I remember reading that an alternative form of power was going to be needed for when the rail goes into full use. But I have not seen or hear anything about that since that came out. The article stated that a small generating station would be needed. And that this was never taken into account during thee original planning but everyone was warned by HECO that they couldn’t supply the entire amount of power needed. I can’t find the article now. Not sure if it was true or someone’s opinion.

The huge opportunity cost. With $7 B and counting, Honolulu could have actually reduced traffic congestion by more than 25%
and reduced its dependency on oil by over 40%. Honolulu burns oil to produce electric power and as a result its electricity cost i
s 300% above US average. Instead of switching power generation and fleet fueling to natural gas, island policies emphasize
oil-generated electric cars and electric trains!

Finally, looking at the bigger picture for Honolulu which includes a $5 B consent decree with the EPA for secondary sewer treatment,
increasing dependency on imports, including 90% of food, with prices escalated by the Jones Act requirements, and the nation’s fifth
worst unfunded pension liability according to The Economist [8], the future is worrisome: At best Honolulu will experience large increases
in taxes and congestion, at worst those plus bankruptcy.  One thing is certain.  This textbook megaproject failure orchestrated by
business interests and unions, supported by misguided environmentalism and enabled by enterprising politicians got Honolulu railroaded [9].

Guys like you set me off.
"they don't all need cars."
who the fvcvk are YOU to decide
what your fellow citizens "need"
I can tell you what your needs are and they are simple,
"the rule of Threes".
That is all you NEED!
Everything else is glazing on the Donuts.

Guys like you set me off.
"they don't all need cars."
who the fvcvk are YOU to decide
what your fellow citizens "need"
I can tell you what your needs are and they are simple,
"the rule of Threes".
That is all you NEED!
Everything else is glazing on the Donuts.

People can take the rail and not purchase a car.  Or people can actually just have less cars if they can use public transport.

Lol,  what you are trying to do is centralize people.  If you  put 500 people in one building near the rail they don't all need cars.  They can travel less if a supermarket opens up nearby.  Overall less travel and more convenience. Instead of spreading everyone apart.

Are you sure you're talking about "people like me?"  I think you might have quoted the wrong post .... I hope.   

I think (now he got ME doing it, too!) you wanted THIS post:  https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=38341.msg341549#msg341549

One way to pay for the rail is to increase vehicle registration fees enormously. It may make taking public trans more attractive and it would discourage private vehicle ownership.

OOPS!
I'm going to get the VA to fix my Cataracts.
My apologies to all.

I think you meant this poster

One way to pay for the rail is to increase vehicle registration fees enormously. It may make taking public trans more attractive and it would discourage private vehicle ownership.

What's your address so I can give it to the process server?

Glad you have a lawyer already!       

Oahu vehicle registration is already very high.  I have an Acura MDX on Oahu and it cost me $475 to register.  I have a Dodge Ram 2500 quad cab 4x4 longbed and an Infiniti FX50 on the BI and it cost me $480 to register both.

Its not high enough to have you look at other trans options. If the local govt was smart about this they would do that. Make private vehicle ownership subsidize the rail and/or other public trans options. If they really wanted to take vehicles off the road and decrease congestion.

Its not high enough to have you look at other trans options. If the local govt was smart about this they would do that. Make private vehicle ownership subsidize the rail and/or other public trans options. If they really wanted to take vehicles off the road and decrease congestion.

ren for Governor 2222.

Its not high enough to have you look at other trans options. If the local govt was smart about this they would do that. Make private vehicle ownership subsidize the rail and/or other public trans options. If they really wanted to take vehicles off the road and decrease congestion.

I can be found just past the singing bridge, in the pavilion at the waterfront park.
or check at the Starbucks just up the road, they have free WiFi and "facilities".

I'll pay much more attention in the future, Thank you.

Lets compare the HI rail to Taipei's MRT (rail).

In taipei, i can catch the mrt and get off and pretty much have only a 10 minute walk to get where i need to go. HIs rail wont be like that. U would still have to bus it because the walk will be longer than 10 mins.

MRT is like a spider web. Not just a single line like HI. And b4 anyone says HI has limited space, taipei is more crowded than HI. Like many buildings are inches apart from each other, almost touching.

When I heard Honolulu was getting rail it was very exciting, but then I saw the plan. All over the world they know how to do rail right, but the version we have is for the benefit of corrupt contractors and developers who want continuous pavement from Hawaii Kai to Kapolei

When I heard Honolulu was getting rail it was very exciting, but then I saw the plan. All over the world they know how to do rail right, but the version we have is for the benefit of corrupt contractors and developers who want continuous pavement from Hawaii Kai to Kapolei

Yup. That is what I was getting at for our enlightened one. There are certain characteristics of the rails that “got it right”. Hawaii’s layout doesn’t have any of that. Actually, that’s fine. Make Hawaii’s rail fit for our situation. But no, they wanted to force fit layouts that worked elsewhere to here. We don’t have the linear layout of I-5 like Seattle, or already existing dozens of park and rides.