Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel (Read 4424 times)

oldfart

Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« on: July 06, 2020, 08:19:21 AM »
Statement from T-mobile while I was trying to pay my cell phone bill today.....

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So, we are making significant changes.  We will bring more diverse talent and better representation of minorities into leadership roles through new programs and processes that improve how we hire, how we recognize and reward people, and how we mentor or develop our talent to grow their careers.  We are taking steps, such as our decision this week to ensure every job we fill and every promotion we make should include a diverse slate of candidates for the opportunity—and our high potential management and executive talent programs will include significantly increased participation by people of color.  Intentional steps like these are an important start, and they are just the beginning.  We will also work to ensure better inclusion across our business, and deliver on plans to continue this conversation with our teams and educate them to ensure we have an inclusive workplace.
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wonderful
So my cell phone company is going to hire or promote "people of color", which, I presume means black folk.
What ever became of merit-based promotion? What about other non-Caucasian folk such as myself?
I guess the old adage is right,. "The squeaky wheel gets the grease"
What, Me Worry?

groveler

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2020, 09:54:15 AM »
Statement from T-mobile while I was trying to pay my cell phone bill today.....

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So, we are making significant changes.  We will bring more diverse talent and better representation of minorities into leadership roles through new programs and processes that improve how we hire, how we recognize and reward people, and how we mentor or develop our talent to grow their careers.  We are taking steps, such as our decision this week to ensure every job we fill and every promotion we make should include a diverse slate of candidates for the opportunity—and our high potential management and executive talent programs will include significantly increased participation by people of color.  Intentional steps like these are an important start, and they are just the beginning.  We will also work to ensure better inclusion across our business, and deliver on plans to continue this conversation with our teams and educate them to ensure we have an inclusive workplace.
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wonderful
So my cell phone company is going to hire or promote "people of color", which, I presume means black folk.
What ever became of merit-based promotion? What about other non-Caucasian folk such as myself?
I guess the old adage is right,. "The squeaky wheel gets the grease"
In this case I suggest the "grease" is KY jelly.
Personally every time I see a black person in a position of
power I assume they are idiots.

ren

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2020, 10:09:40 AM »
Jussie Smollet for TMobile CEO? or Head of new products and development? Perhaps then we could see TMobile Pagers...
Deeds Not Words

QUIETShooter

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2020, 10:10:19 AM »
Yep, less qualified people will be offered leadership roles based on diversity, not ability.

No matter how hard you work, or how qualified you are, if you are not the right "color" to complete the rainbow, you are out of luck.

Because you see, these corporations worry more about how they are perceived, than appreciate the value of their most important asset: their rank and file.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

ren

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2020, 10:15:08 AM »
In this case I suggest the "grease" is KY jelly.
Personally every time I see a black person in a position of
power I assume they are idiots.

you waycist
Deeds Not Words

mrgaf

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2020, 11:52:19 AM »
Yep, less qualified people will be offered leadership roles based on diversity, not ability.

No matter how hard you work, or how qualified you are, if you are not the right "color" to complete the rainbow, you are out of luck.

Because you see, these corporations worry more about how they are perceived, than appreciate the value of their most important asset: their rank and file.

Black and white ain’t colors....no sure how it goes but if memory serves me correctly white is a combination of all colors, black is lack thereof.....
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

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Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2020, 12:14:01 PM »
The soft bigotry of low expectations.

Affirmative Action did more harm than good.  Unofficial quotas were put in place even though the gov't swore no such quotas existed.

As Grovler intimated, there is a perception that, when Affirmative Action is the policy, an employee of color is less qualified than other employees/applicants, and was promoted/hired to fill that quota/non-quota.

Perception trumps reality.  I would never want to be viewed by my peers as an Affirmative Action hire as opposed to someone who competed and achieved that position the same as all the others.

When one person or group is granted an advantage, someone else must be disadvantaged as a result.  Labor is a zero sum game.  Not everyone gets a chair at the nice table.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2020, 02:20:37 PM »
Equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome. If the ratio of people in positions of authority is way out of proportion and does not reflect the population, then we need to figure out where that glass ceiling is and make the necessary adjustments so that qualified candidates can rise to the top naturally. Simply shoving someone in a position of power for which they do not have the necessary skill set is counterproductive and encourages more racism.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2020, 04:32:02 PM »
Equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome. If the ratio of people in positions of authority is way out of proportion and does not reflect the population, then we need to figure out where that glass ceiling is and make the necessary adjustments so that qualified candidates can rise to the top naturally. Simply shoving someone in a position of power for which they do not have the necessary skill set is counterproductive and encourages more racism.

Watching "A Knight's Tale" (starring the late-great Heath Ledger), I'm always interested in the Thatcher's desire to give his son opportunities that he could never provide -- even though it meant having to let his boy live with his uncle and not be close enough to see each other.

