By June it was obvious that this was nothing more than a bad flu season, yet we are still forced to wear masks and deal with lockdowns. Democratic leaders who are forcing their citizens to comply do not even believe in masks and lockdowns for themselves. Ige even took the opportunity to form secret commissions and scoff at sunshine laws. Next thing I suppose will be forcing everyone to take untested vaccines and submit to more government surveillance. This is the very definition of a power grab.

The WHO has published a piece saying lockdowns are NOT THE RIGHT MOVE given the facts they now have.

Once again, Trump was right for encouraging lifting lockdowns once the worst was over. 

Yet, people are drinking the anti-Trump "200,000 people would be walking around today if not for him" Koolaid being served up by the DNC, Biden and the MSM.

try asking that question about lockdowns and citing the WHO to our illustrious Mayor Coldwell.

The WHO has published a piece saying lockdowns are NOT THE RIGHT MOVE given the facts they now have.

Once again, Trump was right for encouraging lifting lockdowns once the worst was over. 

Yet, people are drinking the anti-Trump "200,000 people would be walking around today if not for him" Koolaid being served up by the DNC, Biden and the MSM.

Where is this piece of info?  What???  Makes no sense.  Lockdowns worked for most of the world.  Or atleast Asia.  China the fucking source of this had lockdowns and wiped out covid within their borders...

Where is this piece of info?  What???  Makes no sense.  Lockdowns worked for most of the world.  Or atleast Asia.  China the fucking source of this had lockdowns and wiped out covid within their borders...

Like why don't you do some fucking "research" with your Google.

Where is this piece of info?  What???  Makes no sense.  Lockdowns worked for most of the world.  Or atleast Asia.  China the fucking source of this had lockdowns and wiped out covid within their borders...

Your Google-Fu is weak, oh IT SME.   

WHO warns against COVID-19 lockdowns due to economic damage

https://nypost.com/2020/10/11/who-warns-against-covid-19-lockdowns-due-to-economic-damage/


Follow the Science: Health Professionals Say Lockdowns Were a Massive Mistake

https://spectator.org/great-barrington-declaration-lockdowns-mistake/

Where is this piece of info?  What???  Makes no sense. Lockdowns worked for most of the world.  Or atleast Asia.  China the fucking source of this had lockdowns and wiped out covid within their borders...

really?
please supply evidence...

Where is this piece of info?  What???  Makes no sense.  Lockdowns worked for most of the world.  Or atleast Asia.  China the fucking source of this had lockdowns and wiped out covid within their borders...

if you believe the CCP controlled news...

really?
please supply evidence...

really?
please supply evidence...

you are correct its hard to tell with CCP news.  But they have opened up and appear to be moving freely. 

One GOOD example is New Zealand and now Australia which have basically wiped out covid with strict rules on lockdown and masks.

you are correct its hard to tell with CCP news.  But they have opened up and appear to be moving freely. 

One GOOD example is New Zealand and now Australia which have basically wiped out covid with strict rules on lockdown and masks.

new zealand and australia are not most of the world

new zealand and australia are not most of the world

He picked two places that are surrounded by ocean and share no borders with other nations.

Maybe if the Swamp had funded the wall, we could have had a chance ....

new zealand and australia are not most of the world

Taiwan, Singapore, Mongolia, Laos, South Africa, Thailand, Vietnam, China, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Canada (you know the country right next to us).  And that's just off the top of my head. 

Taiwan, Singapore, Mongolia, Laos, South Africa, Thailand, Vietnam, China, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Canada (you know the country right next to us).  And that's just off the top of my head.

china is the only country listed that has a large population
MOST has to be at least half...

china is the only country listed that has a large population
MOST has to be at least half...

Wonder how he would feel about his freedoms in those "most of the world" countries. . .

Wonder how he would feel about his freedoms in those "most of the world" countries. . .

shut up you republican group thinker!

china is the only country listed that has a large population
MOST has to be at least half...

Most inferred to the ones who did lockdowns. 

One GOOD example is New Zealand and now Australia which have basically wiped out covid with strict rules on lockdown and masks.

You should look into what restrictions each country put in place to control the virus.  On various news outlets, see below:

1) New Zealand-Mandatory quarantine in a facility if you're positive.  Includes children without their parents

2) Australia-No one can travel past 5 mile radius of their home without proper papers.  Only 1 household member can go grocery shopping.  Only 1 household member allowed to leave to exercise and must be within 1 mile of their home.  Implemented Hawaiis firearm to and from type law as well.

This is from what I remember, anyone can correct if I'm wrong or provide more details.

