I was talking to my nephew in AZ last night. He said people are panic buying ammo and stores are out. I googled it and it is true. Not just in AZ but all over the country. So I decided to order some .22 ammo so I’ll have when I move. Guess what? Big run on some types of .22 ammo. In particular I found CCI Standard Velocity was not easily found. And what I could find was either only a box or two left or price gouging going on. I found one place with 800 rounds in stock so I ordered it right away. While I was in process to order, the price went up from $6.00/100 to $6.25/100. Not a huge jump, but still it went up mid order. The only companies with any large stocks is asking $8.00/100 or more. Or the places that don’t charge a flat fee shipping still had. I also bought some CCI Blazer .22 which is another fav of mine. The companies that I looked at still had some quantities but I saw the price go up over night from $0.037/round ($18.50/brick) to $0.044/round ($22.00/brick). I paid $0.05/round ($25.00/brick) because I could not find a place with more than a couple of 50 round boxes. I finally found a place that would flat ship and had a few thousand boxes in stock. It is nice that I can order ammo and have it shipped to my house. But if we are going to have shortages again, it will hard to find even mail order.

While I don’t see a run yet on powder and primers it may be coming. Just be prepared. Unfortunately, I had to sell all of my powder, primers and ammo because I cannot take with me in my container. So I hope there is still plenty when I get there. In the meantime, make sure you have. This will not last as long as the last drought. It may not even get as bad as the last one. If you don’t have at least 3 months worth of ammo, I would think of stocking up.

Vegas stores are empty of guns and ammo. Spartan arms posted a vid on their fb. They have like 6 revolvers left and 8 rifles (bolt action). Everything else is sold out. Their store look like 2000 sqft.

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Hmm, I wonder if Front Sight has any.  Of course they don't sell .22 rimfire but usually have a huge amount of 9MM and .223.  I am fairly well stocked, except for .22LR which is getting dangerously close to only 13,000 rds.

Inventory was wiped out on the wholesale/distributor side also. We finished ordering the March pallet last Monday (was rushing to finish before the baby came), and over the 2 days we were in the hospital, inventory at just about all the warehouses disappeared and/or had substantial price increases. IDK about some of those price increases... in our experience, the ammo carried by these warehouses or larger online retailers was bought/negotiated way before the rush buying started. That being said, we’re not sure how things are going to look in May for the next pallet if inventory doesn’t restock to bring prices back down. As of now, the days of inventory glut and cheap cheap ammo seem to be gone.

Edit: Was told by one of the warehouses that manufacturers are shipping at higher costs now because of the demand. That’s where the price increase is coming from.

Inventory was wiped out on the wholesale/distributor side also. We finished ordering the March pallet last Monday (was rushing to finish before the baby came), and over the 2 days we were in the hospital, inventory at just about all the warehouses disappeared and/or had substantial price increases. IDK about some of those price increases... in our experience, the ammo carried by these warehouses or larger online retailers was bought/negotiated way before the rush buying started. That being said, we’re not sure how things are going to look in May for the next pallet if inventory doesn’t restock to bring prices back down. As of now, the days of inventory glut and cheap cheap ammo seem to be gone.

Thanks for the info.   Congrats on the baby.

Inventory was wiped out on the wholesale/distributor side also. We finished ordering the March pallet last Monday (was rushing to finish before the baby came), and over the 2 days we were in the hospital, inventory at just about all the warehouses disappeared and/or had substantial price increases. IDK about some of those price increases... in our experience, the ammo carried by these warehouses or larger online retailers was bought/negotiated way before the rush buying started. That being said, we’re not sure how things are going to look in May for the next pallet if inventory doesn’t restock to bring prices back down. As of now, the days of inventory glut and cheap cheap ammo seem to be gone.

congrats.   

