Poll

What is your stance on abortion?

Under no circumstances allowed
29.6%
Under rape/incest
25.9%
Under Medical or Genetic issues.
7.4%
Personal choice
33.3%
Forced
3.7%
Total Members Voted
27

Abortion (Read 227237 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #340 on: October 18, 2020, 11:08:05 PM »
A majority of abortions happen in the very beginning stages. And 91%+ happen before your new cut off.  It's like you belive everyone waits till the last second.   

Most that happen that late is for medical reasons for the mother or the child. We all act based on the best scientific info even the article you posted isn't 100% fact.

Since you're using 2016 stats from the CDC, I'll augment that.

623,471 abortions were reported to the CDC in 2016.

Of that, 1.2% were performed at or above the 21 week point.

Gee.  Only 1.2%?  That's such a small number, right?  No, that's not a number.  It's a fraction.

The number of abortions performed after what some now say was past sentience was 623,471 * 1.2% = 7,482 (rounded).

That's almost 7,500 counts of murder in just one year. 

By comparison, Chicago saw its highest number of murders in 19 years in 2016:  762.  That's almost 1/10th the number of abortions at or above the 21 week point.

** Rule of thumb:  When someone tries to make a point using percentages, fractions or ratios, it is beneficial to take time and look up the raw numbers for yourself.  That often paints a much different picture -- which is usually what the presenter intended.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #341 on: October 18, 2020, 11:16:13 PM »


Good interview from Joe Rogan. No room for centrists.
Less government but Republicans want to tell people what they can do or who they can marry.

Ross Perot for President!
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Inspector

Re: Abortion
« Reply #342 on: October 19, 2020, 03:12:52 AM »
Upload on Amazon is a good show.

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I second that!! COVID TV watching.
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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #343 on: October 19, 2020, 06:01:28 AM »
Since you're using 2016 stats from the CDC, I'll augment that.

623,471 abortions were reported to the CDC in 2016.

Of that, 1.2% were performed at or above the 21 week point.

Gee.  Only 1.2%?  That's such a small number, right?  No, that's not a number.  It's a fraction.

The number of abortions performed after what some now say was past sentience was 623,471 * 1.2% = 7,482 (rounded).

That's almost 7,500 counts of murder in just one year. 

By comparison, Chicago saw its highest number of murders in 19 years in 2016:  762.  That's almost 1/10th the number of abortions at or above the 21 week point.

** Rule of thumb:  When someone tries to make a point using percentages, fractions or ratios, it is beneficial to take time and look up the raw numbers for yourself.  That often paints a much different picture -- which is usually what the presenter intended.

And covid killed like 210k people everyone can post scary numbers....

And I just want to add that we don't know how many of those were not viable because of physical or genetic issues or risk to the mothers health. This is me just posturing but I would say that's probably a good chunk of that. 
« Last Edit: October 19, 2020, 06:28:54 AM by omnigun »

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #344 on: October 19, 2020, 07:30:02 AM »
And covid killed like 210k people everyone can post scary numbers....

And I just want to add that we don't know how many of those were not viable because of physical or genetic issues or risk to the mothers health. This is me just posturing but I would say that's probably a good chunk of that.


as if
« Last Edit: October 19, 2020, 07:37:22 AM by ren »
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Inspector

Re: Abortion
« Reply #345 on: October 19, 2020, 08:02:58 AM »
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #346 on: October 19, 2020, 08:20:37 AM »
“Like” 🤦‍♂️


as if

Deaths
220K

Just googled it.  I said like because I was lazy to google and was estimating off of the last 200k deaths number. I guess its worse.   Amazing how you folks don't like the word "like".  Its pretty universally used now.

Inspector

Re: Abortion
« Reply #347 on: October 19, 2020, 08:28:21 AM »
Deaths
220K

Just googled it.  I said like because I was lazy to google and was estimating off of the last 200k deaths number. I guess its worse.   Amazing how you folks don't like the word "like".  Its pretty universally used now.
You just don’t get it. 🤦‍♂️

I doubt you ever will.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #348 on: October 19, 2020, 08:29:22 AM »
Deaths
220K

Just googled it.  I said like because I was lazy to google and was estimating off of the last 200k deaths number. I guess its worse.   Amazing how you folks don't like the word "like".  Its pretty universally used now.

Like "cloud" its everywhere. Literally. Honestly.
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drck1000

Re: Abortion
« Reply #349 on: October 19, 2020, 08:31:10 AM »
You just don’t get it. 🤦‍♂️

I doubt you ever will.
Yup. He lives in his little bubble. Takes everything as a challenge. He’s the heartwarming underdog story.

