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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #180 on: September 19, 2018, 09:09:11 PM »
I think the Senate Democrats' biscuits is burning!





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Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #181 on: September 20, 2018, 04:48:03 AM »
Good for Grassley for not putting up with the Democrats shit. Also, I like the fact that his letter to the committee was made public. To me, transparency is key for our government.

Fox News is reporting that the deadline for CBF to respond to testify has been set for Friday. If they don’t hear from her on Friday the nominations are going to go forward.
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Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #182 on: September 20, 2018, 05:16:23 AM »
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drck1000

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #183 on: September 20, 2018, 07:52:00 AM »
Just read Grassley's letter.  I hope more folks take the time to read and fully digest it.  Though probably the folks that need to read it most will likely dismiss it as more lies. 

I like the factual statements, pointing out on what happened with Anita Hill, and calling out of Feinstein.   :thumbsup:

I just hope that voter bases for folks like Feinstein, HIrono, et al see through this BS. 
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changemyoil66

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #184 on: September 20, 2018, 09:07:09 AM »
I can't remember what year this happened
I can't remember what month or day
I can't remember who was there
I can't remember if I was the only female there
I can't remember who's home it was
I can't remember where this took place
I can't remember if I had been drinking that day
I can't remember how many people witnessed it
I do remember it was Kav who was doing it, oh wait, now maybe it was someone else

I want a full FBI investigation!!!!
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #185 on: September 20, 2018, 10:58:34 AM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on September 20, 2018, 09:07:09 AM
I can't remember what year this happened
I can't remember what month or day
I can't remember who was there
I can't remember if I was the only female there
I can't remember who's home it was
I can't remember where this took place
I can't remember if I had been drinking that day
I can't remember how many people witnessed it
I do remember it was Kav who was doing it, oh wait, now maybe it was someone else

I want a full FBI investigation!!!!

Add:

I can't remember how I got to the house.
I can't remember how I got home.
I can't remember if I was alone with 2 boys, or if I was alone with Kavanaugh and the second boy walked in on us.
I can't remember the names of all 4, 5, or 6 (?) people at the house.
I can't remember if Feinstein said I'd be paid by check or in cash.  Maybe it was direct deposit?  I can't remember my bank account number, or what bank I use.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #186 on: September 20, 2018, 11:12:36 AM »
Maybe she's just taking this too literally?

Quote
If you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember anything.

— Mark Twain
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #187 on: September 20, 2018, 11:26:01 AM »
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Judge Kavanaugh’s wife, Ashley Estes Kavanaugh, received violent threats this week following the
allegations against her husband, a senior Trump administration official said Thursday. The U.S.
Marshals Service is investigating the emails.

Mrs. Kavanaugh received two profane notes in her work email account in recent days, the official
said. Both notes, which have been reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, were sent from the same
email address.

Citing intelligence reports, the official said that “Threats, including to his (Judge Kavanaugh’s) wife,
have risen this week.”

One note to Mrs. Kavanaugh, a town manager in the Washington, D.C. suburbs read, “May you,
your husband and your kids burn in hell.”

The other, whose subject line reads, “Hi, Ashley,” said she should tell her husband to “put a bullet in
his … skull.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/senators-in-standoff-over-handling-of-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-allegations-1537451055
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #188 on: September 20, 2018, 11:31:27 AM »
FYI:

The Democrats, and the accuser's lawyer, are trying to get the FBI to delay the confirmation by opening an investigation into the allegations.  Delay is the objective.

Without rehashing jurisdiction details, the FBI is not supposed to investigate supreme court nominees unless they have jurisdiction.  Even if the Senate asks and begs and threatens, the FBI is not going to investigate.

The Senate, and the Senate alone, has the duty and right to "Advice and consent" in supreme court confirmations. The Senate has the duty to investigate if they feel this matter rises to the level of significance in advising and consenting on the nomination.

The Senate has all the resources they need to do this investigation.  They could have done this all during the 2 months Feinstein sat on the letter without mentioning it to the FBI or Senate Judiciary Committee -- up to the point where she leaked the letter to the press after the hearings were over.

The call for the FBI to investigate is a red herring.  The Senate, not the FBI, has that responsibility.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
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Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #189 on: September 20, 2018, 01:52:16 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on September 20, 2018, 09:07:09 AM
I can't remember what year this happened
I can't remember what month or day
I can't remember who was there
I can't remember if I was the only female there
I can't remember who's home it was
I can't remember where this took place
I can't remember if I had been drinking that day
I can't remember how many people witnessed it
I do remember it was Kav who was doing it, oh wait, now maybe it was someone else

I want a full FBI investigation!!!!
If she truly can’t remember what year this took place then how can she “know” she was 15 when it supposedly occurred? And if she knows she was 15 when this supposedly occurred, how could she not know what year it was? This is not passing the smell test IMHO.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #190 on: September 20, 2018, 03:00:10 PM »
Quote from: Inspector on September 20, 2018, 01:52:16 PM
If she truly can’t remember what year this took place then how can she “know” she was 15 when it supposedly occurred? And if she knows she was 15 when this supposedly occurred, how could she not know what year it was? This is not passing the smell test IMHO.

After over THREE DECADES, there's no way she can remember any details unless she has corroborating evidence, like a comment in her yearbook from that year from Kavanaugh or a date-stamped photo of the two of them together.