Below is what Taiwan did per my in laws there

Locked down in Jan
Only Taiwanese passports are allowed back in, followed by a  14 day mandatory quarantine at their home or a HUGE fine. Like $30,000 USD.  A milk tea cost about $1USD.
No foreign passports allowed in until recently. Now it's for work reasons only.  They get a few new cases a day and it's from Philipine, Malaysian workers. Need government approval to come in. Vacation or visit family is rejected
No Taiwanese citizen can leave the country, only foreign passports were allowed to leave
Government provided surgical type mask for the citizens (24 million population)
Taiwan never shut down businesses or schools.  Their economy does not rely on tourist, like how HI's one does
At 1 point, they went 30+ (I think it was more like 60 days) days with no new cases


So countries that "wiped out" COVID that you mentioned, do not have the bill of rights.  So if you're OK with that then what they did is a good plan.  Taiwan is not mentioned much because they are not recognized by the WHO.  They're not even on the WHO website.  No politics there right?

Taiwan, Singapore, Mongolia, Laos, South Africa, Thailand, Vietnam, China, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Canada (you know the country right next to us).  And that's just off the top of my head.

Most of these countries restricted a lot of freedoms.  IDK what S. Africa, S. Korea, or Canada did.

I do not trust what the China is reporting.  They have very little deaths and infections.  I remember when this all first began, their hospitals were over run, people were tied up in human chains to be taken to who knows where.  People forcefully pulled/dragged from their homes.  They brought in more crematories and the output of emissions was off the chart per tree hugger satellite reports.

You should look into what restrictions each country put in place to control the virus.  On various news outlets, see below:

1) New Zealand-Mandatory quarantine in a facility if you're positive.  Includes children without their parents

2) Australia-No one can travel past 5 mile radius of their home without proper papers.  Only 1 household member can go grocery shopping.  Only 1 household member allowed to leave to exercise and must be within 1 mile of their home.  Implemented Hawaiis firearm to and from type law as well.

This is from what I remember, anyone can correct if I'm wrong or provide more details.

Below is what Taiwan did per my in laws there

Locked down in Jan
Only Taiwanese passports are allowed back in, followed by a  14 day mandatory quarantine at their home or a HUGE fine. Like $30,000 USD.  A milk tea cost about $1USD.
No foreign passports allowed in until recently. Now it's for work reasons only.  They get a few new cases a day and it's from Philipine, Malaysian workers. Need government approval to come in. Vacation or visit family is rejected
No Taiwanese citizen can leave the country, only foreign passports were allowed to leave
Government provided surgical type mask for the citizens (24 million population)
Taiwan never shut down businesses or schools.  Their economy does not rely on tourist, like how HI's one does
At 1 point, they went 30+ (I think it was more like 60 days) days with no new cases


So countries that "wiped out" COVID that you mentioned, do not have the bill of rights.  So if you're OK with that then what they did is a good plan.  Taiwan is not mentioned much because they are not recognized by the WHO.  They're not even on the WHO website.  No politics there right?

I view it as a wartime effort.  Temporary martial law.  You lose freedoms temporary for the betterment of the nation.  If we were being invaded, or at war like in ww2 there are plenty of similar things that happen.  All those countries are thriving now.   If hindsight is 20/20 I would gladly give up my freedoms to travel etc so we can get back to "normal" quicker.  Right now we live in an extended half assed lockdown.  Important fact though is there are no lasting "power grab" effects. No changes in laws that affect freedom like what the republicans did with the patriot act.  I would argue that 911 and what happened then was a far worse endangerment of freedom than covid lockdowns.

Most of these countries restricted a lot of freedoms.  IDK what S. Africa, S. Korea, or Canada did.

I do not trust what the China is reporting.  They have very little deaths and infections.  I remember when this all first began, their hospitals were over run, people were tied up in human chains to be taken to who knows where.  People forcefully pulled/dragged from their homes.  They brought in more crematories and the output of emissions was off the chart per tree hugger satellite reports.

Yeah I also view china with extreme caution though over the last few months and what they appear to be doing,  and all the pictures do indeed point to the evidence that they are basically covid free.

I view it as a wartime effort.  Temporary martial law.  You lose freedoms temporary for the betterment of the nation.  All those countries are thriving now.   If hindsight is 20/20 I would gladly give up my freedoms to travel etc so we can get back to "normal" quicker.  Right now we live in an extended half assed lockdown.

Would you surrender all firearms and ammo and parts if ordered to do so by marital law/betterment for society?  Even though HI does have a law that says confiscation cannot be done during a state emergency.

Those countries are not "thriving". They just have lower Corona numbers.  Being forced to stay home, show papers when traveling X distance, no activities is not my definition of thriving.