Did the parade start?  May be someone with a view of the freeway can post a pic or video of the charade, I mean parade.

cousin was watching on kalanianaole
said the "parade" is limited to one lane
but traffic was backed up through Hawaii kai to Waimanalo side
so now people are driving because they were blocked and the other trucks are trying to catch up to the parade

Wonder if they enforce recon and safety check laws? 

Not video, but couple of reports from friends who have seen and been affected.

1) Left turn on Kal Hwy blocked off even when the convoy wasn’t even in the area or even close.
2) Seemed like the “organized” group of 70-80 or so were following agreement. However, lots of late adds and folks coming along that seemed to be jamming things up.

Glad no plans to go anywhere today. AC on, plenty of food and football.

This should really rally support for the A'ole TMT Movement.  Inconvenience thousands of people. 

In my subdivision, 40% of the houses no mo permits.  How do I know?  I went on the county website and see
lots with houses on them listed as vacant lots and no building permit issued.  These houses were already
there when I moved here 5 years ago.  Probably the same through most of Puna in areas not heavily populated
and are divided into larger lots.  People just build way in the back where no can see from da road. 

Mo powwah to dem an ainokea wat dey do az long as no bahda me.

Those are the people more concerned with "I get what I can afford now" than they are "what if I ever want to sell this place one day?"

Having no structure on "the books" also screws over the tax man.  Just pay for the land value -- no house.

And, since many of those houses aren't on the electric, water or sewer systems, they aren't using the infrastructure their taxes would help support.

In some places, just collecting rain water is a crime.   

There are pluses and minuses to not getting permits.  Legally, some are required for specific work (building a large structure) and some are not (doing your own repairs and renovations).

Glad no plans to go anywhere today. AC on, plenty of food and football.

TFTI

In some places, just collecting rain water is a crime.   

Now that is some bullsheeet. What logic behind making rainwater collection illegal?

There is no county water or sewer system where I live.  No paved road or mail service either. About 3 miles away, still in my subdivision, there is a huge 3 story housing structure that keeps getting bigger as more people move there.  I think there are about 30 Micronesians living there and it can easily be seen from the unpaved road.

Now that is some bullsheeet. What logic behind making rainwater collection illegal?

The rationale is that all those connected to the water system must share the cost in order to make it affordable to all as well as generate enough revenue for operations and maintenance.

If, let's say, 20% of customers suddenly stop using 90% of their former demand for city water, those lower bills affect the "collective" which has to make up the shortfall through rate hikes.

It's basically a Socialist model of compliance.  All must contribute, or the system fails.

We see that in Hawaii with solar energy adoption.  The more people install solar, the less electricity from the HECO/MECO/HELCO plants they use.  The issue is, the power company can't just reduce their costs by reducing production.  At night and on cloudy/rainy days, those customers will demand the same amount of power they did before they had solar.  Hence, the power company must maintain the capacity to supply the solar-owning customers on their non-solar days/nights.

That means the power company has to charge everyone else more to offset the cost of energy production.

So, the rationale isn't inaccurate, but it does fly in the face of freedom and choice.

So there’s a concrete pump truck one of leading vehicles in the convoy 😳

Now that is some bullsheeet. What logic behind making rainwater collection illegal?

When I lived in WA state is it was very illegal.
I did it anyway.  The idea that a person could
get water free and without government control
was totally un-acceptable there.
It almost was the case  here. The VA was refusing to loan
money to vets unless the house was on Government water.
They lost that case.  Big Island Hawaii government is so
useless that they can't provide water to their citizens.
So we do it ourselves.

The rationale is that all those connected to the water system must share the cost in order to make it affordable to all as well as generate enough revenue for operations and maintenance.

If, let's say, 20% of customers suddenly stop using 90% of their former demand for city water, those lower bills affect the "collective" which has to make up the shortfall through rate hikes.

It's basically a Socialist model of compliance.  All must contribute, or the system fails.

We see that in Hawaii with solar energy adoption.  The more people install solar, the less electricity from the HECO/MECO/HELCO plants they use.  The issue is, the power company can't just reduce their costs by reducing production.  At night and on cloudy/rainy days, those customers will demand the same amount of power they did before they had solar.  Hence, the power company must maintain the capacity to supply the solar-owning customers on their non-solar days/nights.

That means the power company has to charge everyone else more to offset the cost of energy production.

So, the rationale isn't inaccurate, but it does fly in the face of freedom and choice.

I get the cost of infrastructure and maintenance, but self sufficiency should be encouraged and even rewarded. To me, it’s the mismanagement of the system that’s the main issue. This is having worked at the Board of Water Supply and having family that worked there for decades.

I get the cost of infrastructure and maintenance, but self sufficiency should be encouraged and even rewarded. To me, it’s the mismanagement of the system that’s the main issue. This is having worked at the Board of Water Supply and having family that worked there for decades.

Self-sufficiency is antithetical to the Liberal/Socialist/Leftist/Collective mindset.  People who can hunt, build, live off the land and not depend on government are the kinds of people Red Flag laws were meant to weed out.

HPD escorted the 70 or so allowed in the permit.  Looked more like 100, probably more.  They had to stay in one lane but HPD stopped all traffic behind them. 
From videos I've seen on the freeway looked like traffic was held back for them. 
Original plan was HK, freeway,  through Waipahu and Kapolei.
Police kept them on the freeway the entire way

Undoubtedly everyone not in the original parade exercised their kapu aloha and followed all laws.  Haha

Their program started at 12 with protocol and whatever else they do

There's also been a memo(kahea) going around online that the national guard is showing up tomorrow and there is a high possibility of clearing the road and arrests.  All who are able are encourage to get to the mountain. 

Should be fun to watch

There's also been a memo(kahea) going around online that the national guard is showing up tomorrow and there is a high possibility of clearing the road and arrests.  All who are able are encourage to get to the mountain. 

Should be fun to watch

If anyone in government had a clue, they'd have been sending out fake memos within the groups saying the National Guard is coming every week or so.

Then, when the troops don't appear -- time after time -- everyone would be conditioned to not believe the memos.

After that is when the Guard shows up ... and nobody else bothers to come.      

The problem is our Hawaii government is run by a bunch of clueless screw ups.

Last week there was apparently some mini-parade of $$ 4WD pickups with flags north on Alii dr here in Kona.  Coming down the hill from my gym I was turning left.

Couple of POS Harleys were parked in the Kuakini-Palani intersection blocking through traffic, so the pickup truck parade could turn left.  If I was at the head of the line and the light went green, depending on my temper, I would have driven straight ahead and cut through their little parade. 

Going left, moot point.  No way do I obey self appointed traffic cops.

The problem is our Hawaii government is run by a bunch of clueless screw ups.

Why do you insult clueless screw ups?

so what's next?