Poll

Rail

Yea
11.9%
Nay
73.8%
I don't care one way or the other.
14.3%
Total Members Voted
42

Rail? Yea or Nay (Read 21059 times)

tuor

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2012, 11:12:24 AM »
Against.  When you can't even maintain what you have right now, what makes you think you will maintain a rail system?   It's like a parent talking to a child - no toy train because you don't take care of your other toys. 
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Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2012, 01:30:40 PM »

hnl.flyboy

Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2012, 07:03:49 PM »
^^^I was for the Rail in the beginning.  After I did a bit more research I switched my view.

Same here. Went from pro-rail to indifferent and now to against rail.
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Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2012, 05:55:20 AM »
It's funny when you start seeing the cover-up unfold. It's even funnier when all the things the anti-rail people were saying were going to happen actually start happening. It's even funnier when we start seeing the costs escalating in the beginning of the project from 70m to 220m just for buying properties not even worth the 70m. Sorry, guess its not very funny.  :(

Tom Berg has been on the forefront of exposing all the cover-ups, cost over runs and lies. I hope he is re-elected.
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Jl808

Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2012, 06:04:38 AM »
Didn't Tom just get beat by Kim Pine in the primary?
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Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2012, 06:05:58 AM »
 
Sorry to say I won't be able to vote for him.  The re districting of Ewa Beach has left us in the wrong district.  Kim Pine has dissappointed me greatly because of her attempting to oust Berg from the city council seat.  Berg's unusual politics is a fresh breeze that blows the stink away from the staus quo.  At least a little little bit of the stink anyways. Lol

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« Last Edit: August 16, 2012, 08:54:49 AM by Jl808 »
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macsak

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2012, 12:47:31 PM »
i know i am going to sound like a kim pine apologist, but you need to research the guy who made that site
does it really seem like the writings of a stable individual?
he has been in a dispute with rep pine and some others re:web hosting payments for a while

info should be available through the daily paper(s)

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steve

Agreed... Despite his personality flaws and the way the media portrays Berg, I thought Berg was on the right track.  Sad he got ousted by Kim, who seemed to have a personal score to settle with Berg*.

[edited]  * - Source added:

http://www.kympineisacrook.com/pdfs/Excerpt_from%20Pine_Extortion_and_Bribery_Evidence_2010-2011.pdf
http://www.kympineisacrook.com/pdfs/Official_Transcript_of_Pine_Berg_Ryan_E-mail_Messages_re_Gollner.pdf
http://www.kympineisacrook.com/

http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/can-online-activists-eliminate-politicians-that-dont-understand-the-internet/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57366443-281/hawaii-may-keep-track-of-all-web-sites-visited/

Inspector

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2012, 05:36:29 PM »
Didn't Tom just get beat by Kim Pine in the primary?
Get beat? She got more votes than he did. But because she didn't get 50.1% of the vote, the top two finishers will face off in the General Election.

http://www.khon2.com/news/local/story/City-Council-District-1-Kymberly-Pine-vs-Tom-Berg/K2k2ov6WLUub1aLa1S01rQ.cspx?p=Comments

Just like Kymberly Pine I am also a Tom Berg supporter:

"During this election, Berg, who is technically media savvy, created a series of campaign radio advertisements using Pine's own public statements complimenting him while he was employed by her. The ads leave the impression Pine is endorsing Berg in his challenge against her."

These commercials were quite funny when I heard them!!!!!  :rofl:

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/pine-berg-battle-ahead-of-general-election-that-determines-which-of-them-represents-city-council-district-1/123

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Inspector

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2012, 05:39:23 PM »
...Sad he got ousted by Kim, who seemed to have a personal score to settle with Berg*.
It is not over yet. Vote for Tom in the General Election and keep Pine out of District 1.
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BananaClip

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2012, 11:56:14 AM »
If all the people who wanted the rail, were the only ones paying for the rail, they wouldn't go for the rail...simple :sleeping:

I work side by side with people that don't suggest, argue, question, care or show up to union meetings when we havem..

But as soon as whatever we fight for gets passed, those benchwarmers reap all the benefits we fought for....lame :wacko:

Make everyone have a registered "ALPHABET" on their registration sticker so only certain people get to drive their vehicles

on certain days of the week....like the old days...... NO MONEY NEEDED for that.....  :-\

A lot of people seem to think "FREEDOM" means doing whatever we want when and where we want...without laws and rules..scary :shake:

Hmmmmm I wonder if there's something only I want, that someone else can pay for... ::)

I need some debt payed off....... "IMUA DEBT!"...... Yeah yeah that sounds more like it ;D
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Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2012, 12:02:19 PM »
^^ Heck Yeah!  ^^

Ive got this pesky mortgage, and these bills, and shooting consumables...  I really wish you all would pay these for me!   I AM ENTITLED TO IT!

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evosil98

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2012, 12:32:15 PM »
Nay on the rail.

hvybarrels

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2012, 07:47:00 PM »
Everywhere I've lived I've used rail extensively if it's available. I love trains and subways. Problem with this one is I'll never use it, because the whole purpose of it is to pave over the last viable farmland with projects like Ho'opili. They can't build another city without rail since the highways are already at capacity.

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Jl808

Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2012, 08:28:18 PM »
It is not over yet. Vote for Tom in the General Election and keep Pine out of District 1.

Good to hear -- I hope Tom Berg stays on.  Despite all the negative press about him, he's one of the few actually coming up with good ideas to address issues on Oahu instead of status quo.
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Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2012, 03:57:55 PM »
Good to hear -- I hope Tom Berg stays on.  Despite all the negative press about him, he's one of the few actually coming up with good ideas to address issues on Oahu instead of status quo.
The only reason he is getting negative press is because he is getting frustrated with all the lies and cover-up that he wants to expose and is being shut down at every avenue. He does a lot for his constituents which includes native Hawaiians. I wish his website was better but otherwise it is worth signing up for his e-mail newsletter.
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Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2012, 07:48:53 PM »