I found this on ForumsHawaii and traced it back to the original post on HawaiiShooters. It looks like a deputy sheriff is pushing the issue of standard capacity AR-15 mags being illegal. This issue won't truly be decided until someone is charged and there is a decision in court. I wouldn't want to be the first test case, though.

Recently, received my Mid Pacific Pistol League newsletter. In it, an insert explaining recent events where a deputy sheriff contacted the AG's office for a legal opinion re: high capacity AR-15 magazines in Hawaii. AG's opinion is that AR-15 magazines that hold more than 10 are illegal.

If anyone can find the opinion in writing, please post it.

As of now, no standard capacity AR/AK/Mini-14/Sten magazines allowed in club matches.

MPPL Newletter insert explaining new 10 round limit on rifle magazines during club matches(PDF, 71kb)

So is there going to be a run on hi cap mags now?

Nah, they're all just gonna disappear

Nah, they're all just gonna disappear

I guess you're right.

Just hold on to them and don't bring them out until:

A. They're proven to be legal
B. The world is coming to an end, in which case magazine laws don't matter anyway

So is there going to be a run on hi cap mags now?

I think you mean that there's going to be a run on standard capacity magazines now. 

Standard capacity is what the gun is designed to handle.  In the case of the AR, 30 rounds is standard.  Calling it "Hi Cap" merely reinforces the idea pushed by gun control and accepted by the ignorant that it's something more dangerous than anyone needs.

Unless you're referring to a 100 round Beta drum.  In which case, I think that Hi Cap would be appropriate.

Quote from: Jaydawg on February 20, 2010, 04:13:28 PM

So is there going to be a run on hi cap mags now?

I think you mean that there's going to be a run on standard capacity magazines now. 

Standard capacity is what the gun is designed to handle.  In the case of the AR, 30 rounds is standard.  Calling it "Hi Cap" merely reinforces the idea pushed by gun control and accepted by the ignorant that it's something more dangerous than anyone needs.

Unless you're referring to a 100 round Beta drum.  In which case, I think that Hi Cap would be appropriate.

Thanks.   

At least I didn't call them "clips."

Quote from: Jaydawg on February 20, 2010, 04:13:28 PM

So is there going to be a run on hi cap mags now?

I think you mean that there's going to be a run on standard capacity magazines now. 

Standard capacity is what the gun is designed to handle.  In the case of the AR, 30 rounds is standard.  Calling it "Hi Cap" merely reinforces the idea pushed by gun control and accepted by the ignorant that it's something more dangerous than anyone needs.

Unless you're referring to a 100 round Beta drum.  In which case, I think that Hi Cap would be appropriate.

I like this sentiment a lot.  Here in Hawaii we've become so brainwashed by our strict gun laws that we view anything above ten rounds as something special.  The manufacturers ship them out with the 30 round mag, that's probably how the guns were intended to be used. 

Here in Hawaii we've become so brainwashed by our strict gun laws that we view anything above ten rounds as something special.

It's not only here, it's the entire nation, too much watching/reading msm.

Hi all...new here. I moved to Oahu last September. I'm really sorry if this has been discussed here before; I tried doing a search but wasn't successful. I'm really confused regarding the supposed "grey area" surround AR magazine capacity. I fail to understand how a law CLEARLY stating that it applies to PISTOLS (aka handguns) is being enforced for rifles (read: held with 2 hands and shoulder fired).

“The  manufacture, possession, sale, barter, trade, gift, transfer, or acquisition of detachable 
ammunition magazines with a capacity in excess of ten rounds which are designed for or capable of 
use with a pistol is prohibited."  Haw. Rev. St at. § 134­8(c). 

What am I missing?! 

- Alex

Hi all...new here. I moved to Oahu last September. I'm really sorry if this has been discussed here before; I tried doing a search but wasn't successful. I'm really confused regarding the supposed "grey area" surround AR magazine capacity. I fail to understand how a law CLEARLY stating that it applies to PISTOLS (aka handguns) is being enforced for rifles (read: held with 2 hands and shoulder fired).

“The  manufacture, possession, sale, barter, trade, gift, transfer, or acquisition of detachable 
ammunition magazines with a capacity in excess of ten rounds which are designed for or capable of 
use with a pistol is prohibited."  Haw. Rev. St at. § 134­8(c). 

What am I missing?! 

- Alex

Welcome Alex! 

Because the AR platform includes a pistol version it makes the mags capable of being used in a rifle or pistol configuration.  Although we are not allowed to register these, the fact that it is manufactured, and out in circulation, is what prohibits us from owning AR magazines of more than 10 rounds.  In a nutshell, its just another way for Hawaii's liberal minded law makers to make things difficult for us.

For example, 30 or 20 round mags for M1As, Ruger Mini-14s, and FALs, to name a few, are not manufactured in pistol configurations.  Therefore owning them or selling them is not in violation.  Most online vendors will not even ship those because they are unclear of the law here and may not care to find out. 

Next to Kalifornia, New York, and Chicago, Hawaii is amongst the most anti-gun states in US.  I love this place and will always call it home, but Hawaii is not always  "paradise", for gun owners.  BUT, all of us here hope to change that. = )

Here is an example of an AR pistol.  Dont you want one???

I have to admit, I do want one of those. And a Draco.

Wow...just...wow.

What a ridiculous interpretation of the law. This is just another way for lawmakers to aid criminals and hurt the law-abiding citizens. Oh well, I'm still going to order my Stag Arms M8 this weekend. Thanks for the help gents...

- Alex

In addition to the common interpretation of a "pistol" understand that the HRS defines pistol as any gun with a barrel less than 16 inches. So many SBRs are included. This is important because there are many SBR variations of "regular" rifles and therefore the same restrictions on those magazines apply.

And, remember, when registering your firearms with HPD, do not take your magazines in with you. It's not required and avoids any potential that an "illegal" magazine gets you into hot water....and that possession of an illegal magazine is a misdemenor, but if inserted into a firearm is a class C felony.

Welcome to Hawaii.....Aloha

Wow...just...wow.

What a ridiculous interpretation of the law. This is just another way for lawmakers to aid criminals and hurt the law-abiding citizens. Oh well, I'm still going to order my Stag Arms M8 this weekend. Thanks for the help gents...

- Alex

pics of M8 please...

Didn't get the M8...instead popped into Security Equipment Corp. and ordered a Sig P229 Elite Dark in .40 S&W w/ .22 LR conversion kit (and a few extra mags of course). Gotta love the Individual Officer Program that they have...
Now I just have to wait 6-ish weeks for it to get here and the paperwork to get approved.    I'll post pics once she arrives.
 
- Alex

Great, I love new pics