From some reports, her yearbooks have been expunged from the web, because they basically describe a school that partied and promoted promiscuity -- nothing short of a girl's version of Animal House.  Not very good info on her character if she participated.

I didn't drink until college, and never did recreational drugs, including pot. Yet, my high school memories become more run-together as the years pass. I have to refresh my memory with prom pics, yearbooks and other classmates' recollections to get even the major facts straight.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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drck1000

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #191 on: September 20, 2018, 03:26:59 PM »
CBF’s terms for appearing:

“Among the terms: Only members of the committee -- no lawyers -- can question her; Kavanaugh cannot be in the room at the time; and Kavanaugh must be questioned first.”

No lawyers? Kav can’t be in the room? Does she think they are still in HS? Yeah, she’s the alleged victim, but it’s not like Kav has a history of intimidating folks or stuff like that.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #192 on: September 20, 2018, 03:36:54 PM »
Quote from: drck1000 on September 20, 2018, 03:26:59 PM
CBF’s terms for appearing:

“Among the terms: Only members of the committee -- no lawyers -- can question her; Kavanaugh cannot be in the room at the time; and Kavanaugh must be questioned first.”

No lawyers? Kav can’t be in the room? Does she think they are still in HS? Yeah, she’s the alleged victim, but it’s not like Kav has a history of intimidating folks or stuff like that.

The list of demands keep changing. Before they required the FBI do a full investigation into HER accusations before any hearing.  I think they finally accepted that the FBI has no role or jurisdiction to do an investigation.  That was the "indefinite delay" the Dems are still pushing for.

All the other demands are just excuses they can point to when she fails to appear Monday.

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #193 on: September 20, 2018, 04:06:54 PM »
It's amazing to me there are people actually saying they believe Dr. Ford even though there's nothing she's offered by way of proof.  In fact, all evidence so far has pointed to her being a liar (or more gently, "confused").
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #194 on: September 20, 2018, 04:13:57 PM »
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
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drck1000

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #195 on: September 20, 2018, 04:27:21 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on September 20, 2018, 04:06:54 PM
It's amazing to me there are people actually saying they believe Dr. Ford even though there's nothing she's offered by way of proof.  In fact, all evidence so far has pointed to her being a liar (or more gently, "confused").
So many opinions written by women who said it happened to them so because of that, they beleive CBF. Well, what about all of the men who spent time in jail because of false rape accusations only to be later overturned after an initial rush to judgement.

I mean allegations should be taken seriously, but they need to be substantiated. Like Inspector said, this one just doesn’t pass the smell test.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #196 on: September 20, 2018, 04:40:59 PM »
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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punaperson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #197 on: September 20, 2018, 04:49:04 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on September 20, 2018, 03:00:10 PM
From some reports, her yearbooks have been expunged from the web, because they basically describe a school that partied and promoted promiscuity -- nothing short of a girl's version of Animal House.  Not very good info on her character if she participated.
Here are some of the relevant pages from the yearbooks. Saved a short time ago by someone who saw the expungement coming.

https://cultofthe1st.blogspot.com/2018/09/why-christine-blasey-fords-high-school_19.html?m=1
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #198 on: September 20, 2018, 04:51:31 PM »
Ford's lawyer now has added to their list of demands for attending a hearing Monday:

- Answer who really shot President Kennedy.

- Ford wants to be exempt from all taxes for life.

- She wants free healthcare for life under a plan of her choosing.

- She wants the electoral college eliminated.

- She wants Kavanaugh to pay her back alimony and child support from the time of the incident, as she would have become pregnant and married him if anything had actually happened.

If these requests are not met, the GOP in the Senate will be guilty of trying to silence this poor victim.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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punaperson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #199 on: September 20, 2018, 05:12:57 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on September 20, 2018, 04:51:31 PM
Ford's lawyer now has added to their list of demands for attending a hearing Monday:

- Answer who really shot President Kennedy.

- Ford wants to be exempt from all taxes for life.

- She wants free healthcare for life under a plan of her choosing.

- She wants the electoral college eliminated.

- She wants Kavanaugh to pay her back alimony and child support from the time of the incident, as she would have become pregnant and married him if anything had actually happened.

If these requests are not met, the GOP in the Senate will be guilty of trying to silence this poor victim.
I can guarantee you that if all those conditions were met tomorrow morning, there would be a new list of demands by tomorrow afternoon. Now matter what they do or don't do, the/we deplorables will be guilty. You will never win with these people. They can never get enough.

As with our opponents who want to strip all citizens of their ability to defend themselves with firearms from anyone who would attempt to harm them, this is a war.

May I suggest:

http://pluckingtheyew.blogspot.com/2015/12/arguing-with-leftists-is-nonsense.html

Excerpt:

Arguing With Leftists Is Nonsense

I say again. They hate you. They are at war with you. ANY tactic which advances their strategy will be used against you. If "A" didn't work last week, they will use "B" this week. "C" is on the agenda next week. It will never end. They are at war. Get it through your head. They will NEVER leave you alone. They can't. They are at war. You are the enemy. You have not been subdued. You are an enemy standing, armed, in defiance of their plan to dominate you. They are not nice people, well meaning but misguided. They are evil. They want absolute dominion over you. You stand firm in your Christian faith and they spew venom at you. They hate you and they hate your beliefs. You had best be ready and willing to reciprocate.

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