I was talking to my nephew in AZ last night. He said people are panic buying ammo and stores are out. I googled it and it is true. Not just in AZ but all over the country. So I decided to order some .22 ammo so I’ll have when I move. Guess what? Big run on some types of .22 ammo. In particular I found CCI Standard Velocity was not easily found. And what I could find was either only a box or two left or price gouging going on. I found one place with 800 rounds in stock so I ordered it right away. While I was in process to order, the price went up from $6.00/100 to $6.25/100. Not a huge jump, but still it went up mid order. The only companies with any large stocks is asking $8.00/100 or more. Or the places that don’t charge a flat fee shipping still had. I also bought some CCI Blazer .22 which is another fav of mine. The companies that I looked at still had some quantities but I saw the price go up over night from $0.037/round ($18.50/brick) to $0.044/round ($22.00/brick). I paid $0.05/round ($25.00/brick) because I could not find a place with more than a couple of 50 round boxes. I finally found a place that would flat ship and had a few thousand boxes in stock. It is nice that I can order ammo and have it shipped to my house. But if we are going to have shortages again, it will hard to find even mail order.

While I don’t see a run yet on powder and primers it may be coming. Just be prepared. Unfortunately, I had to sell all of my powder, primers and ammo because I cannot take with me in my container. So I hope there is still plenty when I get there. In the meantime, make sure you have. This will not last as long as the last drought. It may not even get as bad as the last one. If you don’t have at least 3 months worth of ammo, I would think of stocking up.

"I had to sell all of my powder, primers and ammo because I cannot take with me in my container".
" If you don’t have at least 3 months worth of ammo, I would think of stocking up.
First one, up to you, but "household items"  are pretty much up to you discretion, sea law wise.
Second one, if you know how much ammo you have, you don't have enough.
I never violate the laws but you would not believe what
people ship in containers.
How do you think all our neighbors get all the neat fireworks?
If you own a sailboat what is your limit in cargo?
Smuggling is a very American activity.
Hate to see you go.
Check out old Tuson "Pinacle Petes", wear a tie!
A cheap tie.

" If you don’t have at least 3 months worth of ammo, I would think of stocking up.

How does 1 gauge what 3 months of ammo is?  If there is a shortage, I won't be shooting as much as normal, which is only once a month at HDF shoots/skill builders.

Trying to help a family member on the mainland find some low recoil buck this morning was not easy. I could only locate one place was not price gouging or sold out. They asked how much they should get, and I told them it is unlikely to lose its value over the coming months.

I just went young guns and there was at least 15 people in line buying something and a bunch others waiting to see a firearm
ammo shortage coming soon!   

Vegas stores are empty of guns and ammo. Spartan arms posted a vid on their fb. They have like 6 revolvers left and 8 rifles (bolt action). Everything else is sold out. Their store look like 2000 sqft.

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Video of the empty shop
https://www.facebook.com/SpartanArmsLasVegas/videos/198342521441627/

Video of the empty shop
https://www.facebook.com/SpartanArmsLasVegas/videos/198342521441627/

I posted that in another thread.

I just went young guns and there was at least 15 people in line buying something and a bunch others waiting to see a firearm
ammo shortage coming soon!   

Prices at wholesale level already reported going up.

Buds was the cheapest ammo this morning for CCI SV .22. It was at 4.4 cents a round. Now they are up to 7 cents a round. They don't ship. Everyone cheaper only has a couple of boxes and not worth the $15 to ship. Now prices vary from around 8 cents to 12 cents a round. This was just from this morning.

As soon as I get into town I'm buying powder and primers. I have enough 22 coming for a few months.

"I had to sell all of my powder, primers and ammo because I cannot take with me in my container".
" If you don’t have at least 3 months worth of ammo, I would think of stocking up.
First one, up to you, but "household items"  are pretty much up to you discretion, sea law wise.
Second one, if you know how much ammo you have, you don't have enough.
I never violate the laws but you would not believe what
people ship in containers.
How do you think all our neighbors get all the neat fireworks?
If you own a sailboat what is your limit in cargo?
Smuggling is a very American activity.
Hate to see you go.
Check out old Tuson "Pinacle Petes", wear a tie!
A cheap tie.

No one this forum does anything illegal or immoral. I'll be okay. No runs yet on powder and primers. If it starts I can just order some like I did the ammo. Having a hard address and family on the mainland helps a lot. 

I'm more worried about Hawaiian cancelling my flight. I am resourceful, but I can't make airlines not cancel flights.

