And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell? (Read 8873 times)

eyeeatingfish

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2019, 08:18:27 PM »
We as the gun community need to come up with a better idea to address these shootings and figure out how to prevent them.

At this rate we are going to lose AR15 type weapons.

We need to study this phenomenon intensively, try to find out what went on inside these people's heads, the warning signs, the motivations, etc. Trump signed a bill that allows the CDC to conduct gun violence research so hopefully that will produce some useful information.

Heavies

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2019, 09:25:35 PM »
We as the gun community need to come up with a better idea to address these shootings and figure out how to prevent them.

At this rate we are going to lose AR15 type weapons.

We need to study this phenomenon intensively, try to find out what went on inside these people's heads, the warning signs, the motivations, etc. Trump signed a bill that allows the CDC to conduct gun violence research so hopefully that will produce some useful information.

Gun community can't do squat at this point.

Both political parties refuse to investigate the real causes of these atrocities,  and refuse to address the reasons.  They have zero interest in abiding their oaths and zero interest in individual freedom at this point.

It's pretty much over for free America.

That's my opinion

I hope I'm wrong, but that's my opinion.   

changemyoil66

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2019, 09:27:08 PM »
We know a common denominator, but the media and others refuse to focus on it. Events are used to grab guns plain and simple.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2019, 09:30:53 PM »
Gun community can't do squat at this point.

Both political parties refuse to investigate the real causes of these atrocities,  and refuse to address the reasons.  They have zero interest in abiding their oaths and zero interest in individual freedom at this point.

It's pretty much over for free America.

That's my opinion

I hope I'm wrong, but that's my opinion.

Well you and I as individuals have very little power to influence but the NRA is quite powerful. Now granted I may have missed it but I haven't seen them lobby for any sort of legislation that would go towards addressing active shooters at all.

eyeeatingfish

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2019, 09:31:36 PM »
We know a common denominator, but the media and others refuse to focus on it. Events are used to grab guns plain and simple.

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What do you think is the common denominator? Nearly all of them are male but I don't think that is what you were getting at.

changemyoil66

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2019, 09:32:34 PM »
What do you think is the common denominator? Nearly all of them are male but I don't think that is what you were getting at.
Dig deeper.

Give a man a fish...

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Heavies

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2019, 09:38:49 PM »
What do you think is the common denominator? Nearly all of them are male but I don't think that is what you were getting at.

It's not hard to see at all if you just look at it all.  Of course it has zero to do with guns, however,  No sense in spelling it out. If the government want to go all tyrannical, discussing it won't do much.

eyeeatingfish

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2019, 09:48:32 PM »
Dig deeper.

Give a man a fish...

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Well I can list a few more but it would be easier if you just tell me which one you think is such a signifiant factor.

zippz

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2019, 11:20:35 PM »
We as the gun community need to come up with a better idea to address these shootings and figure out how to prevent them.

This was an awful tragedy but let's put things into perspective.  The 2nd amendment is always the scapegoat when it comes to rights and saving lives.

To save lives we could...
Restrict of freedom of speech so the news can't sensationalize issues and ban speech the majority don't agree with.

Ban religion.

Remove due process so it's easier to put people in prison or institutionalize them.

Practice cruel and unusual punishment as a deterrent and ensure criminals can't harm anyone again.

And so on.   Any of those would be comparable to banning assault rifles to save lives.

There are other things society can work on...

Teach personal responsibility and morals
end the entitlement mindset.
Promote self defense and end reliance on the police
Promote success and achievement
Bring back community involvement instead of relying on government.
Compassion and helping others.
And so on....


changemyoil66

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2019, 08:55:14 AM »
This was an awful tragedy but let's put things into perspective.  The 2nd amendment is always the scapegoat when it comes to rights and saving lives.

To save lives we could...
Restrict of freedom of speech so the news can't sensationalize issues and ban speech the majority don't agree with.

Ban religion.

Remove due process so it's easier to put people in prison or institutionalize them.

Practice cruel and unusual punishment as a deterrent and ensure criminals can't harm anyone again.

And so on.   Any of those would be comparable to banning assault rifles to save lives.

There are other things society can work on...

Teach personal responsibility and morals
end the entitlement mindset.
Promote self defense and end reliance on the police
Promote success and achievement
Bring back community involvement instead of relying on government.
Compassion and helping others.
And so on....

You mean how Venuzuala did when they started their gun confiscation in 06?

changemyoil66

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2019, 09:37:40 AM »
So Ohio supported Bernie and Warren.  And Antifa.  Bet this disappears.

Some found an old obituary that showed the shooter died in 2014.  Pic and everything. #tinfoil

RSN172

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2019, 09:43:24 AM »
Trump won Ohio in 2016.
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changemyoil66

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2019, 10:12:52 AM »
Trump won Ohio in 2016.

Refereed to Ohio as in the shooting location.  The shooter supported Bernie and Warren and Antifa.

Interesting how the FBI labeled Q and tinfoils as terrorist.  2 days later all these shootings, and in red states.

groveler

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2019, 11:27:19 AM »
This was an awful tragedy but let's put things into perspective.  The 2nd amendment is always the scapegoat when it comes to rights and saving lives.

To save lives we could...
Restrict of freedom of speech so the news can't sensationalize issues and ban speech the majority don't agree with.

Ban religion.

Remove due process so it's easier to put people in prison or institutionalize them.

Practice cruel and unusual punishment as a deterrent and ensure criminals can't harm anyone again.

And so on.   Any of those would be comparable to banning assault rifles to save lives.

There are other things society can work on...

Teach personal responsibility and morals
end the entitlement mindset.
Promote self defense and end reliance on the police
Promote success and achievement
Bring back community involvement instead of relying on government.
Compassion and helping others.
And so on....
"Teach personal responsibility and morals
end the entitlement mindset.
Promote self defense and end reliance on the police
Promote success and achievement
Bring back community involvement instead of relying on government.
Compassion and helping others.
And so on...."

How do you propose to get rid of Democrats to accomplish your
suggestions?

RSN172

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2019, 01:35:38 PM »

Practice cruel and unusual punishment as a deterrent and ensure criminals can't harm anyone again.


Put me in charge of that one.  I have ideas that probably have not been tried before, like hanging them naked 35 ft in front of my wood chipper and blasting them with wood chips but stop before they die.  Don’t want the fun to end too soon.
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changemyoil66

Re: And now a shooting in Dayton Ohio...what the hell?
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2019, 02:24:54 PM »
They should make it every person and immediate family who was affected (dead or wounded) gets to chose 1 form of punishment.  Skys the limit.   But it will be  a lottery as to who goes in what order.  Especially if there are 40+ people affected.  You can also sell you turn in line to another victim if you wish.