Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only (Read 115177 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #280 on: June 30, 2020, 06:51:32 PM »
So hows this working for people with expiring LG permits? Can't get an appointment for 3 months but your permit expires in 3 weeks and want to go buy something. So now based on this, HPD is affecting commerce. How does this work? Much like the Texas case (Mance v Holder), different premise but same outcome, can they be sued for not allowing transactions to occur? The LGS looses sales because HPD not issuing permits for 3+ months?

Great point. 

Current policy is to not allow renewal applications more than 2 weeks before the permit expires.  Start looking for available appointments that fall within 2 weeks before the expiration.

Long Gun Permit expires Oct 31.  Can apply after Oct 16.  If appointments are closed up to 3 months out, start looking around July 15 for appointments within that window.

Nothing stops you from making a purchase the day the permit expires. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Bota-CS1

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #281 on: June 30, 2020, 09:42:49 PM »
He's not going to care.  This helps delay things by a lot. There's a huge firearm demand right now, and the Blues don't want people to have them in the first place. They settle with slowing it down--in this case, dramatically.

I don’t need or want him to care.  I want him to act like any other politician when pressure is applied.  I mean to rock the boat a bit by emailing and calling him.  HiFiCo settled with their lawsuit but Inguarantee you they’ll drag their feet unless we make our voices heard.
No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

Inspector

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #282 on: July 01, 2020, 02:20:10 AM »
maybe S&W.  who knows.  I could be swayed by the dark side...…….  >:D
i did see another performance center revolver at a shop that i liked
Oh no! Say it isn’t so! Don’t let yourself go to the dark side!!!  :rofl:

I have been spending all of my available funds on reloading supplies. I’m afraid to look at what Ruger and S&W are offering right now cuz I’d be afraid to go into debt if I fell in love with something.  :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

mrgaf

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #283 on: July 01, 2020, 06:48:16 AM »
Just tried to get an appointment to renew my long gun permit (acquire 3 guns or less) for December 3 and nothing is available for over a year! I went all the way into October 2023 and nada!  :wtf:
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stangzilla

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #284 on: July 01, 2020, 06:57:53 AM »
Just tried to get an appointment to renew my long gun permit (acquire 3 guns or less) for December 3 and nothing is available for over a year! Matter of fact I went all the way into October 2021 and nada!  :wtf:

from what firearms division told me on the phone, their website is only capable of scheduling out to 3 months and they're all full out to 3 months so nothing past that will even show up on the website
best thing to do is keep checking and see if any cancels.
if this is the case, they need to open registration at other locations, or let the LGS do the registration since its basically verifying that the numbers match, barrel length, etc.
or better yet, no need.  but we all that wont happen anytime soon

mrgaf

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #285 on: July 01, 2020, 07:11:10 AM »
from what firearms division told me on the phone, their website is only capable of scheduling out to 3 months and they're all full out to 3 months so nothing past that will even show up on the website
best thing to do is keep checking and see if any cancels.
if this is the case, they need to open registration at other locations, or let the LGS do the registration since its basically verifying that the numbers match, barrel length, etc.
or better yet, no need.  but we all that wont happen anytime soon

Ok that explains it...like your ideas but as we both know they will do nothing that makes sense except defunding the firearms branch  :D
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #286 on: July 01, 2020, 12:18:19 PM »
Ok that explains it...like your ideas but as we both know they will do nothing that makes sense except defunding the firearms branch  :D

Your next headache will be when a reservation is canceled, you are able to take it, and on that day HPD refuses to process your renewal application because it's sooner than their 2-weeks-before-permit-expiration-date policy for long gun permit renewals.

If you can't get a renewal reservation 2 weeks prior to expiration, your permit is going to lapse days, weeks or months before you can find an appoint.  And THEN you still have to wait 2 weeks before picking it up!!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

frankwilhelm7

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #287 on: July 01, 2020, 02:45:03 PM »
Heads up. I just canceled a permit to acquire on Monday August 3 at 12pm

theJanitor

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #288 on: July 02, 2020, 10:03:29 AM »
has anyone gave their slot to someone else, in person?  My brother can't get a slot, and I have one for Sep2 that I'd like to give him.  Think we can go in together and swap spots?

nahp01

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #289 on: July 02, 2020, 10:44:10 AM »
has anyone gave their slot to someone else, in person?  My brother can't get a slot, and I have one for Sep2 that I'd like to give him.  Think we can go in together and swap spots?

I think the easiest would be to have you cancel the appointment online, and have him next to you to refreshing the site. The few times that I’ve cancelled, the appointment time was immediately available on the site.