People living in low-opportunity circumstances are rarely willing to give their child up for adoption to families that offer a better learning environment.  Sometimes it feels like this is what's needed. 

Maybe not such a drastic separation, but maybe dorms that can house students away from poor, crime-riddled neighborhoods in favor of safe, nurturing environments.

We have student exchange programs that let students live with parents of students in other locations -- even internationally.  We have money to pay for projects in bad areas, but none for accommodations in better areas for parents with school kids.

Sometimes it's the parents who are the problem.  Sometimes they are just a victim of circumstances or generational poverty.  Sometimes it's the schools who spend 90% of their time dealing with the troublemakers and not teaching those who want to learn.

Make a list of all the factors that affect income and education.  I bet one of the factors rising to the top of the list will be single parent homes.  Most studies prove that children raised in 2-parent homes do better in school.  Yet, our public welfare system insists on "incentivizing" single parent homes with more financial support than 2-parent homes. 

If you want less of something, you tax it.

If you want more of something, you subsidize it.

No big mystery, really.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2020, 05:03:05 PM »
you waycist
you waycist
I was an engineer at Keck observatory for almost ten years.
I was on interview teams that caused me to catch my breath,
" how the hell did I get hired?"
Race never mattered.
There was a lady that had the same degree
as I have and she was a secretary.
My favorite scientist was as black as you can get.
He was was from India.
What really mattered was the Team and the mission.
And the Ohana.
Democrats don't understand diversity.
They only understand forcing people to submit.

robtmc

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2020, 07:49:29 PM »
They only understand forcing people to submit.

Bears repeating, a very deep truth.

Inspector

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2020, 02:33:21 AM »
This sort of reminds me of the Peter Principle:

The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to their "level of incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another. The concept was elucidated in the book The Peter Principle (William Morrow and Company, 1969) by Dr Peter and Raymond Hull.

Instead of promoting and rising to their level of incompetence, they promote by color and it doesn’t matter that they are incompetent. Assuming they are in fact incompetent. I imagine there may some some outlier examples where a person of color is promoted and they do a great job.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

wirecounter

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2020, 08:31:07 AM »
This sort of reminds me of the Peter Principle:

The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to their "level of incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another. The concept was elucidated in the book The Peter Principle (William Morrow and Company, 1969) by Dr Peter and Raymond Hull.

Instead of promoting and rising to their level of incompetence, they promote by color and it doesn’t matter that they are incompetent. Assuming they are in fact incompetent. I imagine there may some some outlier examples where a person of color is promoted and they do a great job.

Reminds me of the air traffic controller diversity hiring program . . .

oldfart

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2020, 09:02:43 AM »
Reminds me of the air traffic controller diversity hiring program . . .
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Was that for real?
That could make for some funny but politically incorrect jokes. :rofl:
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wirecounter

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2020, 02:39:53 PM »
....
Was that for real?
That could make for some funny but politically incorrect jokes. :rofl:

Was not reported in the MSM, but . . . https://mslegal.org/2019/02/fight-escalates-over-race-based-hiring-program-at-the-faa/ among other news organizations including FOX.  The lawsuit in the article from the hyperlink is real.

oldfart

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2020, 08:11:48 AM »
Was not reported in the MSM, but . . . https://mslegal.org/2019/02/fight-escalates-over-race-based-hiring-program-at-the-faa/ among other news organizations including FOX.  The lawsuit in the article from the hyperlink is real.
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wow

not so funny if you ride on airplanes :rofl:
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QUIETShooter

Re: Tmobile greases the squeaky wheel
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2020, 03:55:31 PM »
Was not reported in the MSM, but . . . https://mslegal.org/2019/02/fight-escalates-over-race-based-hiring-program-at-the-faa/ among other news organizations including FOX.  The lawsuit in the article from the hyperlink is real.

I swear our leaders of our nation are making more and more stupid decisions in an effort to ensure racial diversity in highly desirable jobs.

Our leaders should be focusing on providing programs for those minorities that are being bypassed for better jobs by ensuring they have economic and educational opportunities so that with hard work and perseverance these minority individuals can rise up beyond the bias and qualify for these jobs.

A lot of times it's not the barriers in place that prohibit these minorities to gain better jobs.

IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST FUCKIN LAZY AND WANT EVERYTHING HANDED TO THEM.  THEY ARE VICTIMS AND THEREFORE MUST BE COMPENSATED BECAUSE......they are poor things....sniff sniff sob sob.  They just don't want to work for it.

In this nation, more than anywhere else, the opportunities are there.  But not for the lazy.  And certainly not for the self entitled.

As it should be.  Except our leaders are stupid.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.