...
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And I still see stupid people.

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Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2012, 11:38:24 PM »

I hear you guys.

I've pretty much stayed out of this on the mainland boards because so many people seem to like to present opinion as fact. 

I amazed at how one poster will express an opinion or idea as to what might have happened, and the next thing you know, two posts down someone will grab onto that opinion and re-state it as fact.

I am reminded of the 5th grade elementary school "Rumor Game," where the first kid in the class will be told a story and he tells it to the next kid, all the way through the 30 or so kids in the class.  By the time the last kid retells the story, it has been completely distorted.

I, too, would like more facts.

Not opinions misrepresented as facts.

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Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2012, 04:16:51 AM »
I've pretty much stayed out of this on the mainland boards because so many people seem to like to present opinion as fact. 

I amazed at how one poster will express an opinion or idea as to what might have happened, and the next thing you know, two posts down someone will grab onto that opinion and re-state it as fact.

I am reminded of the 5th grade elementary school "Rumor Game," where the first kid in the class will be told a story and he tells it to the next kid, all the way through the 30 or so kids in the class.  By the time the last kid retells the story, it has been completely distorted.

I, too, would like more facts.

Not opinions misrepresented as facts.

Terry, 230RN



That's why most so called "News" channels disgust me.  I do not hardly watch them anymore and when I do I have to do research on my own for corroborating stories to be sure they are telling the truth to my satisfaction, and most times that is impossible.  Oh well, might as not get more white hairs over anything, I'll go load some ammo.

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Re: Trayvon Martin
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2012, 07:03:38 AM »
MSM is the losers here!

http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-case-4-things-media-got-wrong-130500344.html

and I read around today and some media outlets still have the story all twisted up.

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