Sure you want to be a cop? (Read 39373 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #160 on: September 02, 2020, 02:35:33 PM »
FJ's View of Handling Non-Compliance of Suspects:

Officer: I need to see your identification.

Suspect: I don't have any on me.

Officer: Non-compliance?  Eat lead!

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Officer: You are under arrest.  Get on the ground now!

Suspect: Tell me what I am being charged for first.

Officer: Resisting arrest?  You're cottage cheese!

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Officer: We are taking you to jail.

Suspect: Stop roughing me up!

Officer: Disobeying a cop?  Here's 7rds, in your back, for your trouble!

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These examples were over-exaggerating, of course.

However, do you really want to see cops have this kind of decision-making cycle?

This is what happens when you have no FACTS to offer.

Hyperbolic diarrhea.   :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #161 on: September 02, 2020, 02:45:51 PM »
So, in your book, if tazering does not work, shoot center mass and call the coroner, for non-compliance?   :wtf:

If that going to be the cops SOP, for any suspect that does not comply, just come out and say it.

America is a fascist state and forget about due process, of the law; Judge Dredd rules here: Comply or Die!    :shake:

You said:

Yes, they definitely should have elected some form, of non-deadly force, to detain Blake.

I responded with FACTS.  The MSN source (not right wing) stated that WITNESSES reported the Cops WRESTLED with the suspect and tried to Taser him.  It also reported that the video which YOU hang your entire argument on was not started until AFTER the Cops had Blake on the ground, tried to Taser him, but then increased their distance when they discovered he had a knife.

Instead of admitting you were ignorant of the facts, vis-a-vis your statement the Cops should have elected some form of "non-deadly force," you attacked me by concocting a strawman of things I never said.

Can't have an honest, adult discussion with you.  You think everyone who isn't like you in your biases is always wrong.

Go pound sand.  I'm through trying to educate and enlighten you.  Maybe you can try Googling information that gives both sides of a story for yourself.  Ignorance can be cured.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #162 on: September 02, 2020, 02:51:03 PM »
:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

 :rofl: :rofl:
I'm still the new guy here so I find it entertaining...…. :popcorn:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #163 on: September 02, 2020, 02:55:13 PM »
Look up police tactics. 

Cops do not use non-lethal or less-than-lethal force on a perp who is holding a potentially lethal weapon (knife, gun, metal pipe, ...) UNLESS the Cop has backup.  The backup Cops have their LETHAL firearms at the ready in case the non-lethal/less-than-lethal weapons fail which potentially puts that officer in harms way.

Simple and logical.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #164 on: September 02, 2020, 02:57:48 PM »
:rofl: :rofl:
I'm still the new guy here so I find it entertaining...…. :popcorn:

After years of the same racist, anti-military, anti-Law-Enforcement BS, it does get old.

Except for the ICBM silos hidden on Oahu.  That one NEVER gets old!   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #165 on: September 02, 2020, 04:38:29 PM »
That TMZ video referenced/linked in Flapp’s link sure makes it look like they, the cops, were wrestling with him best they could in a chaotic situation with people crowded close around.

Wrestled with him, attempting tasing, knife.....this is way more gray than it seems.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/24/jacob-blake-shooting-new-angle-struggle-cops-kenosha/

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #166 on: September 02, 2020, 05:22:57 PM »
That TMZ video referenced/linked in Flapp’s link sure makes it look like they, the cops, were wrestling with him best they could in a chaotic situation with people crowded close around.

Wrestled with him, attempting tasing, knife.....this is way more gray than it seems.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/24/jacob-blake-shooting-new-angle-struggle-cops-kenosha/

Careful!

Mind you don't contradict the MSM/DNC/BLM narrative.

I find it comical that "some people" love to rush to judgement based on partial evidence, then become unhinged when the facts dispute their conclusions.  "It's much easier to lie to the people than to convince them they've been lied to." 

This is why Twitter is dangerous.  "Trending" has replaced "confirmed evidence."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #167 on: September 03, 2020, 08:23:10 AM »
:rofl: :rofl:
I'm still the new guy here so I find it entertaining...…. :popcorn:

You've got to love the forum's permatroll; a guy who constantly tries to present himself, as the most knowledgeable person, in this forum, that resorts to personal attacks, when he usually can't win, and thinks everyone is stupid, for not noticing, when he arrogantly does so.

He is the person, who will look for any lame inconsequential technicality, to prove his one-sided position; a staunch defender of cops, in all cases of police brutality and civilian-related shootings; a hero of the shoot-first and look-for-excuses mentality; and a fanatic supporter of the endless illegal wars that are bankrupting America.

He hates anyone's exercising, of their 1st Amendment rights, when it goes against his own delusional narrative; attacks anyone, who points out America's slide into fascism; and looks down, on the views of locals, and in particular, Native Hawaiians.

Other than himself, shamelessly thinking he is superior, than anyone else, in this forum, and probably be the guy to rat anyone, to the cops, that violates any of Hawaii's anti-gun laws; he occasionally can be a so-so guy.   :shaka:

robtmc

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #168 on: September 03, 2020, 09:32:54 AM »
You've got to love the forum's permatroll;
Talk about hilarious irony, this post has it.

ren

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #169 on: September 03, 2020, 10:02:59 AM »
it's always 1898
Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #170 on: September 03, 2020, 10:14:58 AM »
Where do bad threads go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
They go to the lake of fire and fry
Won't see them again 'till 1898
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #171 on: September 03, 2020, 01:17:25 PM »
Talk about hilarious irony, this post has it.
That's right.

