Captain Crozier: Hero or Traitor (Read 14952 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Captain Crozier: Hero or Traitor
« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2020, 12:59:30 PM »
Heard/read the recommendation that he be reinstated.  Something is up on that though.  Haven't heard anything about being cleared of wrongdoing or neglecting the chain of command.  Not saying that it didn't happen, but seems to be speculation at this point.

A decision is expected today.  As of the publication of this article, there were several possible outcomes.

Until that decision, there is no "vindication."  A recommendation is not a formal decision, nor is it a "conclusion."


https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2020/04/19/reinstate-reassign-navy-to-decide-fate-of-fired-aircraft-carrier-captain/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Captain Crozier: Hero or Traitor
« Reply #61 on: April 24, 2020, 02:30:06 PM »
A decision is expected today.  As of the publication of this article, there were several possible outcomes.

Until that decision, there is no "vindication."  A recommendation is not a formal decision, nor is it a "conclusion."


https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2020/04/19/reinstate-reassign-navy-to-decide-fate-of-fired-aircraft-carrier-captain/
Concur.  My point was someone was interjecting their speculation and passing off as fact.  Similar to MO of the MSM.

Kuleana

Re: Captain Crozier: Hero or Traitor
« Reply #62 on: April 24, 2020, 02:42:39 PM »
Concur.  My point was someone was interjecting their speculation and passing off as fact.  Similar to MO of the MSM.

Your biased opinion.

Kuleana

Re: Captain Crozier: Hero or Traitor
« Reply #63 on: April 24, 2020, 02:49:32 PM »
Similar to MO of the MSM.

That coming from someone who bases their pro-views of America's military actions all over the planet, as justified by the same MSM?

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: 

drck1000

Re: Captain Crozier: Hero or Traitor
« Reply #64 on: April 24, 2020, 02:55:24 PM »
Your biased opinion.
Opinion?  Has information on clearing of wrongdoing or neglecting the chain of command been released?  If not, it was being interjected as speculation. 

End
of
story. . .

Kuleana

Re: Captain Crozier: Hero or Traitor
« Reply #65 on: April 24, 2020, 03:20:18 PM »
Opinion?  Has information on clearing of wrongdoing or neglecting the chain of command been released?  If not, it was being interjected as speculation. 

I already agreed that the article I cited did not reveal any information, as to the specifics to how the US NAVY came to the conclusion to recommend the reinstatement of Captain Crozier.  However, the US Navy investigated something and apparently found Captain Crozier not guilty of anything.

It seems you are either letting your emotions against me or maybe your disappointment on what decision the US Navy reached today to split hairs.

drck1000

Re: Captain Crozier: Hero or Traitor
« Reply #66 on: April 24, 2020, 04:18:45 PM »
I already agreed that the article I cited did not reveal any information, as to the specifics to how the US NAVY came to the conclusion to recommend the reinstatement of Captain Crozier.  However, the US Navy investigated something and 1) apparently found Captain Crozier not guilty of anything.

2) It seems you are either letting your emotions against me or maybe your disappointment on what decision the US Navy reached today to split hairs.
1) Apparently, but still your speculation.

2) Just calling as I see it.  Differences between opinion and fact, rational conclusions and emotional reaction, etc. 

Personally, I don't fault the CAPT for his actions.  I truly to believe he had the best interests of those under his Command at heart.  However, go back to my post about the responsibilities of Command.  That you didn't or couldn't comprehend the difference is why you think this is splitting hairs. 

Anyways, continue your Crusade against the Empire.  Rage against the machine.  Da. . .

Heavies

Re: Captain Crozier: Hero or Traitor
« Reply #67 on: April 24, 2020, 04:37:07 PM »
If it wasn't him that let it out, they need to find out who did, and their  head rolls.   Nothing changed in my view.   Simple security and logic