Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations (Read 63263 times)

CyberNinja808

Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« on: June 02, 2020, 04:51:40 PM »
Department of parks and recreation is now using an online system to reserve time at the Kokohead shooting complex.
We are glad to have the range back open BUT.....

Here are our observations.

The system requires you to create an account to select a time. and date to shoot.

To book a slot you will need to provide medical information and emergency contact information.

Due to the time restrictions and social distancing requirements, it will (for the time being) be impossible to teach classes at the range.

You will not be able to book more than a one-time slot per day.

New rules in place: observed from video on the city website.

1)No parking on the grass - this limits the parking availability to approximately 16 vehicles.
2)Facemasks must be worn at all times, including shooting - this can pose a safety risk, mask hinders sightlines, and can become an entanglement risk.
3)Setup time is 15 minutes and shooting time is 1 hour, (we assume there is also a breakdown time). This means that each slot is reserved for 1 hour and 30 minutes.
4)The system appears to require you to include your address and phone number (shown on the receipt)

While we understand the system is new, they are calling it a PILOT system, which could mean that they intend to keep it in place a long term (forever). Just like the Police department's booking system, this will do nothing but hinder the ability of leag gun owners to acquire arms and train to use them in a safe manner.

The city post regarding the system can be found here : https://www.facebook.com/honolulu.parks/videos/569862310581495/

ren

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2020, 04:58:40 PM »
isn't medical information confidential ?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2020, 05:08:02 PM »
isn't medical information confidential ?

There's no legitimate reason to ask for any medical information.  If there's an emergency, they aren't  going to call your doctor or HMO.  They will call 911.  911 will dispatch an ambulance, and you'll be taken to the closest emergency room no matter who your provider is.

I call BS on the medical info.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

stangzilla

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2020, 05:13:15 PM »
no parking on the grass?
that's where everybody parks
WTF!!!!!!!!    :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

stangzilla

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2020, 05:17:33 PM »
you know what?
F them!!!  i'm parking on the grass

Bota-CS1

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2020, 05:28:27 PM »
Department of parks and recreation is now using an online system to reserve time at the Kokohead shooting complex.
We are glad to have the range back open BUT.....

Here are our observations.

The system requires you to create an account to select a time. and date to shoot.

To book a slot you will need to provide medical information and emergency contact information.

Due to the time restrictions and social distancing requirements, it will (for the time being) be impossible to teach classes at the range.

You will not be able to book more than a one-time slot per day.

New rules in place: observed from video on the city website.

1)No parking on the grass - this limits the parking availability to approximately 16 vehicles.
2)Facemasks must be worn at all times, including shooting - this can pose a safety risk, mask hinders sightlines, and can become an entanglement risk.
3)Setup time is 15 minutes and shooting time is 1 hour, (we assume there is also a breakdown time). This means that each slot is reserved for 1 hour and 30 minutes.
4)The system appears to require you to include your address and phone number (shown on the receipt)

While we understand the system is new, they are calling it a PILOT system, which could mean that they intend to keep it in place a long term (forever). Just like the Police department's booking system, this will do nothing but hinder the ability of leag gun owners to acquire arms and train to use them in a safe manner.

The city post regarding the system can be found here : https://www.facebook.com/honolulu.parks/videos/569862310581495/

Completely unacceptable, because like the HPD system, you can't get an appointment until August.  Forwarded to FPC.
No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

powder monkey

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2020, 05:29:24 PM »
It is emergency contact number
and contact person.

Bota-CS1

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2020, 05:30:59 PM »
It is emergency contact number
and contact person.

I don't see lifeguards asking people at Ala Moana or Magic Island asking park goers for their emergency contact info. (Ok maybe the hot girls, but that's different)
No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

powder monkey

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2020, 05:34:17 PM »
Well it is what it is dont think you will be able to complete form

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2020, 05:37:52 PM »
It is emergency contact number
and contact person.

Emergency Contact #:  911.
Emergency Contact Person:  911 Operator.

If they can't handle my emergency, I don't know what anyone else will do for me.

I have a feeling this is a ploy to have someone take possession of any firearms and range gear if you're incapacitated.  That creates all kinds of legal issues in and of itself.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

stangzilla

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2020, 05:38:25 PM »
looks like 1 person per bench too
what if you teaching someone to shoot for the 1st time?  I guess no can
how you supposed to help someone zero their optic if they don't know how? I guess no can
letting 1st timers go by themselves. this could be dangerous

stangzilla

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2020, 05:38:53 PM »
person to call in case of emergency:  "Yo mama!"

stangzilla

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2020, 05:40:06 PM »
they should make all park users of any park anywhere do the same

powder monkey

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2020, 05:43:21 PM »
You do the same for golf

stangzilla

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2020, 05:46:33 PM »
I don't play golf
golf is not a sport
its a bunch of guys hiding from their wives, its an excuse to not do house chores and drinking beer

stangzilla

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2020, 05:49:04 PM »
every user of ala moana park, Kapiolani park, ehukai beach park, Waimea bay park, they should all have to register just like us
they are all city parks
that's discrimination
maybe we should protest and loot too. 

powder monkey

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2020, 05:50:31 PM »
Mask can be removed while shooting.

powder monkey

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2020, 05:51:26 PM »
every user of ala moana park, Kapiolani park, ehukai beach park, Waimea bay park, they should all have to register just like us
they are all city parks
that's discrimination
maybe we should protest and loot too.

Hope you enjoy

drck1000

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2020, 05:52:39 PM »
I got $5 that the site crashes. . .

powder monkey

Re: Koko Head new procedures for making online reservations
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2020, 06:31:33 PM »
Emergency Contact #:  911.
Emergency Contact Person:  911 Operator.

If they can't handle my emergency, I don't know what anyone else will do for me.

I have a feeling this is a ploy to have someone take possession of any firearms and range gear if you're incapacitated.  That creates all kinds of legal issues in and of itself.

Firearms turned into HPD.