You say nothing, when the aforementioned makes personal attacks, against this Hawaiian, but you attack this Hawaiian, when he fights back, against the aforementioned.

Just making sure everyone see your double-standard.   :shaka:

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #172 on: September 03, 2020, 01:19:55 PM »
it's always 1898
Sure lucky for you, the Chinese Exclusion Act ended, during WWII, and they closed the Japanese internment camps, huh?

ren

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #173 on: September 03, 2020, 01:38:40 PM »
Sure lucky for you, the Chinese Exclusion Act ended, during WWII, and they closed the Japanese internment camps, huh?

That's right.

You say nothing, when the aforementioned makes personal attacks, against this Hawaiian, but you attack this Hawaiian, when he fights back, against the aforementioned.

Just making sure everyone see your double-standard.   :shaka:

That's the center of gravity for most of your arguments and attacks - race.
What does the Chinese Exclusion Act have to do with this post of being a police officer and why did you direct that towards me?
Deeds Not Words

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #174 on: September 03, 2020, 01:43:26 PM »
What does the Chinese Exclusion Act have to do with this post of being a police officer and why did you direct that towards me?
What's does your quote below have anything to with being a police officer?


it's always 1898
You can post things like this that you know is directed at me and I can't respond back?  Give me a break...


Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #175 on: September 03, 2020, 01:47:05 PM »
You've got to love the forum's permatroll; a guy who constantly tries to present himself, as the most knowledgeable person, in this forum, that resorts to personal attacks, when he usually can't win, and thinks everyone is stupid, for not noticing, when he arrogantly does so.

He is the person, who will look for any lame inconsequential technicality, to prove his one-sided position; a staunch defender of cops, in all cases of police brutality and civilian-related shootings; a hero of the shoot-first and look-for-excuses mentality; and a fanatic supporter of the endless illegal wars that are bankrupting America.

He hates anyone's exercising, of their 1st Amendment rights, when it goes against his own delusional narrative; attacks anyone, who points out America's slide into fascism; and looks down, on the views of locals, and in particular, Native Hawaiians.

Other than himself, shamelessly thinking he is superior, than anyone else, in this forum, and probably be the guy to rat anyone, to the cops, that violates any of Hawaii's anti-gun laws; he occasionally can be a so-so guy.   :shaka:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #176 on: September 03, 2020, 01:51:42 PM »
What's does your quote below have anything to with being a police officer?

You can post things like this that you know is directed at me and I can't respond back?  Give me a break...

in 1898 the City of Brooklyn became part of New York City and NYPD absorbed 18 police departments. A lot happened in 1898 as far as law enforcement matters go.
Blue Lives Matter too.
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #177 on: September 03, 2020, 01:59:11 PM »
in 1898 the City of Brooklyn became part of New York City and NYPD absorbed 18 police departments. A lot happened in 1898 as far as law enforcement matters go.
Blue Lives Matter too.

November 10 – The Wilmington Insurrection of 1898: A coup d'état by white supremacists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_insurrection_of_1898

Quote
The Wilmington insurrection of 1898, also known as the Wilmington massacre of 1898 or the Wilmington coup of 1898,[6]
occurred in Wilmington, North Carolina, on Thursday, November 10, 1898.[7] It is considered a turning point in post-Reconstruction
North Carolina politics. The event initiated an era of more severe racial segregation and effective disenfranchisement of
African Americans throughout the South, a shift already underway since passage by Mississippi of a new constitution in 1890,
raising barriers to voter registration. Laura Edwards wrote in Democracy Betrayed (2000): "What happened in Wilmington became
an affirmation of white supremacy not just in that one city, but in the South and in the nation as a whole", as it affirmed that invoking
"whiteness" eclipsed the legal citizenship, individual rights, and equal protection under the law that blacks were guaranteed under
the Fourteenth Amendment.[8][9][10]

The white press in Wilmington originally described the event as a race riot caused by blacks. However, over time, with more facts
publicized, the event has come to be seen as a coup d'état, the violent overthrow of a duly elected government, by a group of white
supremacists. Multiple causes brought it about.[1][11][12][13][14][15][16] It is claimed to be the only such incident in American
history,[17][18] (other late Reconstruction Era violence did not result in a direct 'coup' or removal and replacement of elected officials
by unelected individuals).

The coup occurred after the state's white Southern Democrats conspired and led a mob of 2,000 white men to overthrow the
legitimately elected local Fusionist government. They expelled opposition black and white political leaders from the city, destroyed
the property and businesses of black citizens built up since the Civil War, including the only black newspaper in the city, and killed
an estimated 60 to more than 300 people.[2][3][4][5]
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #178 on: September 03, 2020, 02:02:05 PM »
That's right.

You say nothing, when the aforementioned makes personal attacks, against this Hawaiian, but you attack this Hawaiian, when he fights back, against the aforementioned.

Just making sure everyone see your double-standard.   :shaka:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #179 on: September 03, 2020, 02:02:35 PM »
in 1898 the City of Brooklyn became part of New York City and NYPD absorbed 18 police departments. A lot happened in 1898 as far as law enforcement matters go.
Blue Lives Matter too.
Impressive, if you learned of those things, yourself.   :thumbsup:

I can't help, but wonder though, if the permatroll assisted you, with some of his google-fu.