Inventory was wiped out on the wholesale/distributor side also. We finished ordering the March pallet last Monday (was rushing to finish before the baby came), and over the 2 days we were in the hospital, inventory at just about all the warehouses disappeared and/or had substantial price increases. IDK about some of those price increases... in our experience, the ammo carried by these warehouses or larger online retailers was bought/negotiated way before the rush buying started. That being said, we’re not sure how things are going to look in May for the next pallet if inventory doesn’t restock to bring prices back down. As of now, the days of inventory glut and cheap cheap ammo seem to be gone.

Edit: Was told by one of the warehouses that manufacturers are shipping at higher costs now because of the demand. That’s where the price increase is coming from.

Thanks Jen!  When the boat lands what is the distribution process?

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Congrats Jen!  Sorry you had to wait in the car so long for your husband.  I gave him the hint twice about you waiting in the car :-)

I now know more about you two than I do about my daughter’s boyfriend :-)

Congrats Jen!  Sorry you had to wait in the car so long for your husband.  I gave him the hint twice about you waiting in the car :-)

I now know more about you two than I do about my daughter’s boyfriend :-)

Hahaha!  No problem!  Too much time in North Dakota for him... not enough other people around to talk to.  Baby is doing well, just trying to figure out the best options to keep him healthy... its been a weird week for everyone.

Thanks Jen!  When the boat lands what is the distribution process?

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I think we're going to let UPS take the vast majority of that pallet when it comes in.  The gun show ammo we took to UPS this afternoon, but we'll have to go back tomorrow to get the parcels accepted.  We got an employee this afternoon who didn't understand UPS's own regulations (rather rude lady... if anyone has the pleasure of dealing with UPS on Lagoon Drive you know exactly which one I'm talking about).  UPS on the mainland, and the UPS hazmat/dangerous goods department, will be in contact with the HNL Service Center tomorrow to straighten them out that the regulations do allow shipping ammunition UPS ground, intra-Oahu, ORMD.  We had shipped some last year and actually last week... was one of those depends who you get at the counter problems.  In a way though it will be a good learning experience for UPS here and will hopefully allow smoother sailing after the local office learns what their actual regulations are.  Sorry about that delay... UPS's policy is actually really clearly written and available online (google: UPS ammunition shipping intra-oahu ormd and the page will come up), but there's always that one employee that makes customers pull tall heir hair out sometimes.   

Shipping is a mess right now from the warehouses.  It looks like 90% of that pallet has shipped and the last bit shouldn't be far behind.  It might delay the pallet a week though... we were just lucky that the first 1/2 of the pallet had already shipped before the panic really set in around Wednesday or so.

Excerpt from:

Crunching The Numbers On The Ammo Sales Spike

https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/03/17/crunching-numbers-ammo-sales-spike/

While many gun stores saw the increase in demand kick in last week, the folks at Ammo.com say they first started seeing a swelling demand back in late February, with a 53% increase in sales on February 23rd. By March 15th, the website says sales had increased by a staggering 276% percent.

    When comparing 22 days worth of sales from February 23, 2020, through March 15, with sales from February 1, 2020, through February 22, our data shows these staggering statistics:

        309% increase in revenue
        78% increase in conversion rate
        222% increase in transactions
        77% increase in site traffic
        27% increase in average order

No one this forum does anything illegal or immoral. I'll be okay. No runs yet on powder and primers. If it starts I can just order some like I did the ammo. Having a hard address and family on the mainland helps a lot. 

I'm more worried about Hawaiian cancelling my flight. I am resourceful, but I can't make airlines not cancel flights.

"I'm more worried about Hawaiian cancelling my flight. I am resourceful, but I can't make airlines not cancel flights."
If it gets that bad, I'd borrow a sailboat. Most those on Oahu don't even get a monthly visit from their owners.
Get to San Deigo, and hire some Mexicans to sail it back.  Owner will probably never miss it.
Just make sure the fuel tank is full when you are done.  Consider it Rent. 
I don't think anybody around here knows how to sail a boat.
I do.  I'm a pirate at heart. /s