Specter01

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #290 on: July 02, 2020, 11:06:25 AM »
I don’t need or want him to care.  I want him to act like any other politician when pressure is applied.  I mean to rock the boat a bit by emailing and calling him.  HiFiCo settled with their lawsuit but Inguarantee you they’ll drag their feet unless we make our voices heard.

Yeah, he'll act through pressure--just not pressure from us. The problem is he'll get catch more crap from his real constituents than us, the 2A people. 

I think you already know this.
USMC 2000 - 2020

theJanitor

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #291 on: July 02, 2020, 01:04:24 PM »
I think the easiest would be to have you cancel the appointment online, and have him next to you to refreshing the site. The few times that I’ve cancelled, the appointment time was immediately available on the site.

I just didn't want to lose it to someone else, who's on the website, and getting my spot before my brother

Heavies

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #292 on: July 02, 2020, 07:31:19 PM »
Yeah, he'll act through pressure--just not pressure from us. The problem is he'll get catch more crap from his real constituents than us, the 2A people. 

I think you already know this.



It might work.  The range scrapped their online reservation system.  I emailed every council member, Caldwell, and Ige (even though he is state not city) ever day for a month.

stangzilla

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #293 on: July 07, 2020, 08:10:25 AM »
doing my periodic check for cancellations to see if I can move my appt date up from late august
I saw an opening October 5th.  that's 88 days from now, just under the 90 day limit.  then I clicked back a page just to check it, nothing there so I click back to the October date, and now its gone.  wow, you gotta be fast bc that wasn't even 3 seconds and it was gone.
good thing my appt is sooner than that so I didn't need it
we are appointment vultures.   >:D

Linohawaii

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #294 on: July 07, 2020, 08:35:17 AM »
doing my periodic check for cancellations to see if I can move my appt date up from late august
I saw an opening October 5th.  that's 88 days from now, just under the 90 day limit.  then I clicked back a page just to check it, nothing there so I click back to the October date, and now its gone.  wow, you gotta be fast bc that wasn't even 3 seconds and it was gone.
good thing my appt is sooner than that so I didn't need it
we are appointment vultures.   >:D

Trying to do the same thing with no luck, I have a mid September appointment to acquire a pistol permit and 15 days later registration appointment. Let me see If I got this right, there is an average as I recall (correct me if i'm wrong) about 15-20 appointments per day. Now you have a category for  3 guns or less, 4 guns or more and Joint (married couples). If HPD will only publish an appointment schedule for up to three months, therefore there are 60 working days from now until the end of September (approx.) So 15 appointments multiplied by 60 working days equals 900 appointments already made then multiply that in the three categories you can get appointment for and that equals a whopping 2,700 appointments already made until the end of September (approx.). That is a lot of guns sold in the past few months.

Waiver; Not based on factual numbers.

raudi

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #295 on: July 07, 2020, 08:41:31 AM »
Just clicked ahead almost a year. no appointments available.

Bota-CS1

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #296 on: July 07, 2020, 09:52:45 AM »
Just clicked ahead almost a year. no appointments available.

I think they only release a few months at a time.

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No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

the_fenian

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #297 on: July 07, 2020, 11:44:25 AM »
Looking to see if anyone has booked a Registration appointment on or a few days past the 22nd of July.  I was able to snag a permit to acquire appt for today, but am worried I'm gonna get the shaft.  has anyone had any luck showing up at the office and waiting on standby for someone to not show up for their appointments

groveler

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #298 on: July 07, 2020, 12:00:49 PM »
Have you guys just thought of flying to Idaho going to one of many gunshows,
and buying your gun(s)?
Because of the un-constitutional Quarantine
You can't possibly conform to the law when you get back.
but so what?
You have your gun(s).
Start to think outside the box.
Have a lawyer on speed dial.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Honolulu PD permit/reg. by appointment only
« Reply #299 on: July 07, 2020, 01:15:43 PM »
Have you guys just thought of flying to Idaho going to one of many gunshows,
and buying your gun(s)?
Because of the un-constitutional Quarantine
You can't possibly conform to the law when you get back.
but so what?
You have your gun(s).
Start to think outside the box.
Have a lawyer on speed dial.

According to at least one HPD officer, you can't use your firearm until you register it.

Husband at 2:30am: "Someone's breaking in!  Call 911!  I'll get the gun!"

Wife:  "I called 911.  The Cops are on the way!"

Husband:  "Stop!  Don't come in, or I'll shoot!"

Cop:  "Sorry we got here after you had to kill that armed intruder.  I just checked with dispatch, and this handgun isn't registered.  We'll have to book you for that if nothing else."

Husband:  "But ... but ... I have an appointment!"
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw