Sure you want to be a cop? (Read 39394 times)

groveler

Sure you want to be a cop?
« on: August 24, 2020, 07:45:17 AM »
Check this out

https://twitter.com/nolimitchrizi/status/1297684746370252806

My understanding is that the guy also stated that he had a gun like they did.
Presumably he went for it.

You need to select "view"  till it gets taken down.



oldfart

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2020, 07:56:53 AM »
Play stupid games

Non-compliance
What, Me Worry?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2020, 01:07:03 PM »
Cops:  Get on the ground now!

Suspect:  What you gonna do?  Shoot me?

Cops (to dispatch):  We need an ambulance ....
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2020, 08:30:34 AM »
Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2020, 02:47:57 PM »
Not following orders will get you shot, but then again I have seen too many police completely ignore their deescalation training. This cop also let the situation completely get out of control (useless shirt grabbing), but without context of body cam it is difficult to make a snap judgement.
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2020, 07:49:34 PM »


Blake is no saint, but shooting an unarmed man, who is retreating, in his back 7 times.

Are these the good cops?

macsak

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2020, 09:09:15 PM »


Blake is no saint, but shooting an unarmed man, who is retreating, in his back 7 times.

Are these the good cops?

going to a vehicle and reaching under the seat is not retreating...

ren

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2020, 09:20:05 PM »
going to a vehicle and reaching under the seat is not retreating...

unless Antman
Deeds Not Words

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2020, 09:57:39 PM »
going to a vehicle and reaching under the seat is not retreating...

So you don't have a problem with a cop grabbing the suspect, from behind, and unloading 7rds point blank, into Blake's back.

Sounds like a pretty gruesome execution to me.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2020, 10:13:20 PM »
So you don't have a problem with a cop grabbing the suspect, from behind, and unloading 7rds point blank, into Blake's back.

Sounds like a pretty gruesome execution to me.

Your imagination is running amok again..... and just in time for another 2 week lock down!

It's going to be a long 2 weeks.   :crazy:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2020, 10:13:46 PM »
So you don't have a problem with a cop grabbing the suspect, from behind, and unloading 7rds point blank, into Blake's back.

Sounds like a pretty gruesome execution to me.

The fact his back was to the officers doesn't make him not a threat though. Think about it for a second, the cop was 1-2 feet behind the man. If the man grabbed a gun he wouldn't have to turn to shoot at the cop. He could stick it under his arm and fire behind him reliably hitting the cop center mass.

BTW he wasn't executed, he lived.

Now 7 times does seem like a lot of shots but there might be good explanations for that many rounds. The cop may have fired a warning shot or he may have tried to hit a limb and when that didn't work he went center mass. Who knows though, he could just be a terrible shot under pressure.

macsak

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2020, 10:43:35 PM »
So you don't have a problem with a cop grabbing the suspect, from behind, and unloading 7rds point blank, into Blake's back.


show me where I said that

hvybarrels

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2020, 11:43:43 PM »
Now 7 times does seem like a lot of shots but there might be good explanations for that many rounds. The cop may have fired a warning shot or he may have tried to hit a limb and when that didn't work he went center mass. Who knows though, he could just be a terrible shot under pressure.

Or he kept missing center mass because he is the kind of cop who does not understand the value of training and as a result regularly puts himself, his partners, and the community at risk.
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2020, 11:52:07 PM »
People can continue to fight and be a threat even with 7 rounds in them if nothing vital is hit.

Shoot until the threat is stopped.

Is there an arbitrary number of rounds that a Cop must cease firing after, similar to arbitrary mag capacity limits for Hawaii residents?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2020, 01:20:51 AM »
Flapp pointed out on the other thread he did have a knife in the passenger floorboard, which makes it a justified shooting and a possible suicide by cop.

Maybe I am being too harsh but it does not inspire confidence that the video shows at least 3 officers involved in a physical confrontation and the guy still manages to make it all the way around to the other side of his car and open the door with kids inside.

It could be the police hesitation was due to the sensitive political environment, and that hesitation ironically created an out of control situation which sparked the sort of riots they were trying to prevent.

Definitely not a good time to be a cop, and my deepest gratitude to all the LEOs doing their best to hold it together.
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

oldfart

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2020, 01:40:21 AM »

Blake is no saint, but shooting an unarmed man, who is retreating, in his back 7 times.

Are these the good cops?
....
I can't even believe you said that
What, Me Worry?

QUIETShooter

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2020, 07:11:22 AM »
Flapp pointed out on the other thread he did have a knife in the passenger floorboard, which makes it a justified shooting and a possible suicide by cop.

Maybe I am being too harsh but it does not inspire confidence that the video shows at least 3 officers involved in a physical confrontation and the guy still manages to make it all the way around to the other side of his car and open the door with kids inside.

It could be the police hesitation was due to the sensitive political environment, and that hesitation ironically created an out of control situation which sparked the sort of riots they were trying to prevent.

Definitely not a good time to be a cop, and my deepest gratitude to all the LEOs doing their best to hold it together.

I watched the video and it was very disturbing.  I think you are correct that the political environment, that particular situation with children in close proximity, and people standing by watching their every move caused hesitation.

I can only speak for myself, but if I found myself in that situation and the cops tell me to stand down, I WILL STAND DOWN.  I am a parent who loves my children and will do anything to keep them safe.  I wonder if that guy was even thinking of how traumatic it looked with his kids watching their dad (actually the word father should be used.  Dad is reserved for those who earned it) scuffle with police with their firearms drawn.  Not to mention the danger.  That cop's adrenaline was off the charts and his weapon was drawn.

But of course we live in an "Its all about me" society now.

I personally am concerned with all of these news events happening.  All the troublemakers disrupting the peaceful protests, violence and property damage, armed citizens taking the law into their hands because of these troublemakers, etc.,etc.

The battle lines are being drawn every day.  Like a snowball rolling amok down a snow filled mountain.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2020, 08:17:04 AM »
....
I can't even believe you said that

Because I don't believe suspects being shot in the back, as imminent threats.

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2020, 08:18:57 AM »
People can continue to fight and be a threat even with 7 rounds in them if nothing vital is hit.

Shoot until the threat is stopped.

How is a suspect moving away, from the cops, to get back, into his car, a threat to the cops?

ren

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2020, 08:19:32 AM »
How is a suspect moving away, from the cops, to get back, into his car, a threat to the cops?

what was he reaching for? Pick from below:
-gun
-knife
Deeds Not Words