Inspector

Re: Abortion
« Reply #350 on: October 19, 2020, 09:03:16 AM »
Yup. He lives in his little bubble. Takes everything as a challenge. He’s the heartwarming underdog story.
Yeah, he is also extremely sensitive to older people being right. Boomers are his enemy. He seems to want to fight the fact that truth in life experience contradicts his very small and limited reality. Hence his response of everyone else says it so that makes it right. Just because stupid childish little twits with little to no life experience says it doesn’t change the fact that it is incorrect use of the English language. But I’m a piece of shit Boomer so that makes me wrong automatically.

It used to be that people took pride in speaking and using the English language properly. It shows that the person is intelligent and educated. The inverse is also true. But now they are “Like” too lazy to use proper English.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Abortion
« Reply #351 on: October 19, 2020, 09:06:41 AM »
Yeah, he is also extremely sensitive to older people being right. Boomers are his enemy. He seems to want to fight the fact that truth in life experience contradicts his very small and limited reality. Hence his response of everyone else says it so that makes it right. Just because stupid childish little twits with little to no life experience says it doesn’t change the fact that it is incorrect use of the English language. But I’m a piece of shit Boomer so that makes me wrong automatically.

It used to be that people took pride in speaking and using the English language properly. It shows that the person is intelligent and educated. The inverse is also true. But now they are “Like” too lazy to use proper English.
Or hooked on phonics.   :rofl:

macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #352 on: October 19, 2020, 09:07:15 AM »
Yup. He lives in his little bubble. Takes everything as a challenge. He’s the heartwarming underdog story.

"a cinderella story out of nowhere..."

drck1000

Re: Abortion
« Reply #353 on: October 19, 2020, 09:10:44 AM »
"a cinderella story out of nowhere..."
"gunga galunga"

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #354 on: October 19, 2020, 09:11:04 AM »
Yeah, he is also extremely sensitive to older people being right. Boomers are his enemy. He seems to want to fight the fact that truth in life experience contradicts his very small and limited reality. Hence his response of everyone else says it so that makes it right. Just because stupid childish little twits with little to no life experience says it doesn’t change the fact that it is incorrect use of the English language. But I’m a piece of shit Boomer so that makes me wrong automatically.

It used to be that people took pride in speaking and using the English language properly. It shows that the person is intelligent and educated. The inverse is also true. But now they are “Like” too lazy to use proper English.

Don't think I have ever said boomers are my enemy. I have plenty older friends.  I get along with great.  I have nothing against you or anyone because of age.  Experience is important I get that,  but it isn't everything.  Talking down on younger people cause you are older I can't get behind.   English evolves over time.  My generation and the one after me, like to shorten stuff.  Rely on spell check etc.  Its not necessary a bad thing. Not saying my English is best there's a reason I am not a English teacher or writer. 

drck1000

Re: Abortion
« Reply #355 on: October 19, 2020, 09:12:18 AM »
Don't think I have ever said boomers are my enemy. I have plenty older friends.  I get along with great.  I have nothing against you or anyone because of age.  Experience is important I get that,  but it isn't everything.  Talking down on younger people cause you are older I can't get behind.   English evolves over time.  My generation and the one after me, like to shorten stuff.  Rely on spell check etc.  Its not necessary a bad thing. Not saying my English is best there's a reason I am not a English teacher or writer.
Yet, you have no problems talking down on pretty much everyone. . .

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #356 on: October 19, 2020, 09:23:13 AM »
Yet, you have no problems talking down on pretty much everyone. . .

Its not really because of age though like you are accusing.  I apologize, if I offended anyone.  I don't try and "look down" on people.  I might disagree and think you are wrong but not sure how to convey that so you or others don't feel looked down upon.

Inspector

Re: Abortion
« Reply #357 on: October 19, 2020, 09:24:39 AM »
Don't think I have ever said boomers are my enemy. I have plenty older friends.  I get along with great.  I have nothing against you or anyone because of age.  Experience is important I get that,  but it isn't everything.  Talking down on younger people cause you are older I can't get behind.   English evolves over time.  My generation and the one after me, like to shorten stuff.  Rely on spell check etc.  Its not necessary a bad thing. Not saying my English is best there's a reason I am not a English teacher or writer.
You mean like the day you talked down to me accusing me of talking down to you because I am older. And when I confronted you that I never said anything like that and you apologized for doing it? Or did you conveniently forget that?

Why do you think I said all that. Reality sometimes has to do with past experience. My past experience with you is that you lie and are a hypocrite. I offer up your false accusations and apology as proof.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #358 on: October 19, 2020, 09:24:59 AM »
Yet, you have no problems talking down on pretty much everyone. . .

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ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #359 on: October 19, 2020, 09:26:04 AM »
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