Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check (Read 8442 times)

changemyoil66

Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« on: August 12, 2019, 02:46:45 PM »
DNC pushing this bill.

Not that it really matters here because of you know registration and "RAPBACK". I'm still gonna email my senators to vote against this bill.

ren

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2019, 02:48:09 PM »
so a citizen trying to protect themselves need to let the govt know ? or face confiscation?
and how would they define body armor?
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RSN172

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2019, 02:57:56 PM »
Better ban all those bullet proof school backpacks while they're at it.
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changemyoil66

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2019, 03:34:03 PM »
Better ban all those bullet proof school backpacks while they're at it.

Not  a ban, just gotta check with FBI first, probably NICS system.  So a 5 year old will have to go to a store that sells them and bring a valid photo ID.  Then sign the release to do the check.  But because they're a minor, their parent or guardian will have to sign the release.  And they need to bring photo ID and birth certificate or legal guardianship paperwork to show they can sign for the minor.

macsak

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2019, 03:56:08 PM »
DNC pushing this bill.

Not that it really matters here because of you know registration and "RAPBACK". I'm still gonna email my senators to vote against this bill.

good thing I don't own any body armor either...

drck1000

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2019, 04:21:37 PM »
good thing I don't own any body armor either...
I can neither confirm nor deny that I may or may not have purchased such items in the past. . .  :crazy:

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RSN172

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2019, 04:23:59 PM »
Not  a ban, just gotta check with FBI first, probably NICS system.  So a 5 year old will have to go to a store that sells them and bring a valid photo ID.  Then sign the release to do the check.  But because they're a minor, their parent or guardian will have to sign the release.  And they need to bring photo ID and birth certificate or legal guardianship paperwork to show they can sign for the minor.
Banning is easier.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2019, 05:13:07 PM »
What criteria, exactly, will the FBI use to approve/deny the purchase of body armor?

"Do you have a medical marijuana card, an arrest for DUI or a history of substance abuse? If you answer "YES", there's no need for armor.  You're invincible!"

"Q1:  Do you intend to use the requested armor for unlawful activities, such as gang violence, public shootings or any other violence which might involve law enforcement intervention?"

"Q2:  If you answered "YES" to Q1, place your hands on your head, interlock your fingers, and an officer will be with you shortly."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2019, 08:18:38 PM »
America is dying....

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2019, 08:22:45 PM »
America is dying....

America is ill.

We have a cancer.

It can be cured, but it might require a radical Tardectomy..
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

19pontiac79

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2019, 12:33:08 PM »
So stupid. You should be able to buy body armor at the supermarket. So you know if some one shoots you in one you got little better chance of you know not dying from bullet wounds. :shaka:
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"Why? The ring no block the hole." - Uncle's 😘
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2019, 12:49:38 PM »
So stupid. You should be able to buy body armor at the supermarket. So you know if some one shoots you in one you got little better chance of you know not dying from bullet wounds. :shaka:

Buy it?

Just make it ...

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

19pontiac79

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2019, 06:26:15 PM »
Side note since we hawaii. Getting stabbed is more likely I think. How does body armor made for ballistics stand up to a good ole shanking?
"if can. Can. If no can. No can" - Uncles 😆
"Why? The ring no block the hole." - Uncle's 😘
"You can throw a rock any distance and you will hit a double standard. = LIFE" 🤷🏽‍♂️

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2019, 06:34:09 PM »
Side note since we hawaii. Getting stabbed is more likely I think. How does body armor made for ballistics stand up to a good ole shanking?

Some do, some don't.  Steel will stop penetration if they stab you where the armor is.  Ballistic panels are less effective against thin metal blades.

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If a vest features stab protection, it will not necessarily be bullet proof. Equally, a bullet proof vest may offer no protection
to bladed weapons. Also, a vest which is bullet and edged blade resistant may offer no protection to spike threats (i.e.
screwdrivers, knitting needles, syringes etc.)

Given these facts, you must carefully consider the threats in your environment, and decide which protection levels are most
suitable for your needs. Only then can you know which level of ballistic and/or stab and/or spike protection you should select.

https://www.safeguardclothing.com/articles/difference-between-a-stab-and-bullet-proof-vest/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2019, 05:44:20 PM »
I have "access" to an old soft armor type vest.  I think Level IIIA (or not even).  Might be a good "test" for a range day.  Knives, pistol, then long guns.   ;D

changemyoil66

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2019, 10:39:21 PM »
They have body armor rated for knives and will state it.  If not, then its not.

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zippz

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2019, 07:35:14 AM »
Side note since we hawaii. Getting stabbed is more likely I think. How does body armor made for ballistics stand up to a good ole shanking?

Soft armor will stop slashes, but most slashes occur to your arms as you block.

Might help to deflect a glancing stab, but a direct thrust will go through.

drck1000

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2019, 08:38:59 AM »
They have body armor rated for knives and will state it.  If not, then its not.

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changemyoil66

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2019, 09:06:39 AM »
You should have enough tinfoil at home that you can fashion your own armor. . .  :P

Bro, can't be wasting tin foil.  Prison style, phone books.

changemyoil66

Re: Body Armor Purchases to Require FBI Check
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2019, 09:13:07 AM »
Soft armor will stop slashes, but most slashes occur to your arms as you block.

Might help to deflect a glancing stab, but a direct thrust will go through.

There's a pic that I can't find that was used on the movie "Keep and bear".  Officer was stabbed inside a hospital.  Officer is 6"2, 240lbs and a 4th degree black belt or something.  The other guy was 5"2, 110lbs.  He suffered huge slashes on his chest and back, prob just above the vest.

IIRC basically the slash on his back was from shoulder to shoulder (Upper back), and so was the slash on his chest, just below the collar bone.