Poll

What is your stance on abortion?

Under no circumstances allowed
29.6%
Under rape/incest
25.9%
Under Medical or Genetic issues.
7.4%
Personal choice
33.3%
Forced
3.7%
Total Members Voted
27

Abortion (Read 227322 times)

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #540 on: January 10, 2021, 05:27:36 PM »

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #542 on: January 10, 2021, 06:55:47 PM »
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Deeds Not Words

aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #543 on: January 10, 2021, 07:52:12 PM »
This topic  is a rabbit hole.

Inspector

Re: Abortion
« Reply #544 on: January 11, 2021, 07:14:19 AM »
This topic  is a rabbit hole.
And TROLLING
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #545 on: February 16, 2021, 01:54:53 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ll6012/someone_had_to_say_it/

Perfect response to the religious who don't approve of abortion.  100% agree this is what true freedom is.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #546 on: February 16, 2021, 02:47:14 PM »
If you use "I'm not religious" as a copout for rejecting any code of morality, that's not freedom.  That's Sociopathy.

You still to this day haven't been able to define when sentience begins.  So, your endorsement is for an adult's "freedom of choice" even though they are murdering another human being.

You really are twisted.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #547 on: February 16, 2021, 05:04:30 PM »
If you use "I'm not religious" as a copout for rejecting any code of morality, that's not freedom.  That's Sociopathy.

You still to this day haven't been able to define when sentience begins.  So, your endorsement is for an adult's "freedom of choice" even though they are murdering another human being.

You really are twisted.

You haven't been able to prove that they are sentient.  Same ole wheel.  Just like you can't prove or disprove God.  So until a method comes up.  Keep to yourself and your beliefs is all I and millions others ask.

macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #548 on: February 16, 2021, 05:24:42 PM »
You haven't been able to prove that they are sentient.  Same ole wheel.  Just like you can't prove or disprove God.  So until a method comes up. Keep to yourself and your beliefs is all I and millions others ask.

yet it's ok for you to spout off your belives over and over again...
hello pot?

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #549 on: February 16, 2021, 05:43:18 PM »
yet it's ok for you to spout off your belives over and over again...
hello pot?

You can believe the earth is flat for all I care.  Just don't force others to believe the same thing.  Both sides can still preach all they want to convince others that's the 1st amendment. Just like I believe in vaccines but I don't support forcing anyone to get one.   

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #550 on: February 16, 2021, 05:44:09 PM »
You haven't been able to prove that they are sentient.  Same ole wheel.  Just like you can't prove or disprove God.  So until a method comes up.  Keep to yourself and your beliefs is all I and millions others ask.

You don't have to believe in God to understand that killing a human being is murder.  And if you can't disprove a fetus is sentient, then you can't say you are not committing murder.

"I didn't know" isn't a very good defense against killing unborn babies.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #551 on: February 16, 2021, 05:45:22 PM »
You don't have to believe in God to understand that killing a human being is murder.  And if you can't disprove a fetus is sentient, then you can't say you are not committing murder.

"I didn't know" isn't a very good defense against killing unborn babies.

I don't view it as a "human".  Its not murder to me and millions of others.  The burden of evidence is on you.  To ban something you must first PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that its wrong.

robtmc

Re: Abortion
« Reply #552 on: February 16, 2021, 05:48:00 PM »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #553 on: February 16, 2021, 05:50:00 PM »
I don't view it as a "human".  Its not murder to me and millions of others.  The burden of evidence is on you.  To ban something you must first PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that its wrong.

Science differs with your viewpoint.

You -- of all people -- should never be the litmus test for what's legal, moral or ethical.

I'm not the one committing murder.  The burden is on you for pushing a false narrative that sentience is unknowable and should therefore be ignored -- even though that's the primary factor YOU SAID needs to be considered.

You created a catch-22, then decided the default answer should be abortion.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #554 on: February 16, 2021, 06:02:33 PM »
someone lacked attention during adolescent development
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #555 on: February 16, 2021, 06:05:59 PM »
someone lacked attention during adolescent development

And refuses to play catch-up. 

Maybe professional therapy?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #556 on: February 16, 2021, 06:32:04 PM »
You can believe the earth is flat for all I care.  Just don't force others to believe the same thing.  Both sides can still preach all they want to convince others that's the 1st amendment. Just like I believe in vaccines but I don't support forcing anyone to get one.

that's not what you said before...

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #557 on: February 16, 2021, 06:46:00 PM »
You haven't been able to prove that they are sentient.  Same ole wheel.  Just like you can't prove or disprove God.  So until a method comes up.  Keep to yourself and your beliefs is all I and millions others ask.
Why don't you have a talk with your Mom and ask her when she was carrying you?

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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #558 on: February 16, 2021, 06:53:38 PM »
Science differs with your viewpoint.

You -- of all people -- should never be the litmus test for what's legal, moral or ethical.

I'm not the one committing murder.  The burden is on you for pushing a false narrative that sentience is unknowable and should therefore be ignored -- even though that's the primary factor YOU SAID needs to be considered.

You created a catch-22, then decided the default answer should be abortion.

This simply doesn't work like that. Why does your opinion get to be default?  By definition you put the burden of your beliefs on others.  Lets say Christians and Muslims believe sex before marriage is bad.  Can they ban everyone from having sex before marriage?  No, they can follow their own customs and don't force legality, morality or ethics upon others.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2021, 06:59:25 PM by omnigun »

macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #559 on: February 16, 2021, 06:55:03 PM »
Why don't you have a talk with your Mom and ask her when she was carrying you?

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it hasn't been proven in a court of law that omnigrub is sentient...