Republicans against Trump (Read 9813 times)

eyeeatingfish

Republicans against Trump
« on: July 23, 2020, 10:46:11 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC03-Q9vq-JyiStTnqasADVg

Is Trump's supporters decreasing?
Discuss.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2020, 12:03:43 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC03-Q9vq-JyiStTnqasADVg

Is Trump's supporters decreasing?
Discuss.

"Are", not "is".

Sheesh!   :geekdanc:

You lived through the 2016 election, and you really have to ask that question?

Trump was not elected by "Republicans".  He was elected by people from all parties as well as independent voters. 

Trump won for the most part because he was favored by neither the Democrat Party nor the Republican Party.  For all intents and purposes, Trump was a real Independent candidate.  He only ran on the Republican ticket because he wanted to be sure Hildabeast lost. 

Party affiliation is meaningless today, except for the lemmings who can't take the time to decide which candidates deserve their votes.  They just look for (D) and (R).

#DrainTheSwamp

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

armsinc

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2020, 07:04:59 AM »
What shook some of his support currently (in my opinion) is the lack up in till recently not suppressing yhe riots. And while I understand is that this is a local issue not a federal issue. Most people don't understand that. Also two of Trumps largest successes the economy and have been impacted by the coronavirus. The more Trump controls these three things the better he will do in the next election.
ArmsInc Hawaii

ren

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2020, 07:47:02 AM »
There's the alternative.
"Hi I'm an Joe Biden and I'm soliciting for you're vote to defeat Ronald Reagan. Vote for me President 2020."
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oldfart

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2020, 08:34:59 AM »
How did they get Ronald Reagan to make that video?
Somebody must have connections in a really high place. :rofl:

But seriously R.A.T. seems more like an anti-trump joke than a real thing.
 
What, Me Worry?

groveler

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2020, 08:52:09 AM »
I don't particularly like Republicans, but I despise Democrats.
I will vote for Trump not because I like him,  I just despise
the Democrats more.
If you want to classify me, I'm Libertarian in every way except
I demand and am willing to pay for the best, biggest, "Baddest"
military the world ever has or will see.
Other than that,  I despise government, especially the Hawaiian
Democrat run one.
Aloha.



changemyoil66

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2020, 09:37:06 AM »
Jo wants to disband the ATF, so there's that candidate.  Just sayin

jomama

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2020, 12:03:57 PM »
I don't particularly like Republicans, but I despise Democrats.
I will vote for Trump not because I like him,  I just despise
the Democrats more.
If you want to classify me, I'm Libertarian in every way except
I demand and am willing to pay for the best, biggest, "Baddest"
military the world ever has or will see.
Other than that,  I despise government, especially the Hawaiian
Democrat run one.
Aloha.

75,000 federal agents coming to cities near you doesn’t sound libertarian to me.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2020, 12:15:57 PM »
75,000 federal agents coming to cities near you doesn’t sound libertarian to me.

There are federal agents already in every single state: DHS, FBI, ATF, US Marshals, Intelligence, etc.

This is Hawaii.  Where are these "cities near you?"  Kinda vague.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

jomama

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2020, 06:19:25 PM »
There are federal agents already in every single state: DHS, FBI, ATF, US Marshals, Intelligence, etc.

This is Hawaii.  Where are these "cities near you?"  Kinda vague.

You know exactly what I’m talking about and it’s the furthest thing from libertarianism. History will show that Trump will be as much a disaster for the Republican Party as he has been for this nation.  We’ve lost the House and next we’ll lose the Senate.  The Obama days will seem like a golden age.

 :shaka:

mrgaf

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2020, 06:42:36 PM »
You know exactly what I’m talking about and it’s the furthest thing from libertarianism. History will show that Trump will be as much a disaster for the Republican Party as he has been for this nation.  We’ve lost the House and next we’ll lose the Senate.  The Obama days will seem like a golden age.

 :shaka:

Oh schit, not another troll!
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

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Heavies

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2020, 06:51:59 PM »
Trump is not a republican, and not status quo.

Are you surprised in any way status quo republicans don't want to play ball with him? ::)

Heavies

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2020, 06:53:34 PM »
I don't particularly like Republicans, but I despise Democrats.
I will vote for Trump not because I like him,  I just despise
the Democrats more.
If you want to classify me, I'm Libertarian in every way except
I demand and am willing to pay for the best, biggest, "Baddest"
military the world ever has or will see.
Other than that,  I despise government, especially the Hawaiian
Democrat run one.
Aloha.





We must be, some how, related....

eyeeatingfish

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2020, 08:06:58 PM »
"Are", not "is".

Gosh... I just caught that then looked down and saw this reply.

Quote
You lived through the 2016 election, and you really have to ask that question?
Trump was not elected by "Republicans".  He was elected by people from all parties as well as independent voters. 
Trump won for the most part because he was favored by neither the Democrat Party nor the Republican Party.  For all intents and purposes, Trump was a real Independent candidate.  He only ran on the Republican ticket because he wanted to be sure Hildabeast lost. 

Doesn't mean he will win a second time. I realize the people talking in the videos on this youtube channel are anecdotes and not statistical data but I think they might represent a fair number of former Trump voters.
I tend to agree with the sentiment that Trump only won because Clinton did so bad. She alienated democrats, she wasn't very likable, has issues of corruption, etc.

poke

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2020, 08:52:23 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC03-Q9vq-JyiStTnqasADVg

Is Trump's supporters decreasing?
Discuss.

His first term has been disappointing to say the least, but the Republicans saying they'll abstain from voting/vote against him are childish and acting out of emotion.

jomama

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2020, 09:16:28 PM »
Oh schit, not another troll!

So because I have a different opinion that makes me a troll?  There are lots of conservatives who think Trump is a disaster. He’s a big city scammer who has screwed people over his entire life. It’s amazing he cowed people as long as he did, but he’s done now.  Are you ok with him sending federal agents to grab people off the streets without cause and without regard for the Constitution?  I don’t support the rioters but I won’t support him either. Not to mention his handling of the pandemic has been pathetic.  He stuck his head in the sand in January and still hasn’t taken it out. This nation is better than that.

tim808

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2020, 09:34:46 PM »
I vote republican.  I don’t consider Trump a republican. 

hvybarrels

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2020, 09:49:24 PM »
Are you ok with him sending federal agents to grab people off the streets without cause and without regard for the Constitution?

The funny thing about Federal property is that it is perfectly fine and legal for the e-branch to send in Federal agents to prevent angry mobs from destroying it. If Trump let it burn they would blame him for dereliction of duty because TDS sufferers are not constrained by logic or integrity. Our deep state showed its hand with the Russiagate hoax and Epstein. If those guys hate Trump, I say we need more Trump.
The F in Communism stands for Food

eyeeatingfish

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2020, 09:50:02 PM »
You know exactly what I’m talking about and it’s the furthest thing from libertarianism. History will show that Trump will be as much a disaster for the Republican Party as he has been for this nation.  We’ve lost the House and next we’ll lose the Senate.  The Obama days will seem like a golden age.

 :shaka:

I would consider it a reasonably good outcome if republicans lose the presidency but manage to take congress.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Republicans against Trump
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2020, 09:51:10 PM »
His first term has been disappointing to say the least, but the Republicans saying they'll abstain from voting/vote against him are childish and acting out of emotion.

Agreed, abstaining is foolish. At the very least vote libertarian, or whatever other party you could stand for. Not voting at all is just dumb.